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Jeez, Marx, I can understand why you'd be furious about that. It would be hard to forgive such a thing. It probably really hurt because it wasn't a stranger who basically threw you and the kids to the wolves- it was someone who was supposed to love you enough to stand by your side and protect you and the family. You deserve someone to love, honor, and respect you.

I guess the reason I'm pulling away from my friend right now is because I really care and I can't stand to see him set himself up for more harm/misery after seeing and experiencing with him what he's already been through. I know I should probably be there for him, and I was there, right up until the time (today) when he said this girl is actually at his house. I just can't fathom it after all that's transpired and after all we talked about. There's nothing I can do now to stop whatever might be the consequences of the choice he just made.

Knowing me, when he needs to talk about it (and I imagine he will at some point), I'll be here, as I always am. That's what friends are for. As irritated and concerned as I am, I'm really not entirely heartless.

Quick question.
Is your friend even aware of the number of females who lie for profit?

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Quick question.
Is your friend even aware of the number of females who lie for profit?

You mean feminism? Yes. And he's not a feminism supporter.

Also, I have talked to him about women who (though they may not necessarily be "feminists")- lie for profit, or lie for attention, or lie for alibis, and lie because they are mentally ill. He knows. And this is not his first time at the rodeo. He's 47. He's been duped before and if he doesn't start learning from his experiences, I guess he's likely to be duped again!

Tera,

Does your friend have a good lawyer? That is the first step in the process and there are layers who specialize in theses things. You are absolutely right in protesting your friends choice of actions as to having this woman over at his place that is a HUGE mistake.
Liars never change and inviting them into your life after they have tried to destoy it is always a ver bad decision. I pray for your friend.

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Tera,

Does your friend have a good lawyer? That is the first step in the process and there are layers who specialize in theses things. You are absolutely right in protesting your friends choice of actions as to having this woman over at his place that is a HUGE mistake.
Liars never change and inviting them into your life after they have tried to destoy it is always a ver bad decision. I pray for your friend.

Thanks, Rohara. He does have a lawyer and he's spent lots of money on getting legal advice for lawsuits that he never actually follows through on. I don't know how good the lawyer is. He does need a few prayers. He has a history of being conned by so many....not just women, but by men, too. Even family. He just got done paying off (and this took three years) about $30,000 in loans that two of his brothers manipulated him into (and they never paid him back a single dime. In fact, they won't even speak to him!) He's been conned into major purchases by super-slick salesman, too...over the last three years I've known him he's bought three used cars that were total lemons. None of them run. All had major engine problems. He's not a dumb guy- he's actually really smart but he's very trusting. Too trusting. Stuff keeps happening and then he wonders how he gets into these messes. I've tried to be a good friend and warn him (about the loans before he made them- his brothers have a history of conning him with lesser things, and about the cars- about the women)- and though he comes to me for advice he never actually listens to any of it. I don't know why he asks!

I'm going to stop giving advice even when he asks me for it. It's an odd thing, really. He'll ask for my opinion, ask for advice, but if I point something out that he doesn't want to hear, he gets mad. So, I'm done with that now. I'll be telling him he really doesn't need my advice and to use his own best judgment if he ever asks me again.

If you have Sex with a Drunken Woman... You are an idiot. In many States she cannot legally give Consent. So that means You have Raped her. That is the case in Maine. It is automatic Rape. Are we paying attention??? I cannot believe in 2009 that Men are just this stupid. And yes this is stupidity. Stop listening to Women. Pay Attention to what the Laws are.

We are for example in a Mancession. Where Four of Five jobs lost are Men. Yet the majority male populace is still not paying attention. When you are broke, hungry and homeless whose fault is it? I dare say it is time to stop paying attention to Sports and pay attention to your life and your future.

I have only known two females who ever cried "rape" and, fortunately, I was not involved. One later admitted to fabricating the charge because a child was the result and she wanted child support. The other never pressed charges because she admitted to seducing the man while they were both drunk. Neither one was honest at the time of claiming "rape." The one STILL collects child support even after costing the guy $100,000 in defense attorney fees AND a DNA test proved the kid was not his... no apologies.

Try and convince me the family courts are not biased against men. Then try to explain why feminsts are not all about equality in this respect. No need, we already know what feminists are. Excrement.

I've tried to be a good friend and warn him (about the loans before he made them- his brothers have a history of conning him with lesser things, and about the cars- about the women)- and though he comes to me for advice he never actually listens to any of it. I don't know why he asks!

I'm going to stop giving advice even when he asks me for it. It's an odd thing, really. He'll ask for my opinion, ask for advice, but if I point something out that he doesn't want to hear, he gets mad. Tera

He isn't a friend, as friends don't get mad at you (well, except for me ).

So he must be a client. Charge him $150 next time. It sounds like he will pay !

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He's not a dumb guy- he's actually really smart but he's very trusting. Too trusting. Stuff keeps happening and then he wonders how he gets into these messes. I've tried to be a good friend and warn him (about the loans before he made them- his brothers have a history of conning him with lesser things, and about the cars- about the women)- and though he comes to me for advice he never actually listens to any of it. I don't know why he asks!

I have known people like your friend, and also tried to warn them to not be so trusting. It is really sad and frustrating to try to warn them of trusting again and again on same people, who have fooled them many times before. But it´s allways like "he / she is not like that! He / she is really a nice..."

Crazier still, he emails me today and says his nephew has a date with this woman. She's up here (in the U.S.) from Canada right now- at my friend's house. And he wants to come here, to my house, because he doesn't want to be around her. (Well duh.) But why he let her into his home (granted to see the nephew who lives there to) is beyond me. Again, I think he's nuts. They're all nuts.

That might be very risky. The girl seems to be quite unpredictable, and seems not think or care much about the concequences of her actions. Even if she tell's the truth, and she didn't start this thing on purpose, dealing with her is risky.

A local businesman got accused (falsely) of rape about two years ago. Fortunately his house had security cameras recording. Seems that soon we all need some security cameras.

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If you have Sex with a Drunken Woman... You are an idiot. In many States she cannot legally give Consent. So that means You have Raped her. That is the case in Maine. It is automatic Rape. Are we paying attention??? I cannot believe in 2009 that Men are just this stupid. And yes this is stupidity. Stop listening to Women. Pay Attention to what the Laws are.

We are for example in a Mancession. Where Four of Five jobs lost are Men. Yet the majority male populace is still not paying attention. When you are broke, hungry and homeless whose fault is it? I dare say it is time to stop paying attention to Sports and pay attention to your life and your future.

Sound advice!

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I have known people like your friend, and also tried to warn them to not be so trusting. It is really sad and frustrating to try to warn them of trusting again and again on same people, who have fooled them many times before. But it´s allways like "he / she is not like that! He / she is really a nice..."

That might be very risky. The girl seems to be quite unpredictable, and seems not think or care much about the concequences of her actions. Even if she tell's the truth, and she didn't start this thing on purpose, dealing with her is risky.

A local businesman got accused (falsely) of rape about two years ago. Fortunately his house had security cameras recording. Seems that soon we all need some security cameras.

Security cameras are not such a bad idea. But be careful where you put them! I read a story about a man who got into trouble for having a camera in his bedroom that recorded happenings in his bed (while the woman he was intimate with was unaware of being recorded.) I can't remember the outcome of that case but I don't think it went well for the man.

You're right...my friend is taking risks that he probably really shouldn't take. The girl might be telling the truth (from the facts it just doesn't seem likely)- but you're right, she sounds unpredictable.