I am not too sure about low birth rates meaning, "The father's role is less".

But I don't want to argue the point over "history and children". Yet...

Fathers were not in control. Children have always been just as much a "thing" as men and women were.

Breed children for your religion. Breed children for your country needs soldiers. Breed, breed , breed. Breed for labourers. Breed for the family name.

Do men only think of children? I don't think so. Is marriage only about breeding? I don't think so.

But what is worth fighting in my opinion is this ....

The value of life.

This all comes under euthanasia. They want to allow a months time to determine whether a baby should live or die. Abortions OK, killing a weak baby OK.

They want us to be like animals and kill the weak.

Related article.

Why apes human rights are important.

http://tinyurl.com/5n3rv3

Look at the reasoning behind the resolution. It is to bring humans down to the level of animals and plants. In fact, some animals will have higher status that humans.

Don't forget that feminism from the 70's is a sexual revolution. To make us into nothing more than sexual beings means to make us equal to other animals.

Just want to say...

I don't think either the past or the future look good.

The destruction of the family (Gramsci) is a Marxist project and feminism (suffragettes) hooked onto it OR is derived from it.
Maybe they simply joined forces because they had so much in common. :yuck:

The difference is academical and we should fight both whenever we can. Surely we should not fight among ourselves over this.

Let's have another round of beer and talk about what can be done.

"AS children become the apostles of the state we will encounter a future much like that of Orwell’s 1984, where parents are afraid of their children in case they report them to the thought police."

my son came home a few years ago whilst still in elementary school and told me that his teacher had advised him that I could not smack his bottom

... a mother was charged with abusing her pre pubescent daughter whilst in the Mall by virtue of smacking the little girls bum with her hand during a shopping trip for naughtiness

these Pinkos mean business it seems

all normal child raising techniques will be criminalised by and by

Julie, I wonder if I shall say sorry, but decide not to.

It is none of my doing, or that of other men, that you have been born a woman, so it is also not my responsibility.

Regarding homo sapiens as apes might be much closer to reality, than is probably realised by many leftists or feminists.

The search for the missing link between humans and their predecessors has until now been unsuccessful.
There might be a reason for that!

The reason could be that the difference between humans and protohumans (apes) isn't so much genetical and/or biological. Instead the difference could base itself on development of softer tissues (which leave little trace) and culture (which is even harder to trace further than the advent of scriptural language).

We have, though, antropological evidence of societies based on groups of men ruling certain areas and building civilisations there. As well as antropological evidence of rites among bands of brothers (Höffler; Männerbünde). This suggesting that civilised society, as we know it, simply is man made.

This again leads to the idea that Mankind IS Men. That is was males who organised early proto-societies and by sharing available women actually took Homo Sapiens a step further in evolution.

If this 'theory' is right then there is no need for females to develop to fit in. They can keep their original animalistics traits and ways of behavior because the existence of society is based on male behavior only.
We actually see these female traits in action in our present form of 'society' where women shop (gather roots and fruits) fight for access to some alpha-male and do not care for their own children after they have passed the toddler stage, so they let them roam around and not interphere with the womans ability to again attract another alpha-male.

It will take a big effort to deliver the scientific proof for this 'theory', but the essence of it is based present scientific discoveries which can be found in various palces on the internet.

We will probably see more about this way of understanding of MANkind in the future.

So, to You Julie!

Welcome among the Apes!

And I know - "Not all women are like that . . . !"

It is neat to be able to understand more these days.

I am not sure how long you have been reading this site before you posted (if you did so) but I wonder if you may have missed this OR NOT.

It is just something I found that may be of interest.

The war behind the war - feminism and humanism

I like being a woman. Very much.

Nice one!!!

The planet of the apes??? hehehe

But what is this?


Can you please enlighten me to new discovery?

Ragnar said:
We have, though, anthropological evidence of societies based on groups of men ruling certain areas and building civilisations there. As well as anthropological evidence of rites among bands of brothers (Höffler; Männerbünde). This suggesting that civilised society, as we know it, simply is man made.

Yes. Men working together is the essence of human civilization. Males competing with each over resources is just the same old animal system, a dissipation of energy and intelligence.

I think feminists understand this, and fear our power, especially when harnessed together.

There is no discovery and there is no missing link.

The evolution into Mankind was a step taken by men only.
It's a cultural one; i.e. some change in male software/brains. Men discovered the immense power of joining forces and build successful societies.

Women are not part of it - thus no common ancestor will ever be declared the 'Missing Link' between humans and apes.

We see the indications of this all around us in the western world!

I don't understand?

I can only hope you are not one of these chauvinists?

But I am happy to learn none the less.

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