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    Suicide

    Suicide rates per 100 000 by country, year and sex (Table, WHO, 2005)

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    Originally Posted by [url=http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2004/pr61/en/
    World Suicide Prevention Day[/url] (10 September 2004)]With the exception of rural China, more men than women commit suicide, although in most places more women than men attempt suicide.
    Historical (and estimated future) perspective (from SUPRE: WHO's action for prevention of suicide):


    And now... Behold how much WHO is concerned about much higher suicide rates (according to WHO's own statistics - even in the future) of men:

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    Suicide prevention and special programmes[/url]]Suicide prevention and special programmes
    - Suicide prevention
    - Child and adolescent mental health
    - Gender and women's mental health



     
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    Suicide

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    WHO:Distribution of suicide rates by gender and age


     
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    Suicide

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    National Center for Injury Prevention and Control[/url]: Suicide: Fact Sheet]Groups At Risk

    Males

    * Suicide is the eighth leading cause of death for all U.S. men (Anderson and Smith 2003).
    * Males are four times more likely to die from suicide than females (CDC 2004).
    * Suicide rates are highest among Whites and second highest among American Indian and Native Alaskan men (CDC 2004).
    * Of the 24,672 suicide deaths reported among men in 2001, 60% involved the use of a firearm (Anderson and Smith 2003).

    Females


    * Women report attempting suicide during their lifetime about three times as often as men (Krug et al. 2002).


     
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    suicide: Kiwi New Zealand...

    This relates to New Zealand. Thanks to expat for this article.

    Suicide
    Definition

    The number of suicide deaths per 100,000 population.
    Relevance

    Suicide is an indicator of the mental health and social wellbeing of society and a major cause of injury-related death in the population.
    Current level and trends

    In 2002, 460 people died by suicide, a decline from 507 in 2001.18 The age-standardised19 suicide death rate was 10.7 per 100,000 in 2002, compared with 12.0 per 100,000 in 2001. Over the 1980s and 1990s there was an upward trend in the suicide death rate, which reached a peak of 14.3 per 100,000 in 1998. Since then the rate has fallen by 25 percent and the 2002 rate was below the 1986 rate of 11.5 per 100,000.
    Figure H3.1 Age-standardised suicide death rate, by sex, 1986–2002

    Source: Ministry of Health, New Zealand Health Information Service
    Notes: [1] 2001 and 2002 figures are provisional [2] Age-standardised to SegiÂ’s world population


    Sex differences

    Males have a much higher rate of death by suicide than females, with 16.6 deaths per 100,000 males in 2002, compared with 5.2 deaths per 100,000 females. One of the major factors in the higher male suicide rate is choice of methods.20 The male suicide rate increased sharply in the late 1980s, declined after 1998, and in 2002 was just below the 1986 rate of 17 deaths per 100,000 males. In comparison, the female rate has been relatively stable, apart from a slight increase during 1996–1999 and a fall in the rate in 2000. Because of the small numbers involved, it is more reliable to consider the trend over several years.

    While males account for the most suicide deaths (76 percent in 2002), females account for the majority of recorded suicide attempts (66 percent in 2001/2002).

    Age differences

    People aged 25–34 years had the highest suicide death rate for 10-year age groups in 2002 (19.6 per 100,000, or 107 deaths), followed by people aged 15–24 years (17.0 per 100,000, with 94 deaths). For many decades, the rate of suicide was consistently highest at ages 65 and over but this changed in the late 1980s during a steep increase in youth suicide. The youth suicide rate peaked at 28.7 per 100,000 in 1995 and has fallen by 41 percent since then, but is still higher than the 1986 rate of 15.6 per 100,000. The pattern is similar for 25–34 year olds. Suicide rates have been falling among people over 45 years. These age patterns may reflect, in part, cohort effects.

    Figure H3.2 Suicide death rates, by age, 1985–1987 to 2000–2002

    Source: Ministry of Health, New Zealand Health Information Service
    Notes: [1] Three-year average rates for 10-year age groups calculated by the Ministry of Social Development [2] 2001 and 2002 figures are provisional


    Ethnic differences

    In 2002, there were 78 Māori deaths from suicide, accounting for 17 percent of all suicides in that year. The age-standardised rate of suicide death was 12.6 per 100,000 for Māori, compared to 10.1 for non-Māori. The suicide rate for Māori youth in 2002 was 31.2 per 100,000, compared with the non-Māori rate of 13.7 per 100,000. Suicide deaths for both Māori and non-Māori were lower in 2000–2002 than in 1997–1999. Because of small numbers, trends in Māori suicide rates should be treated with caution.

    Table H3.1 Age-standardised suicide rates and number of suicide deaths, Māori and non-Māori, 1996–2002

    Source: Ministry of . Health, New Zealand Health Information Service
    Notes: [1] 2001 and 2002 figures are provisional and the 2001 figures for non-Māori have been revised [2] Age-standardised to SegiÂ’s world population


    International comparison

    A comparison of age-standardised suicide rates in 13 OECD countries for the years 1999–2002 shows that New Zealand’s rate was the sixth worst for both males (16.4 per 100,000) and females (5.2 per 100,000).21 Finland had the worst male suicide rate (26.5 per 100,000 in 2002), while Japan had the worst female rate (8.8 per 100,000 in 2000). Australia (17.5) had a slightly higher rate of male suicide than New Zealand, while Canada (15.6) and the United States (14.6) had slightly lower rates. The United Kingdom (9.9) fared considerably better. In regards to females, Australia and Canada (each 4.5), the United States (3.4) and the United Kingdom (2.6) all reported better results than New Zealand.

    Comparing youth suicide rates in the same 13 OECD countries, New Zealand had the third worst male youth suicide rate, after Finland and Ireland, and the worst female youth suicide rate. New Zealand is one of a small number of countries which have higher suicide rates at the younger ages.



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    Re: Suicide

    Thanks for that LG.......it is staggering it is a hidden holocaust.
    I have not done a poll before could we do one on this?
    Thinking of the question ...

    Is state and media feminism to blame for this mass suicide of men?
    YES

    NO

    Partly there are other factors.



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    Re: Suicide

    Billy you and I think are agreed the human race is fallen and has
    a bias towards evil sadly.We knew men were capable of evil and selfishness. We now have a fuller understanding that women are also fallen.They are not morally superior which is what we have been fed via movies and feminism .Early feminists felt morally superior.Noone is morally superior.All fall short and are wanting
    Realism is here,we all have to face it.The world is due an appointment with reality any day now.You reap what you sow.The world will now learn
    that evil brings more evil.The price for all this is a catastophe,natural or man made.Then God willing we start over.



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    I guess what ya'all dont understand is that suicide affects women more than men (just like war and every other issue since women dont really care about anyone but themselves?)......

    While the men might be DEAD, the poor woman has to do her nails and make herself look nice for the funeral.......see how the Patriarchy puts women down.....


     
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    Re: Suicide

    I'm not sure if this is the same research Rebadow was citing:

    The Value of Male Lives
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    February 5, 2008


    It's really irritating to me when I see: research, information, media articles, prevention, etc., concerning suicides, and find no mention within these writings of the well established fact that men commit more suicides than women - usually at alarming rates.
    I have written about this in the past when I've come across it, and I've have come across it again.

    A research study from Harvard University and the World Health Organization (WHO) was released showing the discovery of consistent factors related to global suicide risk. I expected to find quality information that I could use concerning suicide risks in relation to the epidemic of male suicides experienced throughout industrialized nations.

    Shame on me for being so naïve.

    In their research, these two well respected and influencial organizations have determined these traits to be consistent with suicide risk:

    -- younger age
    -- fewer years of education
    -- unmarried status and the presence of a mental disorder.
    -- Additionally, the risk of suicidal thoughts increased sharply during adolescence and young adulthood in every country studied.

    And the last factor consistent with high risk of suicide - being FEMALE.

    I could not believe what I was reading. All the statistics I have come across show men commit suicide at much greater rates than females in most western countries. Here is some of the statistics from the U.S. and other countries:

    -- In the interval from 1979 to 1996 there were a total of 535,890 deaths in the U.S.A. that were diagnosed and reported to have been suicides. Of these suicide victims, 421,991 were boys and men, and 113,899 were girls and women.
    There was not one single age group in any year in which boys or men committing suicide did not exceed by far the numbers of girls or women who killed themselves.
    The number of male suicide victims rose in virtually every year during the eighteen-year 1979 - 1996 interval, whereas the number of female victims of suicide was generally on the decline in virtually every year.

    -- In the UK and Ireland, males account for 75% of all suicides.

    -- In Australia, 350 (81 percent) of suicide deaths were males, and 84 (19 percent) were females for the year 1995. Since then, an aggressive campaigned to address the alarming suicide rates for males have led to a sizable decrease.

    As matter of fact, looking at statistics for world wide suicide rates between men and women across all age groups, not one country shows female suicides outnumbering male suicides.

    I have felt for a long time now that the foundation of men's issues resides in the fact that society perceives men's lives as having less value than women's lives. This study, and many others like them, validates this perception.

    Men and their issues face a much greater battle for awareness and the ability to be labeled a "crisis" or "epidemic". Meanwhile, any issue facing women and young girls is automatically elevated to crisis or epidemic status without question. If the genders were reversed, one can guarantee that international media, researchers, and organizations would be launching vigorous and aggressive campaigns to abolish this "terrifying epidemic". But since the victims are male, the epidemic status is dropped, and male suicides become just another social problem pushed down towards the bottom of society's priority list.

    The only way to stop this type of flagrant discrimination is to speak up. Whether it is through protests, letter writing, or traditional word of mouth. Men's issues will only receive the attention they deserve if society is forced to take notice.

    Paraphrasing Warren Farrell, "People will never hear what you are not telling them."


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    Re: Suicide

    From the article JJ is referencing:

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    Risk factors for suicidal thoughts, plans and attempts are consistent across countries, and include having a mental disorder and being female, younger, less educated, and unmarried. So says new research from a Harvard University professor and the World Health Organization (WHO) World Mental Health Survey Initiative.

    The article is talking about suicide attempts, not suicide itself. The heading of the original article is misleading, though, and it is astonishing that no mention is made of the higher number of successfully completed suicides for men.



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    Thanks for that LG.......it is staggering it is a hidden holocaust.
    I have not done a poll before could we do one on this?
    Thinking of the question ...

    Is state and media feminism to blame for this mass suicide of men?
    YES

    A very large percentage of suicides in the US are done by men after feminism has destroyed his family and emptied his purse. He has nothing to live for but another 20 years of indentured servitude (slavery).

    Another very large percentage of suicides is by young men growing up without their fathers. Again, feminism is to blame.

    The suicide statistics don't count all the men who are driven to engage in gang wars and other totally destructive behavior becasue feminism has destroyed their families and their normal lives.

    Overall, feminsm is probably responsible for the suicide death of one man every 20 minutes in the United States.

    Some say that driving a man to suicide is a worse crime than just killing him because he sufferes for weaks and months before the end.

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    The article is talking about suicide attempts, not suicide itself. The heading of the original article is misleading, though, and it is astonishing that no mention is made of the higher number of successfully completed suicides for men.

    Agreed. Completely misleading, and disheartening in its "disappearing" of male victims.



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    I'm really surprised that the suicide rates here in the United Kingdom are as low as they are as shown in this table of statistics - one of the lowest in most of the Western countries anyway, it seems! 10.8 male and 3.3 female. We must be a much happier lot than I thought! I suppose it may be because we can always go down the pub to cheer up - a pint or two, a laugh with the lads, a game or two of darts, then a nice chicken tikka masala hot curry before going home ....and on the way texting the gf to tell her that she's history and that I can't stomach her crap behaviour and attitude any longer and that I am not as minted as she likes to believe.


     
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    Re: Suicide

    Spot on... Oddly enough, I was talking today to a college friend and we talked a little about the culture differences between America and England (he has experience with American Women too). We concluded, though admitedly based on a small sample of our experiences, that Americans tend to need a therapist for every little problem they encounter while British drop into the pub, moan for a bit, have a laugh - and get on with life...



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    I guess what ya'all dont understand is that suicide affects women more than men (just like war and every other issue since women dont really care about anyone but themselves?)......

    While the men might be DEAD, the poor woman has to do her nails and make herself look nice for the funeral.......see how the Patriarchy puts women down.....
    They always have said that during both world wars it was a clear case of women suffering far more than the men did - it was the women who had to cope with food shortages, rationing of everything, dangers from being out in the blackout, dangers from bombing raids - and the dangers posed by over sexed, over paid and "over here" American servicemen.....

    The fact that men were dying in their hundreds of thousands in the hellholes of battle fields all over the world, not to mention sharing the dangers from bombing raids and food rationing and all the other crap suffered by all the "poor women" here in the UK itself.......well, all that was totally irrelevant, wasn't it?

    If anything makes me really mad is when women bleat out stupid things like "If women ruled the world there would be no wars or conflicts - all would be peace and light and harmony....."

    If you believe that then you will believe that the moon is made up entirely of gorgonzola.

    Throughout history female rulers have consistently sent thousands of MEN to their deaths in battles, from Queen Boudicca all the way down through history to Margaret Thatcher, and as may well be the case if some kind of insanity prevails in the USA.....so will President Hillary Clinton, whatever she says in her manifesto.........


     
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    Re: Suicide

    Here's another piece published this week:


    The silent epidemic of male suicide
    By Dan Bell
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    4 February 2008


    Whatever the individual reasons that drive people to suicide, the one thing that puts you most at risk is being a man under the age of 35.

    Of the 13 people who killed themselves in South Wales over the past year, all but one were men aged under 27.

    John Hogan, the father who threw himself off a hotel balcony in Greece, was aged 32. When his two brothers Stephen and Paul killed themselves, they were aged 17 and 35.

    Suicide is the second most common way for a man between the ages of 15 and 34 to die. It is outstripped, only just, by road deaths.

    Suicide 'epidemic'

    About 900 young men take their own lives each year, and they account for about 75% of all suicides in this age group.

    "You've had what is effectively an epidemic of young male suicide," says the National Director for Mental Health in England, Professor Louis Appleby. Between 1970 and 1998, the rate more than doubled. At its peak, five men were dying for every woman.

    Yet according to Prof Appleby, less than 20% of young men who commit suicide have had any contact with either their GP or mental health services in the previous year. Quite simply, he says, "they don't seek help when they have problems."

    If suicide is the second most serious public health issue for young men, why don't we know about it?

    According to Jane Powell, coordinator of the Campaign Against Living Miserably (CALM), the only national organisation that specifically reaches out to young men at risk of suicide, it is because no-one wants to know.

    With endless headlines about Asbos, knife crime and guns, she says, "It's just a very tricky thought that young men might need care and attention, because they are very often seen as the cause of the problems."

    In 2002 the National Institute for Mental Health in England (NIHME) launched the first National Suicide Prevention Strategy (NSPS). Its goal is to bring about a 20% reduction in suicides by 2010, and young male suicide is touted as top of the agenda.

    One of the first tasks of the NSPS was a review of studies on what works and what does not when it comes to preventing young men from killing themselves.

    "Historically it has not been the top of people's agendas," says Angela Harden, co-author of the report.

    The NSPS discovered that not only are young men less likely to seek help, they also need a different kind of help. "[Young men] often don't conceptualise their problems as problems of a medical kind," says Prof Louis Appleby.

    "I don't think we can expect young men's suicide rates to come down dramatically just by providing mental health services. There has to be a partnership with agencies that men go to and trust."

    The NSPS has taken some important steps, and the number of male suicides has recently shown a steady decline.

    The prison service is introducing anti-ligature furniture to prisons across the country, and there has been a significant fall in in-patient suicides due to the removal of non-collapsible curtain and shower rails from psychiatric wards.

    Jane Powell says removing the means by which men kill themselves is only a plaster on the wound. The real question is why so few men seek help in the first place.

    A huge factor is the pressure on men not to show any weakness, she believes.

    "The one thing that they are supposed to still be is strong and silent," she says, "and if you are going to be silent, then of course you are not going to take any action over the problems that face you, and if that's the case it's just going to get worse."

    According to Dan Kindlon, a Harvard lecturer, and co-author of Raising Cain: Protecting the Emotional Life of Boys, young men don't ask for help because we don't allow them to.

    Even from early childhood the emotional 'steering' that boys and girls get is different.

    Parents encourage boys more than girls to 'tough it out' if they fall over, or suffer a disappointment, he says, and they unconsciously encourage emotional conversations with their daughters, but discourage them with their sons.

    By the time he reaches school, these patterns have not only become more entrenched, but more brutal as well. "In school a boy who shows a more effeminate side, or cries, or expresses his feelings, he's open to a lot of ridicule and teasing," says Kindlon. "Especially at these vulnerable ages when we see a lot of suicides."

    Alone and adrift

    And it's a vicious circle: the less a young man shows his feelings, the less anyone sees he has any. "Because boys have been taught to not show their emotion," says Kindlon, "too often we don't know there is a problem until they do something that is fatal, and people need to do more to notice sooner."

    There are two main groups of young men who kill themselves, says Professor Appleby. There are those with severe mental illness, and those who are defined by "a set of social facts that mean they have lost their ties to society, work, family and friends." In other words, they have come adrift in their own lives.

    All of this resonates with a fact about suicide that was discovered over a hundred years ago by the founding father of sociology, Emile Durkheim.

    Durkheim established that the rate of suicide in different countries remained stable over time, and at different levels, despite the fact that it was different people killing themselves for different reasons.

    His conclusion was, that it wasn't the overall degree of despair in society that determined its suicide rate, but how effective the society was in creating ties between the people within it.

    With this in mind, it is worth mentioning another two statistics: men make up 73% of people who go missing each year, and 85% of people who sleep rough.

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