For Men Marriage Is A Lose/Lose Prospect
This is a discussion on For Men Marriage Is A Lose/Lose Prospect within the Facts and Figures forums, part of the General category; For Men Marriage Is A Lose/Lose Prospect Wednesday, January 30, 2008 Posted by reality2007 at 4:48 PM For Men Marriage ...
| |||||||
| ►Link to us◄ | Register | FAQ | Members List | Search | Today's Posts | Mark Forums Read |
          
3rd-February-2008
| ||||
| ||||
For Men Marriage Is A Lose/Lose Prospect Wednesday, January 30, 2008 Posted by reality2007 at 4:48 PM Hey guys, thinking about getting married?  "I feel so.......... gay." Uh... there's just a few facts you need know about. First of all… 50% of all marriages end in divorce and 70% of divorces are filed by women.  If your car was as reliable as marriage, every time you got in it you would have a one in two chance of crashing. But let’s not beat around the bush here.. let’s rephrase that.. if your car “was as reliable as a woman…” because women file the vast majority of divorces.  So why do women flake out so easily?  To begin to understand what is going on, one needs to pull back and look at the larger picture. Today’s American woman is already mentally and spiritually divorced from men before they ever marry. Women today are not only sociologically and culturally divorced from men, but from society and reality as well.  Like the KKK, the mentally ill hate movement that is Feminism was and still is the cancer of American society and the divisive wedge that continues to destroy the partnership of men and women. Having been manipulated and completely duped, American women today now live in a bizarre, dysfunctional world of their of their own with their own separate values, culture, and twisted morals alien to nature, God and men.     A self-righteous, perverse and trashy ‘up is down’ world that is hopelessly amoral & mentally ill, pathologically obsessed with celebrity gossip, appearance, pettiness, perfectionism, vindictiveness, entitlement, abortion and victim hood. This culture also shuns all responsibility and accountability as ‘oppressive’ to women. The original Feminists preached that men and society were oppressive to women. Like a Trojan horse, Feminism started out nobly and innocent, promising more 'choices' and 'rights' for women. What it has now disentegrated into is 'freedom' for women from any and all responsiblity and accountability, God, society and family itself. Now anything is ‘oppressive’ to women, especially responsibilities or any accountability. Women today expect everything and are unwilling to give nothing in return and are now zeroes as human beings and are worthless. How ironic that Feminism was meant to improve women. This is what happens when you demand respect. Respect is something you earn not demand. To learn more on the state of the American Female read 'The Garbage Generation' or 'The Cultural Devastation of American Women: The Strange and Frightening Decline of the American Female.' ~Original Feminists~    The anti-family agenda of Feminism was successful beyond the original architects’ wildest dreams, having managed to brainwash an entire generation of women into hating men and shunning family.  Now, because of this and several other factors, women no longer put any effort that actually matters into making a marriage work, having lost all respect for men. When thinking of marriage, women today just fantasize of wedding decorations.  If you ask any marriage counselor off the record, they will tell you that the real problem with marriage today is with women.  You see, the biggest factor is that feminism also successfully legally forced American businesses to accept women through covert legislation over the last 20 years, so now the majority of women receive a payroll check* just like a man. OFFICIAL DAYCARE FOR ADULT WOMEN  *this is the definition of work for women whenever they bother to even stop by, but still receive a check What this did was create a social, cultural, & economic atmosphere wherein women are no longer financially dependent on men as they once used to be. Financial independence was an integral part of the institution of marriage in the past.  The typical instant knee jerk reaction by women to this relatively new situation is the 6th grade level mentality of the “na, na na na, ha ha, we don’t need men anymore, we’re independent!”  But there’s a couple of problems here. First of all, most women still want to marry at some point in their life time, but 90% of all women still only want to marry ‘up,’ as in the traditional sense; as in they will only marry a man who earns more than they do, a cherry-picked traditional aspect of marriage women still want to retain. This is called having your cake and eating his too.  That’s right, fellas.. if you work here..  This...  ... isn't in your future. It's that cut and dried. So much for the more 'compassionate' gender myth, huh? Only problem is that now there simply are not that many men left who earn more than women. Women have diluted the workplace by overcrowding it with their dead, non-productive weight.  Women will tell you, “I don’t need a man to pay my way.. I make my own money.” This statement is only half true, like anything else a woman says. Never listen to what a woman tells you, pay attention to what she does. Yes, women ‘earn’ (wink-wink) their own money now, but the very reason women still want a man who earns more than they do is to make him pay… for the house...  ...the vehicles, and all the rest of the basic necessities…  So she can spend all of her money on frivolous crap like expensive clothes and purses…  …expensive restaurants daily just for lunch…  ...spas...  ...and expensive vacations...  Of course you, as hubby, are 'supposed’ to shut up and justwork yourself to death to enable all of this for her. This is all still just simply expected from you as the man without question...  …another cherry picked leftover from traditional marriage gender roles. But while this is what every woman really wants, not every woman gets it. Because there are only so many men around to provide this because the workplace is overcrowded… remember?  So then she’s left, like at least half of all women, to marry the guy who makes just as much as her or a little more than she does. So now she has to ‘work’ (wink-wink) as well just to make ends meet. And why is it so hard to 'make it' financially nowadays?  Fun fact: Because of women entering the workplace en masse in the 1980’s, the price of homes and vehicles EXPLODED. Why? Because people could charge more for homes and vehicles because working women created the dual income household. No one is going is going to ask 200K for a home if no one can afford it. So now women are forced to work, whether they want to or not, victims of the economy they created.  A man with a moderate salary even by the standards of the times could afford to buy a house, raise a large family all on his own without his wife having to work before Feminism. Feeling pretty stupid yet, ladies? You should be. So now the wife has to work, and naturally this puts a strain on the marriage. Then one day comes the famous mantra screamed in an average of 20,000 homes daily… everybody join in & repeat after Ms. Entitlement Princess…  “A real man would earn enough so his wife wouldn’t have to work, you worthless piece of shit!!!” Of course it’s not his fault, but circumstances far outside of his control, i.e., women crowding the workplace, driving down wages, dual incomes driving up prices, etc. When the ‘real man’ speech comes, it’s pretty much all down hill from here and she’ll be filing for a divorce and heading back to live with mom.  … and pack her things in a good mood. Women are just that cold & self-righteous. If a man makes far less than his wife, statistically 9 in 10 of those marriages last less than a year.  Of course the mind numbing irony of all this is how women accuse men of being ‘superficial’ because they want an attractive woman…  …but this doesn’t even hold a candle to women’s insane superficiality of only marrying ‘up’ financially and basing success and happiness on shallow materialism.  (that’s right, the worst of both worlds.. all the horrors of Feminism AND all the worst aspects of the old world rolled into one!) On top of all of that, when was the last time you ever heard any women ever say…  "Hey, we’re just looking for some mediocre looking guys.” Of course men and women both want an attractive spouse, so this claim is nothing more than a house of cards. The real truth that women hate is the fact that the women of today really don’t have anything more to offer a man besides their looks and/or body. This is where the real hostility is coming from, yet it is men who suffer from this situation in addition to all the rest of the marriage nightmares. Take a look at the 21st century female…   …she is always in ‘fight’ mode, constantly looking for a confrontation, especially with a man, and she has about TEN TIMES more energy than you because she’s either been sitting home all day doing nothing but thinking of things to complain about or she’s been at her 'job' doing nothing all day. Now you have to come home to this after working all day. Of course all of this confrontation is completely unnecessary, and that is the saddest, most pathetic aspect of it all because this kills so many marriages today.  This all stems from this notion women have today that they need to be ‘assertive,’ like a man to get ahead. But unlike men, women never know when to turn it off. For some reason women do not possess the intelligence to know when it is appropriate to be assertive, and whenever it is the appropriate time, women do not possess the wisdom or intelligence (at any age) to use rationale with assertion, so they just come across like a jackhammer.  Women today will fight you over anything, nothing is too trivial. Today’s woman is also nauseatingly smug, with a pathologically false sense of superiority that is far, far beyond annoying… it’s hysterically funny.  Like cats, women today strut and carry themselves as if their royalty, so completely self absorbed that they are oblivious to the fact that everyone else is really laughing at them because they can see they’re nothing more than a worthless, diseased alley cat, as unnecessary as yesterday’s newspaper…  Yes, today’s woman is anything but ‘superior’ in any possible way. 21st century females are amoral…  …venerally diseased…  …blatant gold diggers…  … cold as a razor blade…  ...in a word...  Monsters With today’s female, after sex what is there to even talk about?  What can a man possibly learn from today’s woman? How to be a bitch?  Remember our guy who’s wife left him to go live with mom because he isn’t a ‘real man’ & a ‘piece of shit?’  He was actually very, very lucky. They were young, renting a crappy apartment and didn’t have any children, so there was nothing for her to gain in the divorce, so she just left.  But when there’s a house and children involved, we now step into an entirely new, ‘up is down’ nightmare world. Yes, welcome to the world of female marriage/divorce… …fraud industry.   Meet Gary Lewis. Gary has it all. Gary is the luckiest man alive, with a sweet, loving wife he’s married to for six years, with two great kids, a new home, great job… he’s the alpha male with the alpha family & the envy of so many men. He doesn’t drink, is faithful to his wife, a great father and good provider. One day Gary walked in the door from work to this.  In a state of shock, he immediately calls his wife cell.. no answer. He calls his mother-in-law.. no answer. Suddenly there’s a knock at the door. It’s a constable and he’s there to serve him papers.  His wife has filed for a divorce and he also served a restraining order instructing him to not call or come within a certain distance of his wife or his children. He is to have no contact with them whatsoever or else he will be arrested.  He hires an attorney who looks into the situation who then informs him that his wife filed the restraining order on the vague basis that ‘she was afraid of him.’ What the HELL happened and why did she leave? She seemed perfectly happy. Women are not exactly world renowned for letting anyone know what they’re really thinking & the biggest mistake men make is thinking their wife thinks like he does. It is this dual personality aspect of women that is the creepiest and most treacherous.  Six months later they go to what is laughingly called ‘family’ court.  The Divorce Corporation Anti-Famiy Court “Helping women destroy their families for entertainment and profit for decades & profiting in the billions while we laugh in your face, stupid.” $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Because of the leverage of her vague, non-descript account of ‘abuse’ which she does not have to prove under current divorce law in every state, she wins the house and full custody of the children, with the restraining order still active indefinitely with no visitation of his children, AND he is ordered to now pay 1400.00 a month in child support for the two children.  Just like that… …and there isn’t any drama like on TV.  You are just railroaded through and there’s really nothing an attorney can do for you because the laws & system are so rigged, and you walk out wondering, “what just happened?”   Now meet Glen Carver. He’s nothing like Gary. He doesn’t have a very good job and him and his wife live in an apartment but he’s an OK guy all in all- never been in trouble with the law, etc. Him and his wife argue quite a lot about money since they don’t have much. One day they were shouting at each other for over an hour, but no physical fighting, but then this is what happened…  “I’ll show you, you SON OF A BITCH.” She calls 911 and the police come. She tells the police that Glen is ‘threatening’ her, even though he wasn’t. But because of the ‘must arrest’ domestic violence policies in most states, the police are forced to take him to jail. He’s done nothing wrong, but he’s going to jail anyway.   The legal system is very hostile to men. In domestic abuse cases, any false allegation a woman makes is likely to ruin a man's life. "Must Arrest” laws require police to make an arrest, regardless of the officer's judgment. "Primary aggressor" laws pre-dispose police toward arresting men rather than women, regardless of the truth of an event. "No drop prosecution" policies pressure prosecutors to pursue a criminal conviction, even when they would otherwise drop charges. America's Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) effectively denies the existence of abuse against men, and provides hundreds of millions of dollars in support only to women who claim to be victims of abuse. Clearly, the cards are stacked against men. Both the legal system and popular culture. When police find probable cause to make an arrest for alleged domestic violence, the decision to actually arrest varies by state. Practically, this means that when violence has been alleged, an arrest of "somebody" (usually the man) is essentially required. Even if a hysterical false accuser calms down and recants her accusation, the allegation as already been made and it is now too late to prevent an arrest (and likely restraining order).  Starting to get the picture now? In today's culture and legal atmosphere, so much as ch as critizing a woman foranything is now considered 'abuse.' And like straight out of a Hellish nightmare, it is completely up to her to determine what 'abuse is. Your freedom and future are completely in her hands... literally, with a cell phone and a 911 call. The second she makes that call, you are virtually on your way to jail. And women will not hesitate to do it out of petty vindictiveness. Women do not possess a moral compass, so therefore she will justify anything she does in her own mind and will not have any trouble sleeping at night.  Even worse, as we all well know, and studies have proven, is that fact that women are just as violent as men, so this means that they can do anything to you, because if you call the police when they attack you, all they have to do is lie and claim 'self-defense' and will be the one going to jail when the police arrive. Ask an attorney. If you do not believe women can be just as violent as men, then you're just ignorant and don't know anything about women. Many women die from domestic violence every year, but this is mostly because women instigate violence verbally or physically. Women & the courts will have you believe that men just wake up one morning and decide to beat the crap out of their wife or girlfriend for no reason at all out of the blue because men are born psycho, when women are the ones who are naturally emotionally unstable from birth.  But men are so reviled and demonized through myth and popular culture, that in this current political and legal environement, your wife can even kill you in your sleep by shooting you in the back with a shotgun and just simply claim 'abuse,' and go scott free, collect his life insurance, & not even feel the least bit remorse!  So ironically, you as the man are open season to endless real abuse of every stripe, powerless in your own house that you are a wage-slave to while having to walk on eggshells. Hell itself isn't as miserable as this, because Hell is a place you would deserve for actually doing something wrong.  & the only way for as a man to 'maintain' a marriage is in this fashion, but the catch 22 is that now that you are a wimp, your wife will lose all respect for you and is guaranteed to cheat on you & then eventually leave you. And then if you try the old fashioned dominant route...  ... well just remember that male dominance is now legally considered 'abuse,' and she will eventually call the police and/or divorce you on these grounds. And if you're stupid enough to think you can have a 'democracy' in a marriage, don't worry, you'll find out soon enough how long that lasts. Then you'll hit the bottle, wondering what is wrong with yourself, because like most men, you refuse to accept the truth the the whole system and set up is this screwed up and only 'losers' have these kinds of problems.  So now everyone tells you that you have a 'problem' and that you need 'help,' and that you need rehab as if there was really something wrong with you. This is the biggest load of shit in all of histroy. It's this rip-off set-up that needs rehabilitation. In fact, the 21st century American female combined with this hopelessly corrupt divorce court system & this intellectually and spiritually bankrupt society now dominated by these women...  ... is far more destructive than a life of drug addiction. It's that bad. Wake up.  ~ A man needs a woman like a lion needs a stove. ~ ~ Women deserve only equal opportunity, not equal outcomes. ~ ~ Men are not collectively "guilty" of anything. ~ ~ Never needing to be pregnant is a blessing. ~ ~ Feminist ideology “men have to respect women, but women have no reason to respect men” ~ ~ Everybody makes choices, and nobody should be entitled to special treatment because of those choices. Equal results based on unequal treatment amounts to no kind of equality at all. ~ Last edited by Tyrael; 3rd-February-2008 at 01:13 PM..   | ||||
|
3rd-February-2008
| ||||
| ||||
Tells it like it is. In all its gory. Overstated? Drawn in sharp relief, I would say. A tad parochial, as many Americans get. The same landscape picture in a variety of shades of sickly puce and violent green can be found in the UK, in Australia, in Canada, in New Zealand. All the Anglophile countries. And infecting beyond in the European countries to recognisable extent. It is the desert-lands of the human heart. Where once were gardens and forests, grassy hills and sunny banks beside quiet rivers, now we have scrub and sand and traps made by termites. Where once children's laughter was heard amongst the trees, now there is the silence and the willy willies. Where quiet places harboured whispers of affection and sweet nothings, now the air is rent with shrieks and blame. The soul is parched. A book of verse underneath the bough, a Jug of Wine, a loaf of bread and Thou, beside me, singing in the Wilder-ness, replaced by a moving finger writing on the McMansion wall, and moving on, and all the piety and wit will not call it back to cancel out half a line of it. Where is paradise now? I have tried all my life to leave the place better than I found it. But there are 6 billion other buggers out there messing it up. I am outnumbered. But... YOU don't just make a difference, you make THE difference.  | ||||
|
3rd-February-2008
| ||||
| ||||
superb!
| ||||
|
9th-February-2008
| ||||
| ||||
A problem with this article, even though the statements are true, is that it's too much "in your face" style, not so professional and that turns people off, away. However it is simple enough for average joes to comprehend.
~ A man needs a woman like a lion needs a stove. ~ ~ Women deserve only equal opportunity, not equal outcomes. ~ ~ Men are not collectively "guilty" of anything. ~ ~ Never needing to be pregnant is a blessing. ~ ~ Feminist ideology “men have to respect women, but women have no reason to respect men” ~ ~ Everybody makes choices, and nobody should be entitled to special treatment because of those choices. Equal results based on unequal treatment amounts to no kind of equality at all. ~ Last edited by Tyrael; 9th-February-2008 at 09:24 PM.. | ||||