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Come on Bob... Take a pill. IF you took the time to go and read the link I provided, they in fact DO specify "mother and other" etc......

TMOTS

The text talks about "biological fathers" do only a small percent of abuse but their graphs show that "fathers" so a lot more. That demonstrates their misuse of the term "fathers" to lie in their graphs.

Come on MOTS. Fathers don't do any where near as much abuse as the graphs and charts show.

Blessings

Bob

There is little doubt that women are the biggest contributors to child abuse.

But men have their own issues to contend with.

Homicide trends in the U.S.
Trends by gender Most victims and perpetrators in homicides are male

Male offender/Male victim 65.3% Male offender/Female victim 22.7% Female offender/Male victim 9.6% Female offender/Female victim 2.4% Both male and female offenders are more likely to target male victims than female victims.
Victimization rates for both males and females have declined in recent years

• Males were almost 4 times more likely than females to be murdered in 2005.
• In 2005 rates for females reached their lowest point recorded; rates for males increased slightly from the low point recorded in 2000.

To view data, click on the chart.
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For more information about gender patterns in violent victimization see Key Facts at a Glance.

Offending rates for both males and females followed the same pattern as victimization rates

• Males were almost 10 times more likely than females to commit murder in 2005.
• The offending rates for females declined since the early 1980's but stablized after 1999. Offending rates for males peaked in the early 1990's, fell to record lows,and stablized in recent years.

To view data, click on the chart.
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The gender distribution of homicide victims and offenders differs by type of homicide

For the years 1976-2005 combined, among all homicide victims, females are particularly at risk for intimate killings and sex-related homicides.

Homicide Type by Gender, 1976-2005

Victims Offenders
Male Female Male Female
All homicides 76.5% 23.5% 88.8% 11.2% Victim/offender relationship
Intimate 35.2% 64.8% 65.5% 34.5%
Family 51.5% 48.5% 70.8% 29.2%
Infanticide 54.6% 45.4% 61.8% 38.2%
Eldercide 58.1% 41.9% 85.2% 14.8% Circumstances
Felony murder 78.4% 21.6% 93.2% 6.8%
Sex related 18.8% 81.2% 93.6% 6.4%
Drug related 90.2% 9.8% 95.5% 4.5%
Gang related 94.7% 5.3% 98.3% 1.7%
Argument 77.8% 22.2% 85.6% 14.4%
Workplace 79.1% 20.9% 91.3% 8.7% Weapon
Gun homicide 82.7% 17.3% 91.3% 8.7%
Arson 56.4% 43.6% 79.1% 20.9%
Poison 55.3% 44.7% 63.5% 36.5% Multiple victims or offenders
Multiple victims 63.3% 36.7% 93.5% 6.5%
Multiple offenders 85.6% 14.4% 91.6% 8.4% The relationship between the victim and the offender differs for female and male victims

• Female victims are more likely than male victims to be killed by an intimate or family member.
• Male victims are more likely than female victims to be killed by acquaintances or strangers.

Victim Offender Relationship by Victim Gender, 1976-2005

Percent of homicide victims by gender Victim/Offender relationship Male Female Total 100.0 % 100.0 % Intimate 5.0 % 30.0 % Spouse 3.0 18.3 Ex-spouse 0.2 1.4 Boyfriend/Girlfriend 1.8 10.4 Other family 6.8 % 11.8 % Parent 1.3 2.8 Child 2.1 5.4 Sibling 1.2 0.9 Other family 2.2 2.8 Acquaintance/Known 35.3 % 21.8 % Neighbor 1.1 1.3 Employee/er 0.1 0.1 Friend/Acquaintance 29.4 17.0 Other Known 4.6 3.4 Stranger 15.5 % 8.7 % Undetermined 37.4 % 27.6 % Source: FBI, Supplementary Homicide Reports, 1976-2005.
See also Additional Information about the Data.
Note: The victims of the 9/11/01 terrorist attacks are not included in this analysis.

Information on infanticide:

Homicide trends in the U.S.
Infanticide The number of homicides of children under age 5 increased through the mid 1990's, but declined recently

To view data, click on the chart.
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The infanticide rates have remained fairly stable or declined for all racial groups

Infanticide rates for --

• black children have recently declined, reaching the lowest level recorded in 2004
• white children have remained relatively stable
• children of other racial groups have remained relatively stable.

To view data, click on the chart.
[D]
The younger the child, the greater the risk for infanticide

To view data, click on the chart.
[D]
A parent is the perpetrator in most homicides of children under age 5

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[D]

Note: Parents includes stepparents.

Of all children under age 5 murdered from 1976-2005 --

• 31% were killed by fathers
• 29% were killed by mothers
• 23% were killed by male acquaintances
• 7% were killed by other relatives
• 3% were killed by strangers

Of those children killed by someone other than their parent, 81% were killed by males.
Relationship, 1976-2005

Gender of
offender Parent Other family Friend/
Acquaintance Stranger Unknown Male 5,273 757 3,825 438 328 Female 4,947 416 728 24 101 Most of the children killed are male and most of the offenders are male

To view data, click on the chart.
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Source: FBI, Supplementary Homicide Reports, 1976-2005.
See also Additional information about the data.
Note: The victims of the 9/11/01 terrorist attacks are not included in this analysis.
For additional statistical information on this topic, see the BJS publication Child Victimizers: Violent Offenders and Their Victims.
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*Sadly, most victims of homicide and infanticide are male. According to the stats given here by the US Bureau of Justice, mothers and fathers almost evenly contribute to deaths of children under the age of 5.

*Men (age 12 and over) kill each other more often than in any other perpetrator-victim relationship.

*Good news: these rates are declining overall.

The above stats are taken from homicide reports.

The conclusion for infanticide trends:

Most of the children killed are male and most of the offenders are male

But I would also like to add, the stats I posted are only in regard to deaths, not cases of child abuse that does not result in death.

(Looking for stats on this.)

Following stats were taken from the US Dept. of Health and Human Services (Administration for Children and Families):

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/p...06/summary.htm

In 2006, nearly 80 percent (79.4%) of perpetrators of child maltreatment were parents, and another 6.7 percent were other relatives of the victim. Women comprised a larger percentage of all perpetrators than men, 57.9 percent compared to 42.1 percent. More than 75 percent (77.5%) of all perpetrators were younger than age 40.



*Indeed, from these stats women comprised a larger percentage of all child abuse/neglect perpetrators than men, by a margin of 15.8%.

Quote from TERA

But I would also like to add, the stats I posted are only in regard to deaths, not cases of child abuse that does not result in death.

(Looking for stats on this.)

And they specifically were:

Based upon an almost 30 year period that was medianed and not relevant to the discussion.

Specifically that of male/female and race homicides in general - with the emphasis on males of course.

Typical feminist misdirection of the topic.

The reason it has been removed.

TMOTS

Don't know why the stats I posted a few minutes ago on infanticide and homicide are gone, but here are the stats for infanticide (US Bureau of Justice):
The number of homicides of children under age 5 increased through the mid 1990's, but declined recently

To view data, click on the chart.
[D]
The infanticide rates have remained fairly stable or declined for all racial groups

Infanticide rates for --

• black children have recently declined, reaching the lowest level recorded in 2004
• white children have remained relatively stable
• children of other racial groups have remained relatively stable.

To view data, click on the chart.
[D]
The younger the child, the greater the risk for infanticide

To view data, click on the chart.
[D]
A parent is the perpetrator in most homicides of children under age 5

To view data, click on the chart.
[D]

Note: Parents includes stepparents.

Of all children under age 5 murdered from 1976-2005 --

• 31% were killed by fathers
• 29% were killed by mothers
• 23% were killed by male acquaintances
• 7% were killed by other relatives
• 3% were killed by strangers

Of those children killed by someone other than their parent, 81% were killed by males.
Relationship, 1976-2005

Gender of
offender Parent Other family Friend/
Acquaintance Stranger Unknown Male 5,273 757 3,825 438 328 Female 4,947 416 728 24 101 Most of the children killed are male and most of the offenders are male

To view data, click on the chart.
[D]
Source: FBI, Supplementary Homicide Reports, 1976-2005.
See also Additional information about the data.
Note: The victims of the 9/11/01 terrorist attacks are not included in this analysis.
For additional statistical information on this topic, see the BJS publication Child Victimizers: Violent Offenders and Their Victims.
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TMOTS,

I'm not a misandrist, and homicide reports are not "misandrist", either. I acknowledged that stats do show that women are more often the perpetrators of child abuse and neglect, while men are more often the perpetrators of infanticide and homicide.

That is what the stats in the US say.

We can debate the legitimacy of the stats.

I'm not passing judgment on men or women. Just reporting what I've found, that's all.

We could argue all day long if you want to about whether men or women are more aggressive, but it seems to me that they both contribute to abuse, neglect, and infanticide.

I think it's really important to keep in mind that those who abuse, neglect, or kill their children are by far the minority.

*Most people (men and women) are not abusive, not killers.*

Quote from TERA

I think it's really important to keep in mind that those who abuse, neglect, or kill their children are by far the minority.

*Most people (men and women) are not abusive, not killers.*

Indeed so - the vast, vast majority are normal, sane folks. So it begs the question, why does feminism as a movement focus purely on the bad and try to deceive the populace into believing a few bad eggs represent all men, and then when a woman does do something bad they run to her defense, either blaming the man (Andrea Yates, et al) or mental illness.

That's one area I find feminism to be blatantly misandric and misogynistic - they tell women "you're all too fragile to take any responsibility" (which surely beats the hell out of chivalry) and then tells women and men "Only men can be blamed, even for a woman's decisions".

Absultely insane, yes?

Quote from TERA

Don't know why the stats I posted a few minutes ago on infanticide and homicide are gone, but here are the stats for infanticide (US Bureau of Justice):
The number of homicides of children under age 5 increased through the mid 1990's, but declined recently

Most of the children killed are male and most of the offenders are male

What that means is that most of the children reported as "killed" are male. It disregards the well known truth that most children killed by mothers (most often boys) are not recorded as "killed," but written off as SIDS, natural causes, etc.

Mommy murder is by far the leading cause of death of boys under 5.

Blessings

Bob

They were deleted because they are misleading and inaccurate. Reading the methodologies used in calculations, you would see that as well and not attempted to mislead and misrepresent.... or maybe you would. Either way, it's bogus and unacceptable.

"While many agencies report supplemental data on homicides, much of the data concerning offenders may not be reported because no suspects were identified. The most significant problem in using SHR data to analyze offender characteristics is the sizable and growing number of unsolved homicides contained in the data file. Ignoring unsolved homicides, of course, would seriously understate calculated rates of offending by particular subgroups of the population, distort trends over time among these same subgroups, and bias observed patterns of offending to the extent that the rate of missing offender data is associated with offender characteristics."

"To adjust for unsolved homicides, a method for offender imputation has been devised, using available information about the victims murdered in both solved and unsolved homicides. Through this imputation algorithm, the demographic characteristics of unidentified offenders are inferred on the basis of similar homicide cases -- similar in terms of the victim's demographic profile, circumstances of the homicide such as felony or argument, location of the homicide (region and urbaness), gun involvement, and year of the offense -- that had been solved. In other words, offender profiles for unsolved crimes are estimated based on the offender profiles in solved cases matched on victim age, sex, and race; circumstances of the homicide; location of the homicide; and gun involvement; as well as year. All offender-based estimates were imputed using this procedure."

So they used the ole "we got a white male here that did almost the same thing so we will count this as another white male for this unsolved one". or "well, this is a predominantly unemployed black community, so we will use out "algorithm" (read assume) that all of the offenders were black.

And to add to their little slight of hand, they include almost 30 years of "gathered information". There are a boatload of unsolved crimes in 30 years to use their "algorithm" to come up with the offender to add in the mix.

Assumptions, similarities, and "trends" are not facts. Nice try. That is disingenuous and inaccurate to say the least.

This sort of shoddy "statistical analysis" is nothing more than; I see little ole grannies eating grapes as they are choosing them from the supermarket all of the time...Without paying for them. So based on the above methodology, we can assume that the total loss of grapes for all supermarkets, all over the world are due to little ole ladies.... It's a "trend"!

Post it again, and I will remove it again. If a stat is not clear, concise, and riddled with assumptions labeled as "trends" it is nothing more than an opinion based upon minimal facts. No matter where it came from.


TMOTS