Something intrinsic has been broken inside many women today. The disturbing look into the mind of a woman preparing to end the life of her child is only one aspect of the damage of which I speak. Looking beyond the selfish and unconscionable disregard for the sanctity of life, we see this destruction of womanhood extending into motherhood, where women frequently sacrifice their children on the altar of their own selfish and deceitful interests.

I am an MRA who loves women. I get a regular box around the ears from some of my peers for declaring this from time to time, but it is essential to my mind that we men understand the value of women. It is clear that many women do not see what it is in themselves that is valuable.

I agree with Kim in all respects with what she has written here. The deep sadness I feel about women in general is reflected here. They have allowed themselves as much by ommission as commission to damage their own Integrity and Authenticity. Motherhood is the realization of a potential that women have that defines 'woman'. To reject that central female attribute is to stab oneself in the heart.

I can feel angry at the woman discussed; the one who seeks to abort a baby that she seems to hate with a vehemence that is quite out of proportion to any 'harm' that the baby might cause to her 'lifestyle'. She is a damaged soul. My anger however is weighed equally with my sadness for her. And for all of us. Her psychotic attitude is so commonplace that it is indicative of a dangerous precipice for the human race. The Abyss yawns at our feet.

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I am an MRA who loves women. I get a regular box around the ears from some of my peers for declaring this from time to time, but it is essential to my mind that we men understand the value of women. It is clear that many women do not see what it is in themselves that is valuable.

Men commit suicides at alarming rates, which of these men value themselves? In times of tragedy and/or life and death situations it is women first, so which of these men don't value the lives of women? When it comes to fatherhood, for instance, it is men that are undervalued and here, you say that it is women that don't see the value within themselves and it is men that need to understand women's value. No, not that we should all understand each other's value as well as our own value but we should all understand women's value.

We can all decide that for ourselves how valuable women and/or individual women are to our lives, thank you.

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I am an MRA who loves women. I get a regular box around the ears from some of my peers for declaring this from time to time, but it is essential to my mind that we men understand the value of women. It is clear that many women do not see what it is in themselves that is valuable.

Men commit suicides at alarming rates, which of these men value themselves? In times of tragedy and/or life and death situations it is women first, so which of these men don't value the lives of women? When it comes to fatherhood, for instance, it is men that are undervalued and here, you say that it is women that don't see the value within themselves and it is men that need to understand women's value. No, not that we should all understand each other's value as well as our own value but we should all understand women's value.

We can all decide that for ourselves how valuable women and/or individual women are to our lives, thank you.

I get your point popa, but I feel you dismiss Percy too easily, I feel. Kim's original post was re: abortion.. there is an assertion from pro-abortionists that it's a terrible thing endured.. my experience... no.. it really is a tumour, to be expunged.... and once expunged, they can go on and do it all again.. have yet to meet a woman who HAD to have an abortion because of health reasons, or otherwise.. I am not anti or pro abortion.. don't really care so much, but... the things I've heard over the years......

My statement Popadibs did not refer to men. I was talking of women.

I value men too and if I say anything at all on that matter it is to exhort men to value themselves far more highly that most do at present. Men too have lost sight of their Integrity and Authenticity in many respects.

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My statement Popadibs did not refer to men. I was talking of women.

I value men too and if I say anything at all on that matter it is to exhort men to value themselves far more highly that most do at present. Men too have lost sight of their Integrity and Authenticity in many respects.

I am an MRA who loves women. I get a regular box around the ears from some of my peers for declaring this from time to time, but it is essential to my mind that we men understand the value of women.

In the red part men are the subject and women are the predicate. You are saying it is important that men (the subject) understand the value of women. So you therefore are refering to men a little in your comment.

This sounds good on paper but not in practice. It's like saying "end violence against women" which in turn only focuses on ending violence against women.

Saying it's important that we men understand the value of women isn't necessarily bad provided that women also understand the value of men. It has to work both ways in order for there to be balance for without balance there is chaos.

Is it possible to "love" women without selling out one's brethren in the process? I'm pretty sure some of your peers you are refering to don't give you a box around the ears simply for declaring your love for women. There's a difference between declaring love for and pandering to, a big difference.

You are nit-picking, Popadibs.

There is no need.

We are in agreement.

If abortion is so traumatic why is there a rise in abortion?

These are the same people that label men deadbeat dads and they don't deserve our sympathy and understanding.

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If abortion is so traumatic why is there a rise in abortion?

These are the same people that label men deadbeat dads and they don't deserve our sympathy and understanding.

You and I both know why there is a rise in abortion......
The hints are everywhere.

So what if I don't have children!
So what if I'm branded a loser for not taking any female to bed!
Who gives a shit!!!
You really want to know why the typical females hate and fear me?

It's not that hard to figure out.....

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You and I both know why there is a rise in abortion......
The hints are everywhere.

So what if I don't have children!
So what if I'm branded a loser for not taking any female to bed!
Who gives a shit!!!
You really want to know why the typical females hate and fear me?

It's not that hard to figure out.....

We know the answer but we must shed light upon the gullible.

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We know the answer but we must shed light upon the gullible.

The gullible have made their choice to remain fearful, weak and ignorant....

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The gullible have made their choice to remain fearful, weak and ignorant....

It's funny to me how violence against women is considered unjustifiable but killing unborn babies is considered justifiable.

So hitting a woman is worst than killing a baby.

Abortions are not a right and should not be considered a right. People should have a right to scorn those that abort children. If abortion was so traumatic women wouldn't keep getting more and more abortions each year. These are the same women and men that label us deadbeats. What sympathy and empathy do they give fathers and fetuses?

Why do women whom wish to abort receive more sympathy than fathers and children that do no wrong? If we wanted to kill women's unborn babies it would be considered wrong and genocide but when women want to kill their babies it's "their body their right", no, it isn't their body, even though a child is growing inside of them.

Men are labeled deadbeats for "not raising his kids" while women receive sympathy for not raising their kids. Men don't go around parading about their right to evade responsibility for kids they create but women do and we accept it from women. Women also receive help that men wouldn't receive just because they are women.

I don't sympathize with mothers that choose to abort anymore than they sympathize for men that choose not to raise their kids. Women need to be judged by the same standards they expect men to meet and they fail epically.

Women are not and never have been the vessel of virtue and they are every bit if not more corrupt than the men they point the finger at. If they don't receive our sympathy it serves women right, why should women receive sympathy for the children they wish to kill?

If a man wanted his child to die for the same reasons he'd be considered a monster.

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It's funny to me how violence against women is considered unjustifiable but killing unborn babies is considered justifiable.

So hitting a woman is worst than killing a baby.

Abortions are not a right and should not be considered a right. People should have a right to scorn those that abort children. If abortion was so traumatic women wouldn't keep getting more and more abortions each year. These are the same women and men that label us deadbeats. What sympathy and empathy do they give fathers and fetuses?

Why do women whom wish to abort receive more sympathy than fathers and children that do no wrong? If we wanted to kill women's unborn babies it would be considered wrong and genocide but when women want to kill their babies it's "their body their right", no, it isn't their body, even though a child is growing inside of them.

Men are labeled deadbeats for "not raising his kids" while women receive sympathy for not raising their kids. Men don't go around parading about their right to evade responsibility for kids they create but women do and we accept it from women. Women also receive help that men wouldn't receive just because they are women.

I don't sympathize with mothers that choose to abort anymore than they sympathize for men that choose not to raise their kids. Women need to be judged by the same standards they expect men to meet and they fail epically.
Women are not and never have been the vessel of virtue and they are every bit if not more corrupt than the men they point the finger at. If they don't receive our sympathy it serves women right, why should women receive sympathy for the children they wish to kill?

If a man wanted his child to die for the same reasons he'd be considered a monster.

Did you know that breast cancer is linked to abortion?
Don't worry!
You won't find any of the media morons mentioning it anytime soon!

Partying mum 'left toddler home alone'


""Friday Dec 11, 2009
A Brisbane woman went drinking at a nightclub with friends while her three-year-old son was left at home alone, a court has heard.""

aaaaah yes the sanctity of motherhood the nurturing !!

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Yesterday, I was perusing the web in search of a prenatal book I'd once read to recommend to a newly pregnant friend of mine. In my search, I stumbled across a blog entitled, "What To Expect When You're Aborting"......a 'clever' word play on the popular prenatal guide, 'What To Expect When You're Expecting'. The blog went through and documented the 23 year old author's experience of getting pregnant and having an abortion. You might expect accounts of anguish and fears, indecision, remorse and guilt.....not so. The author named the baby growing inside her "Tumor". On the day of her abortion she asked to see the sonogram that had been taken of her baby and related,

"This was not my Juno moment, where all of a sudden I bit my lower lip and recognized the “life” inside of me. If I could have I would have ripped the ******* thing out with my bear hands on the spot. It just freaked me out that it had a definitive shape. That maybe its size would make it harder to yank out. Or that my beautifully circular womb would get banged up in the process."

On the way into the abortion clinic she encountered pro-life demonstrators and related how,

"A carbuncular high school girl kept my pace and told me “her group” had the funds to support my baby. I wanted to tell her that I hoped it was twins so I could doubly break her blessed heart."

It was a sick and ugly experience, reading through that blog. One that left me feeling dirty and contaminated. What was so appalling was the complete lack of humanity and sanctity for life.

While I oppose abortion, and consider it to be a great and telling evil of our times, I can still find it in my heart to empathize with the young woman who feels she has no other choice and is devastated by her decision. I want to hold her hand and tell her that it isn't that bad, that she has no idea of the miracle of seeing a new life born, the joy she'll experience, the way that life will utterly and completely change her....into someone better than she was before......or at least help her to understand the value of life, to appreciate the gift she'd be giving to somebody else by allowing them to adopt her child; somebody who appreciated and understood the value of that life.

With this woman.....I have nothing to say. I'm only left to bear witness to the damage that has been done in society by feminism. The destruction that has been wrought upon the female conscience and soul.

I don't care if there are women who choose not to be mothers. What I do care about is the destruction of motherhood. I care about the way the creation of life has been devalued to the point of apathy, contempt, disdain and even mockery. Regardless of whether or not a woman chooses to take upon herself the mantle of motherhood, it should always be treated as it is.......a great privilege and a sacred responsibility.

Something intrinsic has been broken inside many women today. The disturbing look into the mind of a woman preparing to end the life of her child is only one aspect of the damage of which I speak. Looking beyond the selfish and unconscionable disregard for the sanctity of life, we see this destruction of womanhood extending into motherhood, where women frequently sacrifice their children on the altar of their own selfish and deceitful interests.

Motherhood has always been a generally selfless calling, one in which the needs of her children are placed above her own, where the welfare of her children supercedes her own welfare. We seldom see this selflessness in our family court systems today, where children are used as pawns to exact revenge and maintain control over ex-husbands, nor is it in evidence when women break apart their marriages and families because they aren't happy, fulfilled or living the fairy tale existence they'd imagined.

Motherhood stands right in line with today's other casualities; fatherhood, families, honesty, integrity, selflessness.....everything valuable and of worth in exchange for that which is corrupt, vile and worthless.

With that said, I add to Integrity and Honesty, the value of Motherhood to my Code For Women. There is nothing greater that a woman can be than a good mother. No matter what aspirations she has or what heights she attains outside of it, there is nowhere a woman can do more good (or damage) than in the lives of her children and within her own home.


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"""This was not my Juno moment, where all of a sudden I bit my lower lip and recognized the “life” inside of me. If I could have I would have ripped the ******* thing out with my bear hands on the spot. It just freaked me out that it had a definitive shape. That maybe its size would make it harder to yank out. Or that my beautifully circular womb would get banged up in the process."""

I read this like the rantings of a pyschopath !

obvioysly she has more respect for her turds than she had for the "life" within

of course abortion "doctors" love her kind and wax wealthy servicing them

""..banged up in the process.""" ""

aaah yes ! she remembers that joyful union

this is how new age gals think - forty years of trashing the nuclear family on the hoof