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What Campus Rape Crisis?

Here's a great article by Heather Mac Donald saying, well, basically my own thoughts on the matter of campus rape.


What campus rape crisis?
Promiscuity and hype have created a phony epidemic at colleges.
By Heather Mac Donald
Los Angeles Times
February 24, 2008


It's a lonely job, working the phones at a college rape crisis center.
Day after day, you wait for the casualties to show up from the alleged
campus rape epidemic -- but no one calls. Could this mean that the
crisis is overblown? No. It means, according to campus sexual-assault
organizations, that the abuse of coeds is worse than anyone had ever
imagined. It means that consultants and counselors need more funding
to persuade student rape victims to break the silence of their
suffering.


It is a central claim of these organizations that between a fifth and
a quarter of all college women will be raped or will be the targets of
attempted rape by the end of their college years. Harvard's Office of
Sexual Assault Prevention and Response uses the 20% to 25% statistic.
Websites at New York University, Syracuse University, Penn State and
the University of Virginia, among many other places, use the figures
as well.


And who will be the assailants of these women? Not terrifying
strangers who will grab them in dark alleys, but the guys sitting next
to them in class or at the cafeteria.


If the one-in-four statistic is correct, campus rape represents a
crime wave of unprecedented proportions. No felony, much less one as
serious as rape, has a victimization rate remotely approaching 20% or
25%, even over many years. The 2006 violent crime rate in Detroit, one
of the most violent cities in the U.S., was 2,400 murders, rapes,
robberies, and aggravated assaults per 100,000 inhabitants -- a rate
of 2.4%.


Such a crime wave -- in which millions of young women would graduate
having suffered the most terrifying assault, short of murder, that a
woman can experience -- would require nothing less than a state of
emergency. Admissions policies, which if the numbers are true are
allowing in tens of thousands of vicious criminals, would require a
complete revision, perhaps banning male students entirely. The
nation's nearly 10 million female undergraduates would need to take
the most stringent safety precautions.


None of this crisis response occurs, of course -- because the crisis
doesn't exist.


So where do the numbers come from? During the 1980s, feminist
researchers committed to the rape-culture theory discovered that
asking women directly if they had been raped yielded disappointing
results -- very few women said that they had been. So Ms. magazine
commissioned University of Arizona public health professor Mary Koss
to develop a different way to measure the prevalence of rape.


Rather than asking female students about rape per se, Koss asked them
if they had ever experienced actions that she then classified as rape.
One question, for example, asked, "Have you had sexual intercourse
when you didn't want to because a man gave you alcohol or drugs?" -- a
question that is ambiguous on several fronts, including the woman's
degree of incapacitation, the causal relation between being given a
drink and having sexual intercourse, and the man's intentions. Koss'
method produced the 25% rate, which Ms. then published.


It was a flawed study on a number of levels, but the most powerful
refutation came from her own subjects: 73% of the women whom the study
characterized as rape victims told the researchers that they hadn't
been raped. Further, 42% of the study's supposed victims said they had
had intercourse again with their alleged assailants -- though it is
highly unlikely that a raped woman would have sex again with the fiend
who attacked her.


Despite all this, the numbers have stuck. Today, John Foubert, an
education professor at William and Mary College (and founder of a
group called One-in-Four, which works on sexual assault issues and has
chapters on 17 campuses), says, "The one-in-four statistic has been
replicated in several studies for several decades. To the extent that
social science can prove anything, which I believe it can, the one-in-
four statistic has been proven beyond all reasonable doubt. My
instincts tell me that the statistic is actually much higher."


Yet subsequent campus rape studies keep turning up the pesky
divergence between the victims' and the researchers' point of view.


A 2006 survey of sorority women at the University of Virginia, for
example, found that only 23% of the subjects whom the survey
characterized as rape victims felt that they had been raped -- a
result that the university's director of sexual and domestic violence
services calls "discouraging." Equally damning was a 2000 campus rape
study conducted under the aegis of the Department of Justice. Sixty-
five percent of those whom the researchers called "completed rape"
victims and three-quarters of "attempted rape" victims said that they
did not think that their experiences were "serious enough to report."


Believing in the campus rape epidemic, it turns out, requires ignoring
women's own interpretations of their experiences.


Nevertheless, none of the weaknesses in the research has had the
slightest drag on the campus "anti-rape" movement, because the
movement is political, not empirical. In a rape culture, which
"condones physical and emotional terrorism against women as a norm,"
sexual assault will wind up underreported, argued Carole Goldberg, the
director of Yale's Sexual Harassment and Assault Resources and
Education Center, in a March 2007 newsletter. Campus rape centers and
24-hour hotlines, aided by tens of millions of dollars of federal
funding, are ubiquitous.


Needless to say, those facilities don't appear to get a tremendous
amount of use. For example, Hillary Wing-Richards, the associate
director of sexual-assault prevention at James Madison University,
said the school's campus rape "help line" gets a varying number of
calls, some of which are "request-for-information calls" -- where to
go, who to talk to and the like.


"Some months there are 10 and others, one or two," she said.


Referring to rape hotlines, risk management consultant Brett Sokolow
laments: "The problem is, on so many of our campuses, very few people
ever call. And mostly we've resigned ourselves to the underutilization
of these resources."


Federal law requires colleges to publish reported crimes affecting
their students. The numbers of reported sexual assaults -- the law
does not require their confirmation -- usually run under half a dozen
a year on private campuses, and maybe two to three times that at large
public universities.


So what reality does lie behind the rape hype? I believe that it's the
booze-fueled hookup culture of one-night, or sometimes just partial-
night, stands. Students in the '60s demanded that college
administrators stop setting rules for fraternization. The colleges
meekly complied and opened a Pandora's box of boorish, promiscuous
behavior that gets cruder each year.


This culture has been written about widely. College women -- as well
as men -- reportedly drink heavily before and during parties. For the
women, that drinking is often goal-oriented, suggests Karin Agness, a
recent University of Virginia graduate and founder of NeW, a club for
conservative university women: It frees the drinker from
responsibility and "provides an excuse for engaging in behavior that
she ordinarily wouldn't." Nights can include a meaningless sexual
encounter with a guy whom the girl may not even know.


In all these drunken couplings, there may be some deplorable instances
of forced and truly non-consensual sex. But most campus "rape" cases
exist in the gray area of seeming cooperation and tacit consent, which
is why they are almost never prosecuted criminally.


"Ninety-nine percent of all college rape cases would be thrown out of
court in a twinkling," observes University of Pennsylvania history
professor Alan Kors.


Many students hold on to the view that women usually have the power to
determine whether a campus social event ends with intercourse. A
female Rutgers student expressed a common sentiment in a university
sexual-assault survey: "When we go out to parties and I see girls and
the way they dress and the way they act ... and just the way they are,
under the influence and um, then they like accuse them of like, 'Oh
yeah, my boyfriend did this to me' or whatever, I honestly always
think it's their fault."


But suggest to a rape bureaucrat that female students share
responsibility for the outcome of an evening and that greater sexual
restraint would prevent campus "rape," and you might as well be saying
that women should don the burka.


College officials have responded to the fallout of the college sexual
revolution not with sound advice but with bizarre and anachronistic
legalisms for responding to postcoital second thoughts.


University of Virginia students, for example, may demand a formal
adjudication before the Sexual Assault Board; they can request a
"structured meeting" with the Office of the Dean of Students by filing
a formal complaint; or they can seek voluntary mediation.


Risk-management consultants travel the country to help colleges craft
legal rules for student sexual congress.


"If one partner puts a condom on the other, does that signify that
they are consenting to intercourse?" asks Alan D. Berkowitz, a campus
rape consultant. Short of guiding the thus-sheathed instrumentality to
port, it's hard to imagine a clearer signal of consent, although
Berkowitz apparently finds it "inherently ambiguous."


And even as the campus rape industry decries alleged male predation, a
parallel campus sex bureaucracy sends the message that students should
have recreational sex at every opportunity.


New York University offers workshops on orgasms and "Sex Toys for
Safer Sex" ("an evening with rubber, silicone and vibrating toys") in
residence halls and various student clubs. Brown University's Student
Services helps students answer the compelling question: "How can I
bring sex toys into my relationship?" Princeton University's "Safer
Sex Jeopardy" game for freshmen lists six types of vibrators and eight
kinds of penile toys.


Why, exactly, are schools offering workshops on orgasms? Are students
already so saturated with knowledge of the evolution of constitutional
democracy, say, that colleges should reroute their resources to
matters available on porn websites?


Remarkably, many students emerge from this farrago of mixed messages
with common sense intact.


In a November column in the University of Virginia's student
newspaper, a third-year student gave the real scoop on frat parties:
They're filled with men hoping to have sex. Rather than calling these
men "rapists," columnist Katelyn Kiley offered some practical wisdom
to the women trooping off to Virginia's fraternity row:


"It's probably a good idea to keep your clothes on, and at the end of
the night, to go home to your own bed. Interestingly enough, that's
how you get [the guys] to keep asking you back."


Maybe such young iconoclasts can take up another discredited idea:
College is for learning. Fighting male dominance or catering to the
libidinal impulses released in the 1960s are sorry substitutes for the
pursuit of knowledge.


Heather Mac Donald is a contributing editor of City Journal, from
which this is adapted.


Notice in the first paragraph;

"Could this mean that the crisis is overblown? No. It means, according to campus sexual-assault organizations, that the abuse of coeds is worse than anyone had ever
imagined. It means that consultants and counselors need more funding to persuade student rape victims to break the silence of their suffering."

Translation, if young women aren't calling in by the scores to support our campus rape crisis hysteria, then we need to bring in more counselors to convince them they've been victims of rape. We must bring in the feminists to tell young women that what they thought was consensual sex, really wasn't. That if, at any time during said incidence they felt unsure, wavered in their conviction, were in any way impaired in judgement or just regretted it afterwards.....well that was rape.

If you read how the 1 in 4 statistic (which is constantly spouted as fact and used as justication by feminsts) was reached, it's obvious how flawed that figure really is...but how many of us didn't already know that? Without any background on the biased, flawed and inaccurate methods used to reach such a number, I still always knew it was ridiculous. I know many, many women. I know one who's been raped. Now don't get me wrong, I probably know several who, according to the standards used by the feminist researchers, would be considered victims of rape, but I'm talking about real rape. I'm not talking about, 'I'm embarassed by what I did so I'll call it rape', or 'I was so drunk I don't remember what I did so I'm going to assume it was rape'. I'm talking about real honest to goodness rape. I don't know what the real statistics are on that. Feminists have so thoroughly blurred the lines of what is and isn't rape that acquiring honest to goodness accurate numbers is virtually impossible. What I do know is that it's not 25%. Not even ten or five percent. It does happen, and when it does it's wrong, but thanks to feminist rape hysteria, it's hard to know anymore.

"But suggest to a rape bureaucrat that female students share
responsibility for the outcome of an evening and that greater sexual
restraint would prevent campus "rape," and you might as well be saying
that women should don the burka."

Exactly, because, according to feminists, a woman should never bare responsibility for her actions. It's all part of the 'don't blame the victim strategy'. Suggesting that a woman should be accountable for the decisions she makes, the company she keeps or the lifestyle she pursues is no longer common sense, it's 'blaming the victim'. Any expectations of personal accountability on the part of women becomes 'blaming the victim'.

Ofcourse, the feminists are less than happy with Ms. Mac Donald's excellent assessment of the campus rape crisis. I wandered over to feministing.com to see their response and needless to say they were...displeased. They've urged their readers to contact the L.A. Times to express their outrage that such an article was published. Undoubtedly the L.A. Times will soon be bombarded by letters from hordes of angry feminists....how DARE they print the truth. Here's the link where you can write the L.A. Times. I, for one, will be writing to express how refreshing it was to see something unbiased and honest for a change.

http://www.latimes.com/services/site...2859.htmlstory





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Re: What Campus Rape Crisis?

Reported rapes on campus took a bit of a knock when the Florida NOW chapter president ( a Fl. U student) made a false report and was found out. She wasn't jailed for it of course.

My good friend Amfortas, who as you know is running for President, tells me that when he is in power he will oblige all women at university to carry personal rape insurance. Clearly they need it, what with the incidence so high - according to them. They will have to pay the premiums of course but as there are so many of them the premium will be quite low - around $250. If they report a rape there will be a large payout - around $25000. Sounds quite a money maker all around. Attractive. It should solve the poor reporting rate.

Mind you, the insurance companies will investigate each claim and the payout is contingent on it being proven beyond commercial doubt. False claims of course would be prosecuted and every false claim would increase the premiums for all the others as a function of investigatory costs. Prosecutions would be for attempted fraud and attempted grand theft larceny. The Insurance Co will be based in just one State so any attempt at fraud would be a federal crime (across state borders, you see).

And the contribution of the 'reporter' to the incident, real or false, will be taken into account in the payouts. The 'contributory' factors considered will be even more imaginative than the sort of issues that seem to constitute rape in some people's warped minds. Hey, they like imiginative factors and it cuts both ways. That's fair. Leaving it a day before reporting, for example might reduce payout by $10 grand. Eyeing up a chap at a bar and flashing a cleavage might attract another $10 grand reduction. After three or four such reductions, hey, the reporter might even go into negative payout territory and have to reimburse the Insurance Co.

There will be Policies to choose from of course. Levels of cover. With all the usual small print exclusions - and a few more.

Eventually, the false accusation rort will completely disappear. Real rape will be reinstated as a real crime. Real rapists - odd how it comes out when a real rapist is caught that the charge sheet show he committed 149 over five years - will be severely punished. I suspect there will be a complete clean-up of real rapists within a few years too as men become much more onside about catching and prosecuting real ones.

I think Amfortas is onto something although he says he will get a few bods around him in his Cabinet to sort out the detail.

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It's not about some coed getting laid one more time than she planned on.

It's about hate, the hate of men.

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I think Amfortas is onto something although he says he will get a few bods around him in his Cabinet to sort out the detail.
Which reminds me....I've been meaning to ask you something about your good friend, Amfortas....I'll send you a pm.



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Amfortas for President!

I'm joining the durn furriner party. That one idea that Percy described has more sense than the entire United States Congress. I wonder if he'd appoint me to his cabinet as Special Prosecutor of False Rape Reporters?


 
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Considering my most precious wife was ACTUALLY raped in college, I can only hold these woment in contempt. Rape is RAPE. He forced you physically or by a threat of serious bodily harm to have sex or perform a sex act on him. Period. Too drunk is not an excuse. Regretting it is not an excuse. Broadening the definition only serves to cheapen the horror my wife had to live through. I swear, If I could, I would beat these womyn to death with a phonebook.


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Re: What Campus Rape Crisis?

Here's an article and comments from the Notre Dame school paper. I thought it was a pretty good take:

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Monday, February 25, 2008

The Campus Rape Crisis


Find the attached article for an interesting analysis of the campus rape 'crisis.'

READ THE ARTICLE BEFORE READING THE REST OF THIS POST

NO SERIOUSLY, IT WON'T MAKE SENSE.

I have had friends actually raped, but at the same time, I agree with the fact that a 25% figure seems to be extraordinarily high. Rape is a push-button issue that is used to assert feminism and push other similar issues such as contraception and abortion. These issues need to be discussed rationally and honestly, not using edited numbers to prove a point. Honesty and information is required for true debate.


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3 comments:

Brandon said... This is one of those what do you think will happen if you do something stupid scenarios? I'm not blaming victims, everyone should have a right to safety and security no matter how inebriated they are. But until every male on the planet can have the honor not to take advantage of women, women need to take care of themselves and be careful. It's pretty simple.

And again the irony is that many campuses promote sex. I remember reading an editorial out of Princeton a few years ago that encouraged the ladies on campus to "get laid." It was written by a "lady." If the culture of booze, drugs and excess is allowed to flourish what do college administrators think is going to happen? There is a pretty simple rule for this: Nothing good ever happens at 3 am. By extension let's just assume that nothing good ever happens in the middle of the night by yourself in a dark place, male or female. Which means that you shouldn't be walking home from off-campus setting yourself up for a robbery. You shouldn't be passed out on some guy's futon in Alumni. You should be at home, in your own bed, joking with your roommate about all the loser guys at Notre Dame and how they have no game.
Mon Feb 25, 01:23:00 AM Rachel said... I have always wondered about the 25% college rape statistic myself--because before coming to college, I had always heard that between 1 in 3 and 1 in 4 women will be raped in their lifetime. So I'm not really sure how it computes.

All the same, I took slight issue with the author's tone/approach in that article. I don't see anything at all problematic about having a college rape center, however little 'business' it might get. Universities should provide for the well-being of their students, and the resources available there must help the people who ask for them. And comparing the statistics coming from 'rape researchers' and 'victims' just goes to show that many victims don't know how to feel about or 'classify' (as if that's something they have to do!) their experiences. It's a violation of their person, and if they can't quite put their finger on how and why they feel violated, I don't think that's a problem.

The problem I see is that when people talk about rape on college campuses, and try to trace the origins of the problem, they often end up with answers that are just plain wrong. That's because they want to safeguard their 'liberated' sexuality and 'carefree' college lifestyle from any sort of common-sense restriction. This isn't blame-the-victim, this is common sense. If you want respect, you have to ask for it--and in more than just words.

'Acquaintance' rape is common because we have created situations in our 'drinking' and 'hook-up' culture that--if they don't encourage--give an opportunity for that sort of behavior to take place. I don't think young women were being raped by acquaintances quite at often back in the days when modesty and chastity were still regarded as virtues of at least some value. Women need to understand and respect their own dignity--and ask men to do the same. That is the only real ground for fighting the problem of violence against women.
Mon Feb 25, 11:06:00 PM KellyMac said... Hows about we fight violence against PEOPLE? What, am I supposed to believe that women are the only victims of violence? Or are they the only ones who don't deserve it?

As for the 1 in 4 statistic, it is at best a dishonest and selective interpretation of whatever study they're citing. At worst it's a number radical feminism plucked out of mid-air.

The fact is that white western women are the most privileged people in the history of humankind. Feminism creates nothing but whiny, spoiled children with entitlement complexes, and the rest of society must cater to their whims or be prosecuted. The whole thing makes me sick to my stomach.

I've been raped. Physically forced to submit to penetration against my will. Are 1 in 4 women survivors of such a thing? How many do you know personally? If 25% of the female population has had the experience, then I'd say we should all know quite a number of them. Yet the stories I've heard usually amount to: "We were necking and petting and naked, and then I decided we were done and he didn't want to leave." WTF??
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Considering my most precious wife was ACTUALLY raped in college, I can only hold these woment in contempt. Rape is RAPE. He forced you physically or by a threat of serious bodily harm to have sex or perform a sex act on him. Period. Too drunk is not an excuse. Regretting it is not an excuse. Broadening the definition only serves to cheapen the horror my wife had to live through. I swear, If I could, I would beat these womyn to death with a phonebook.

Sorry to hear it Muay Thai. I hope your wife did not suffer too much.

I agree, diluting the definition of rape does cheapen the real thing.



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Considering my most precious wife was ACTUALLY raped in college, I can only hold these woment in contempt. Rape is RAPE. He forced you physically or by a threat of serious bodily harm to have sex or perform a sex act on him. Period. Too drunk is not an excuse. Regretting it is not an excuse. Broadening the definition only serves to cheapen the horror my wife had to live through. I swear, If I could, I would beat these womyn to death with a phonebook
Exactly. In their alleged defense of them, feminists have done the greatest harm to actual victims of rape. They've made rape into a joke by declaring virtually every single act of sex between a man and woman rape. Real cases of rape are greatly minimized through their distortion of things.


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