This is a discussion on Chivalrous men and the victim-princess complex within the Facts and Figures forums, part of the General category; http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/roberts/050823 I recently came across an article sporting the irresistible title, A Nation of Little Princesses. Author Christopher Healy explores ...
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http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/roberts/050823 Quote:
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Little girls love princesses, but then they are supposed to grow out of it. Come to think of it... I thought fairy tales were uncool because they teach little girls that a man will come rescue them? Or was that only a passing fad in feminism? | ||||
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Who told them they were potential princesses? Did 'they' forget to say, "Ya gotta kiss the frog/beast first - and really mean it". Otherwise the magic doesn't work. Hang on in there myce!!!
The traditional male weapons in the sex war are non-cooperation and flight.The traditional female weapon is celebration of paternity and male responsibility. If women now choose to define this as patriarchal oppression, they are throwing away their best trick. Feminism, in dismantling patriarchy, is simply reviving the underlying greater natural freedom of men. - Geoff Dench 1998 (edited) | |||||
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I was just remembering my own childhood, the princess is an archetype that little girls are drawn to. Princess are beautiful, they live in castles and ride unicorns, their lives are magical and they are above and away from ordinary mundane life... and it is fantasy. Why girls grow up still believing they are princesses, I don't know.
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because they get their parents to believe it as well... they demand that they be treated like a princess. if mommy and daddy are always giving her whatever she desires, she's going to think that she really is royalty. parents need to learn when to draw the line. there's a difference between your kids having nice things, and just spoiling them rotten. | ||||
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Maybe they have a disfunctional family, and the parent(s) try to make it up to them by spoiling them rotten?
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They probably will. But then it will be too late for all of us.
The traditional male weapons in the sex war are non-cooperation and flight.The traditional female weapon is celebration of paternity and male responsibility. If women now choose to define this as patriarchal oppression, they are throwing away their best trick. Feminism, in dismantling patriarchy, is simply reviving the underlying greater natural freedom of men. - Geoff Dench 1998 (edited) | ||||
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Now, with men, I would say it has something to do with this; usually someone or something makes him grow up and stop being immature - whether from a beating or from someone telling him what everyone thinks of him or something else. Also, people generally seem to be less willing to put up with bullshit and immaturity from a man as opposed to from a woman.
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Yes, MT... in that when a woman is offended - it is virtually a crime. Hence, folk are far less inclined to speak their mind to a woman for fear of 'hurting her feelings'...
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Bear with me here because this could get a little long-winded, but I believe this might have something to do with role-models and positive reinforcement of certain values. I will make several assumptions, some supported also please note that while I make generalizations I do not mean to imply that all women are X or Y; I only apply this to those who are the subject of this topic. Marketing and advertising are highly pervasive, and women are particularly suggestible to it; evidenced by greater spending, larger portion of income considered disposable, etc. This same cultural force expects women to adopt a more masculine attitude in regards to employment and income, glamorizing the image of money-earning to make it seem more attractive. More money earned, more money spent. Women who are not independent and do not earn a self-sustaining income still believe that they reflect - confusing potential with reality - independent values usually associated with masculinity. Classical examples of positive females (fictional or otherwise) rarely hold up in a masculine context. Support - female and male archetypes almost always exhibit different attitudes and goals, resorting to different means to achieve said goals. Classical examples of positive females, including parents and other real-world figures with an 'old world' sensibility are not emulated. Support - their irrelevance to the current expected 'ideal' roles of women, roles which many women believe - reality aside - they currently espouse. The modern image of female independence was forged in a socially irresponsible time and is a narcissistic, self-serving consumer, her image is not loaded with real-world responsibilities, but rather with unexplained, glamorous success that leads to real world rewards which are almost always material in nature. This, listed above, is the only available image for modern women to aspire to. Excuse my rusty logic, if it is indeed rusty, and I know allot of this is merely speculation, but I post it, nevertheless, not in the hopes of convincing people that it is fact, but rather so that with their input it can be established if it is fact, if so to what degree or if not and if so to what degree. | ||||