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    Guy White - 7/2/2008


    The multiculturalists, feminists and mainstream media never stop ranting about our male-dominated society. But can you name a single society in the history of the world that was more dominated by women than ours?

    What do men dominate? Inventions. Business creation. Poetry, literature, music. Basically anything that you need to work to build. Nobody gave Microsoft or Boeing or Ford to men. Males simply created all these companies.

    Do men get paid more? Yes. But that’s because men work more. Do men get paid more per hour? Yes. But again that’s because they work more. If you work overtime, you get paid 50-100% more per hour. If you work less than full-time, your salary will likely reflect your part-time status. The average working woman in the US does not work 40 hours. The average man works more than that.

    Men, on average, work about 10-12 hours more per week than women. When you count for hours worked, overtime pay, how dangerous a job is, whether you started a business or work for someone else, women are actually paid 1% more according to a Cato Institute study. Affirmative action works for women, just as it does for blacks.

    Are men more likely to run big companies? Yes. But they started almost all of them and they invented just about everything these companies sell.

    Look around. Look at everything you use in daily life.

    You wake up in the morning on a bed created by men. You use the toilet and the shower invented by men. You wear clothes that usually were designed by men (Donna Karan is one of the few exceptions). You are in a house designed and built by men. You get in a car that was invented by men. You drive on a highway developed by men. You stop at a red light or a stop sign, both invented by men.

    You get to your office building which was invented by men. You get in your elevator, invented by men. You sit down in front of your computer, also invented by men. You work for a company that was almost definitely founded by men. For lunch you go to a restaurant that was most likely started by men.

    On your way home at the end of the day, you listen to the radio which was invented by men.

    You get home and decide to read a book or a newspaper, without giving men any credit for inventing the printing press, starting the publishing company and most likely writing the book/newspaper article.

    If you get a headache, you take a pill invented by a man working for a company that as founded by another man.

    Finally before falling asleep, you turn on the TV, invented by men, and listen to hairy lesbians bitch about the male-dominated society, how men control all those companies they started.

    It is not fair - we are told by women who wear a bra for no other reason to hide their chest hair - that Bill Gates gets to control Microsoft, the very corporation he founded.

    You switch the channels and now you are watching a sit-com. It doesn’t matter which sit-com it is because the plot is always the same: the woman is brilliant while the man is a complete mess and a moron who can’t do anything right.

    The woman is disgusted at the thought of having sex with her husband and stays married to him only because nature played an evil joke on her by making her irrationally fall in love with him. The man, meanwhile, acts like a little boy every time he sees his wife of 30 years with short sleeves, much less undressed. While women are disgusted at the sight of their husbands, men can’t control themselves when they see an overweight 50-year-old with stretch-marks and wrinkles.

    Both spouses acknowledge that he’s not worth her either in terms of looks or intelligence. She feels free to call him an idiot in front of their kids or his parents and co-workers.

    She also feels free to tell him of her attraction to other men, and he’s made to feel abnormal for being upset that his wife is not only fantasizing about others, but doesn’t even have enough respect for him to keep her dreams to herself.

    If the wife doesn’t work, she says that her staying at home and cooking a meal, which takes no more than an hour a day, is a more important “job” than the man’s 8-10 work-shift. But if the man ever says that it’s the stay-at-home wife’s job to take care of the house, she feels free not only to yell at him, but to assault him with any object she can reach.

    So which is it? Is staying at home to cook and clean a job or not? Or is it just a way to avoid working at all, at home or in the office?

    You turn to Comedy Central and hear one comedian after another berate men by claiming they are so much less intelligent than women. But if that’s true, why did men invent just about everything?

    Why is it that even when it comes to things that women tend to do much more often - poetry, for instance - the great ones are almost always male?

    Comedians - and men married for a long time - advice young men to “just say sorry”. But why? Even in Saudi Arabia women aren’t told that they always wrong and must always apologize. Is your beautiful, genius, flawless wife incapable of error? Why are boys taught from the day they hit puberty to always apologize to women?

    Ever since you turned 10, you were told to do things that would make women like you. But God help anyone if he suggests that women should do things to make men like them. All the feminists with pitch forks will come out.

    And you aren’t always wrong only when you are married to your wife. You are always wrong when she decides to divorce you.

    Everything gets split half-half.

    Her “half” is that she gets the inside of the house. Your “half” is that you get the outside along with a restraining order forbidding you come within a hundred feet of the house which you bought.

    You each also get something when it comes to your kids. She gets the children to live with her. You get to pay child support.

    You have no rights to your kids. If she’s nice enough to let you see them, you are lucky. If she wants nothing to do with you, she’ll refuse to follow the order of visitation.

    The courts will not only fail to enforce your visitation rights, but if you dare to show up to pick up your kids, she’ll call the police and claim that you attacked her resulting in your arrest. After spending the night in jail, you will be released and forced into anger management for a year to dismiss her false charges.

    While you are attending anger management, she’ll show up at your job, attack you and then call the police because you grabbed her arm as she was trying to hit your head with a stapler. Nobody will care to ask what she was doing in your office and you’ll get arrested again.

    Now you are facing felony charges because she had an order of protection from your previous criminal case. The charges will eventually get dismissed, but not before you spend $10,000 on a lawyer.

    Frequently women claim that their children were raped or sodomized by their father. But if the mothers knew that, why didn’t they stop it at the time? Nobody will ask that. You’ll get arrested, thrown in jail for days while your family will scramble to find $100,000 to bail you out. Meanwhile you’ll get attacked or even gang-raped by other inmates because you are an accused child molester.

    Several days later they will finally conduct a medical examination of your 5-year-old son and find that he was most definitely never raped because such rape would result in great damage to his rear-end, and those injuries are simply absent. You’ll get released, probably with a broken leg, two black eyes and a ripped apart anus. Nothing will happen to your wife for making those allegations.

    After engaging in multiple physical altercations with your ex-wife in your office, and having missed work because of repeated trips to jail because of her false allegations, you’ll get fired.

    But the child support amount remains the same because it is not determined by how much you make, but rather by how much you are capable of making. No court will take into consideration that your wife got you fired by showing up in your office.

    So as you are looking for a job for several months, the child support payments - along with fines - keep growing. Your ex-wife drags you back to court and the judge rules that you violated the child support order.

    There’s no excuse to child support non-payment under the Bradley Amendment. There’s no statute of limitations, it is not subject to bankruptcy, and even a physical incapacity is not a defense.

    One soldier returned from Iraq in 1991 after spending half a year as POW and got arrested for non-payment of child support while a POW in Iraq. A man who spent 10 years in prison for a crime he proved he did not commit was still on the hook for child support for the time he was incarcerated. As was a man whose DNA test proved he’s not even the father. Even being in a coma is not a defense, as at least one man found out.

    You lose your driver’s license, your professional licenses, liens are placed on you and your bank accounts. If you make any money, the wages are garnished. If you don’t find a job quick to pay off your child support debt, you’ll be thrown in jail for up to half a year. When you get out, you’ll still owe the money.

    If your parents allow you to sleep on the couch in their living room, it is considered income and you must pay child support from it.

    To make sure your life is completely ruined, if you marry again, your second wife will also have to pay your first one because the support is counted based on “family income”. So if your first wife is vindictive enough, she can prevent you from ever re-marrying. See, and you thought you were divorced and free to do as you pleased!

    Meanwhile, your ex finds a boyfriend across two time-zones and moves in with him along with your children. Now you lose whatever legal visitation rights you had to your kids as the court finds it to be unnecessarily troublesome for the little ones to travel so far to see their father regularly. You are allowed to fly a couple of times a year to see them - if you are willing to risk getting arrested again if your ex-wife gets mad at you for coming. Nobody seriously considers the possibility that you might get custody of the children to prevent them from moving to another state, away from their school and friends.

    When it’s time for the government to conduct a child support study, they only ask the women. Yes, it’s true, men aren’t even asked.

    “Do you receive enough child support for your children” is one of the questions. But nothing is ever enough. Human demands are unlimited. And many women are convinced that child support must cover all the expenses on the kids, not just the father’s half. Everyone is feminist when it comes to women working part-time getting paid the same as men who work overtime. Very few are feminist when it’s time to pay for anything, even their own children.

    “Did you get custody of your children” is another question. She did get custody, don’t doubt it. But she’s outraged that the father got visitation and considers her own custody incomplete. So she says that no, she did not get custody.

    Surveys show that up to 40% of single mothers claim they don’t have custody of their children. Go outside and ask around. How many single mothers do you know who do not have their kids life with them? Very few. And almost all of them lost custody because their near-adult kids did not want to live with them or the mothers had peculiar jobs as prostitutes or drug-runners for their drug-dealer boyfriends. Any woman with a regular job, or no job at all, will get custody of her children - if she wants it - unless they are too old to be forced by the court to live with mom.

    In the rare case that you get custody of your kids, courts regularly fail to impose any child support on the mother and even if they do, it is never enforced.

    And as you go through this ordeal where courts do not even listen to men and take any allegation by women as proof that is politically-incorrect to even challenge, you are now broken man who needs a psychologist to help you deal with your depression, except that you can’t afford one.

    You begin to lose your breath and feel a pain in your arm. Suddenly you collapse. You are just 42, you still think of yourself as young. But you aren’t. A woman your age is likely to be perfectly healthy. Men your age are at a high risk of heart attack, cancer, seizures.

    Every state and the federal government have a department of women’s health. Almost none have a department of men’s health, despite males dying eight year earlier and being at risk for life-threatening illness as soon as you hit 40.

    When the government gets money for medical research, far more goes to find a cure for diseases that afflict primarily women than men. No doubt it’s more important to find treatment for 85-year-old women than for 40-year-old men.

    After you come home from the hospital, your kids call you and talk about their mom getting them into some weird hippie or Muslim or Buddhist or nudist semi-cult. You can’t do anything about it. You have no right to your kids. Even if you have visitation, it gives you no right to to influence your kids’ lifestyle.

    And you aren’t the only one taking pills now. So is your son. The 9-year-old boy was running during a school-break and that’s now considered a sign of ADD. Being a boy is abnormal. If a boy plays with dolls and you object, you are “pre-historic”. But if he gets mind-altering medication for running or playing with a toy gun, that’s progressive thinking.

    Your ex loves your son much more now that he’s medicated - it sure is easier to raise a boy who just sits there after taking a pill.

    Your other son, now 7 years old, was watching TV when your ex was out on a date and picked up all the sexual comments and acts that he doesn’t yet understand, but wants to copy because it makes him feel grown up. So he tried to kiss a girl in his class and now the school is terrified that it has a growing rapist who must be stopped through re-education.

    Meanwhile your 13 year old daughter says that one of her mom’s loser boyfriends with whom they’ve lived inappropriately touched her on several occasions. Fathers, unless insane, almost never molest their own kids. Step-fathers are more than 40 times more likely to do something inappropriate with young girls, and temporary live-in boyfriend is an even greater threat.

    But you can’t do anything. Everyone can influence your kids, their recently college-indoctrinated teachers who force them into sensitivity training, a feminist psychiatrist who drugged them, all their mom’s boyfriends, everyone but you.

    You remember the advice you got when you were younger to just agree with you wife, just say you are sorry, just do as she says.

    After several trips to jail and a loss of your job, house and kids, you now wish you just kept quiet and acquiesced to all your wife’s unreasonable demands.

    Your ex-wife now decided that your conversation with your kids is too long for her taste and she ends it against the wishes of your children.

    You turn on the TV once again and see the same hairy lesbian you remember from years ago ranting that men have some unfair advantage in our society. You feel your hands shake. Your face gets flushed. You pick up the phone and call a friend, or a psychologist or a family lawyer. And you cry like you haven’t cried since you were 5-years-old… as the hairy lesbian on TV condemns our patriarchal society.

    [i]Guy White writes on issues of race. He can be reached at guywhiteusa@yahoo.com. Visit his blog at http://guywhite.wordpress.com/
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    There’s no excuse to child support non-payment under the Bradley Amendment. There’s no statute of limitations, it is not subject to bankruptcy, and even a physical incapacity is not a defense.

    One soldier returned from Iraq in 1991 after spending half a year as POW and got arrested for non-payment of child support while a POW in Iraq. A man who spent 10 years in prison for a crime he proved he did not commit was still on the hook for child support for the time he was incarcerated. As was a man whose DNA test proved he’s not even the father. Even being in a coma is not a defense, as at least one man found out.

    You lose your driver’s license, your professional licenses, liens are placed on you and your bank accounts. If you make any money, the wages are garnished. If you don’t find a job quick to pay off your child support debt, you’ll be thrown in jail for up to half a year. When you get out, you’ll still owe the money.

    If your parents allow you to sleep on the couch in their living room, it is considered income and you must pay child support from it.
    To make sure your life is completely ruined, if you marry again, your second wife will also have to pay your first one because the support is counted based on “family income”. So if your first wife is vindictive enough, she can prevent you from ever re-marrying. See, and you thought you were divorced and free to do as you pleased!

    I am Jack's seething rage.

    You know, I've said time and again that it's time for women to take a stand against this kind of thing, at the political level. NO, REALLY? Look at that. LOOK AT IT. And tell me you approve.

    If you approve then you're my enemy.

    If you do not approve and you do nothing then you are as complicit as the German citizens living around concentration camps. No exaggeration. If you are complicit... then you're my enemy.

    Last chance, assholes...


    Yep, just more of our legal system that out of one side of its mouth says that women are equal to men and on the other side says that they are idiot children that the state has to make sure is supported be the former husband even after she has given up any right to be supported.

    The government has got a great plan if it is their hope to make sure that men don't marry or have children and it wishes to see our society gone in the next couple of generations. Great plan!


    See this related thread about Men's Rights Objectives.
    ~ Support Fathers & Families for Father's Rights and Equal Parenting! Go to fathersandfamilies.org ~

    ~ Fathers & FamiliesTM improves the lives of children and strengthens society by protecting the child’s right to the love and care of both parents after separation or divorce. ~

    ~ Feminism = Every bad thing any man has ever committed highlighted and exaggerated; every bit of good systematically undermined, vilified or ignored. ~

    ~ A man needs a woman like a lion needs a stove. ~

    ~ Women deserve only equal opportunity, not equal outcomes. ~

    ~ Men are not collectively "guilty" of anything. ~

    ~ Never needing to be pregnant is a blessing. ~

    ~ Feminist ideology “men have to respect women, but women have no reason to respect men” ~

    ~ Everybody makes choices, and nobody should be entitled to special treatment because of those choices.
    Equal results based on unequal treatment amounts to no kind of equality at all. ~

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    Excellent, easy to read article - very enjoyable.
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    So good I Bookmarked this....really makes you sad.
    The men's and fathers' movement needs to make sure it never sees females as the enemy,
    but only misandry--whether from females or from males.
    If not, we'll become like the bigoted feminists that this movement was formed to oppose.
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    Added to the Facts & Figures forum section.
    Last edited by Tyrael; 26th-February-2009 at 04:45 AM.
    ~ Support Fathers & Families for Father's Rights and Equal Parenting! Go to fathersandfamilies.org ~

    ~ Fathers & FamiliesTM improves the lives of children and strengthens society by protecting the child’s right to the love and care of both parents after separation or divorce. ~

    ~ Feminism = Every bad thing any man has ever committed highlighted and exaggerated; every bit of good systematically undermined, vilified or ignored. ~

    ~ A man needs a woman like a lion needs a stove. ~

    ~ Women deserve only equal opportunity, not equal outcomes. ~

    ~ Men are not collectively "guilty" of anything. ~

    ~ Never needing to be pregnant is a blessing. ~

    ~ Feminist ideology “men have to respect women, but women have no reason to respect men” ~

    ~ Everybody makes choices, and nobody should be entitled to special treatment because of those choices.
    Equal results based on unequal treatment amounts to no kind of equality at all. ~

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    I have never been in this situation but it still makes me feel upset and angry; no where near the levels of the men who have actually gone through it.

    It has strongly reinforced my decision to be devoid of marriage and children.

    I will certainly educate other men of this.

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    I have a lot of problems with this article. First of all, we are not living in a matriarchal society, since men still hold the majority of political power. I have also never heard anyone complain about the fact that men invented everything, or that men run the companies they created, simply that, historically, these opportunities were not available to women. I know this site is largely against feminism, but reinforcing idiotic misconceptions about feminism while painting them all with the same brush is a grave misstep. Also, the author's listing of everything we use created by men, and the vast majority of major companies run by men contradicts his assertion that we live in a matriarchal society. Despite the fact that the notion that no woman is attracted to her husband is utterly absurd, if your wife isn't attracted to you, don't blame your wife. No one has control over who they are attracted to. There is also no problem with men or women being attracted to people other than their spouses or significant others, it's simply human nature. This should not be vilified. Attributing women as the sole perpetrators of name-calling and verbal abuse is silly. This is something shared by men and women, and stating otherwise is ignorant. It's also ignorant to claim that being a homemaker is an easy job, because it isn't. It's not more important that working out of the home, nor is it less important. Both serve a function, and both are difficult. When I turn on Comedy Central, which I try not to do often, I don't see men claiming men are stupid, I see men and women making fun of perceptions about gender roles, often in a self-deprecating manner. Self-deprecation is an underrated value, in my opinion. Again, assuming that greatness, especially in an area as subjective as poetry, is mostly limited to males is ignorant, and assumes that discrimination faced by women played no part in this. Again, the thing about comedians is that they often make jokes, and the assumption that men apologize more than women is ridiculous. The ability to realize that you've made a mistake and the willingness to apologize are virtues, and should be qualities found in everyone. The notion that men are pressured to make girls like them, but girls are not pressured to make boys like them is also totally off the mark. Walk into a store and look at the magazines targeted at females, particularly teenage girls. They are filled with things like "10 ways to make him happier" "20 ways to make him say WOW!" etc. This is a societal pressure that, again, affects everyone. It should also be pointed out that women aren't the only ones who initiate a divorce, even if they are in the majority, and they do not always get custody of a child. This article also fails to take into account marriages that end amicably. To be honest, I'd rather people get divorced than stay in marriages in which they are miserable, even if this results in sky high divorce rates. This article also fails to take into account that the child support law doesn't just affect men, and has, in fact, done good things. Although, it does need to be seriously revised. On a related note, if the assertion that child support in America is based on how much a person can make rather than how much a person does make is correct, then you have one frakked up system. This article is far too lengthy, not to mention ridiculous, to discuss in-depth any further. It uses faulty logic, generalizations, and ridiculous scenarios to endorse an issue which it is ultimately harming by using such tactics.

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    Re: Our Matriarchical Society

    We live in a matriarchy, globally, look to the female researchers cited in Wisdom Library/ Essential to find your proof.

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    I gave up trying to read post #6 after 20 lines without a line-break...
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    For lunch you go to a restaurant that was most likely started by men.
    Who else ?

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    Quote Quote from pf450lz View Post
    I have a lot of problems with this article. First of all, we are not living in a matriarchal society, since men still hold the majority of political power. I have also never heard anyone complain about the fact that men invented everything, or that men run the companies they created, simply that, historically, these opportunities were not available to women. I know this site is largely against feminism, but reinforcing idiotic misconceptions about feminism while painting them all with the same brush is a grave misstep.
    Also, the author's listing of everything we use created by men, and the vast majority of major companies run by men contradicts his assertion that we live in a matriarchal society. Despite the fact that the notion that no woman is attracted to her husband is utterly absurd, if your wife isn't attracted to you, don't blame your wife. No one has control over who they are attracted to.

    There is also no problem with men or women being attracted to people other than their spouses or significant others, it's simply human nature. This should not be vilified. Attributing women as the sole perpetrators of name-calling and verbal abuse is silly. This is something shared by men and women, and stating otherwise is ignorant. It's also ignorant to claim that being a homemaker is an easy job, because it isn't. It's not more important that working out of the home, nor is it less important. Both serve a function, and both are difficult. When I turn on Comedy Central, which I try not to do often, I don't see men claiming men are stupid, I see men and women making fun of perceptions about gender roles, often in a self-deprecating manner. Self-deprecation is an underrated value, in my opinion.

    Again, assuming that greatness, especially in an area as subjective as poetry, is mostly limited to males is ignorant, and assumes that discrimination faced by women played no part in this.

    Again, the thing about comedians is that they often make jokes, and the assumption that men apologize more than women is ridiculous. The ability to realize that you've made a mistake and the willingness to apologize are virtues, and should be qualities found in everyone. The notion that men are pressured to make girls like them, but girls are not pressured to make boys like them is also totally off the mark. Walk into a store and look at the magazines targeted at females, particularly teenage girls. They are filled with things like "10 ways to make him happier" "20 ways to make him say WOW!" etc. This is a societal pressure that, again, affects everyone. It should also be pointed out that women aren't the only ones who initiate a divorce, even if they are in the majority, and they do not always get custody of a child. This article also fails to take into account marriages that end amicably. To be honest, I'd rather people get divorced than stay in marriages in which they are miserable, even if this results in sky high divorce rates. This article also fails to take into account that the child support law doesn't just affect men, and has, in fact, done good things. Although, it does need to be seriously revised.

    On a related note, if the assertion that child support in America is based on how much a person can make rather than how much a person does make is correct, then you have one frakked up system. This article is far too lengthy, not to mention ridiculous, to discuss in-depth any further. It uses faulty logic, generalizations, and ridiculous scenarios to endorse an issue which it is ultimately harming by using such tactics.
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    It is 2011 we live in a matriarchal society. Men have accomplished great things in the past, that being before 2011. The machinations of oppression are documented here at AM. 2030 looms near, the ice at the ends of globe is melting, the global economy is hurting, our sons are intentionally repressed. It is lovely that some wish to advocate for a world in which they will feel more comfortable...
    ...we are in the red zone now, it is time for forward progress.


 

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