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Let's Talk About Double Standards

My husband occassionally watches Fox News's Red Eye. For those of you who have never seen it, it's an irreverant version of the news that likes to thumb it's nose at the PCism that's prevalent in U.S. media and society. They always have guests on the show and a frequent guest judge is one Jeanine Pirro who will also be hosting an upcoming CW show "Judge Pirro".

On tonight's Red Eye, which I was half listening to while working on my laptop, they started discussing Lorena Bobbitt and the fact that she's currently engaged. I'm sure we're all familiar with the story of Ms. Bobbitt (feminism's poster child) and how she severed her sleeping husband's penis with a kitchen knife after which she hopped in her car, went for a drive and tossed the severed genitalia out into a field. For those who don't remember.....Ms. Bobbitt was found not guilty by reason of temporary insanity.

As the panel members discussed some of the details of Ms. Bobbitt's current life and upcoming wedding, the show's host mentioned that if a man had mutilated a woman in the same fashion that Ms. Bobbitt mutilated her husband, that man would be locked away for life. His question was, "Do I smell a double standard" here? Judge Jeanine Pirro's response? "And well he should be. I think that's the way the law is. I think that women should be able to do that and get away with it."

At this point, I looked at my husband (bearing in mind that this program intermingles a lot of irreverant comedy with it's news) and asked incredulously, "Is she kidding?". There was no need for a response because her next comments were, "What I don't understand, Greg, is that the jury found her guilty of temporary insanity. As someone who has worked with battered women for years, that's not insanity, that's reality. That's what she needed to do to protect herself."

Nope, she wasn't kidding, not in the least. Keep in mind that Ms. Pirro served as a county judge before serving as the elected District Attorney of Westchester County in New York for twelve years. Considering Ms. Pirro's version of justice, the following should come as little surprise,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanine_Pirro
In 1989 Jeffery Deskovic was convicted in the murder of 15-year-old fellow student Angela Correa. He proclaimed his innocence on several occasions, but was denied a reopening of the case by then-DA Pirro. In 2006, the current DA authorized a DNA test which led to Deskovic's exoneration. Had Pirro agreed to a relatively simple test, Deskovic would have been freed years before his actual exoneration. Instead, she maintained that the test wasn't necessary, and Deskovic spent 16 years in a prison for a crime he did not commit.
Scary isn't it? Scary that such a woman was responsible for dealing out "justice" since she became assistant D.A. in 1978. Prior to this evening, I could only imagine the worst, most rabid of man-hating feminists spouting such misandry, yet here we have a woman, a former judge, someone who's ran for the United States Senate, saying it on national television.

Human genitalia is human genitalia; view it as you see fit, call it sacred, call it private, make jokes about it......if it's a horrific crime to mutilate it, then it's a horrific crime. The severity of that crime should never vary depending on the gender of the person it's committed against....how disgusting that in today's society, to many people, people like Ms. Pirro, it does.

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Re: Let's Talk About Double Standards

Thats really disgusting....on a side note...can someone tell me what PC (as in ...that likes to thumb it's nose at the PCism that's prevalent...) means?



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Re: Let's Talk About Double Standards

PC means Political Correctness.


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Scary isn't it? Scary that such a woman was responsible for dealing out "justice" since she became assistant D.A. in 1978. Prior to this evening, I could only imagine the worst, most rabid of man-hating feminists spouting such misandry, yet here we have a woman, a former judge, someone who's ran for the United States Senate, saying it on national television.
It certainly is scary. And a lot more.

She isn't an oddball. She is the 'norm' as far as I can tell. From the viewpoint of an ordinary chap who has loved women for most of his life, I can tell you that the feelings I have are far more complex than simply 'scared'. I am heartily saddened. I am disgusted, disappointed. Oddly, I remain - in a small part of my mind - incredulous. I have doubts about my previous mindfulness and view of women, so often these days does it get shown up as a mere fantasy, a hope, an illusion.

Those that can hold the view that this woman has - millions of women like her - are sick in the head. They are cruel, barbaric even, and don't even recognise it. The level of insight they have into themselves is so small as to be discounted as accidental when it shows itself very occasionally. And - get this - she, along with the millions of others, will no doubt claim some special sensitivity and 'empathy', 'as a woman'. Hah !

She will resist any claim that she is a 'man-hater'. I doubt she has even met Mr Bobbit, the man whose penis was cut off. I doubt she would treat him with any respect though. He's a man. Her hatred isn't acknowledged but is there infront of everyones eyes and ears, permanantly.

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Re: Let's Talk About Double Standards

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I'm sure we're all familiar with the story of Ms. Bobbitt (feminism's poster child) and how she severed her sleeping husband's penis with a kitchen knife after which she hopped in her car, went for a drive and tossed the severed genitalia out into a field. For those who don't remember.....Ms. Bobbitt was found not guilty by reason of temporary insanity.
O.K. Kim, can you spare the gory details, we are men here... I don't know about others but I tend to quiver in my seat when I read such specifics.

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"And well he should be. I think that's the way the law is. I think that women should be able to do that and get away with it."
Dear Reichsführer Pirro definitely is...

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"What I don't understand, Greg, is that the jury found her guilty of temporary insanity. As someone who has worked with battered women for years, that's not insanity, that's reality. That's what she needed to do to protect herself."
...a womyn of high moral standards with a firm grasp on reality....

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanine_Pirro
In 1989 Jeffery Deskovic was convicted in the murder of 15-year-old fellow student Angela Correa. He proclaimed his innocence on several occasions, but was denied a reopening of the case by then-DA Pirro. In 2006, the current DA authorized a DNA test which led to Deskovic's exoneration. Had Pirro agreed to a relatively simple test, Deskovic would have been freed years before his actual exoneration. Instead, she maintained that the test wasn't necessary, and Deskovic spent 16 years in a prison for a crime he did not commit.

...and fairness. Just what Justice should be all about!

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Pull out the rope boys, there's a gonna be a lynchin'!

Hang 'em high, hang the judge!

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Thats really disgusting....on a side note...can someone tell me what PC (as in ...that likes to thumb it's nose at the PCism that's prevalent...) means?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correct

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Ruth Perry traces the term back to Mao's Little Red Book. According to Perry, the term was later adopted by the radical left in the 1960s, initially seriously and later ironically, as a self-criticism of dogmatic attitudes. In the 1990s, because of the term's association with radical politics and communist censorship, it was used by the political right in the United States to discredit the Old and New Left.


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Re: Let's Talk About Double Standards

Here is a red eye clip where they talk about the stress gender gap
and their guest is well known for shunning PC attitudes.



 
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Re: Let's Talk About Double Standards

Johnny Rotten: "When we were young, we knew the world was awful, but we just got on with it"

Brilliant.


 
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Re: Let's Talk About Double Standards

she is engaged

her fiancee must be a masochist

there are some weird inverted folk in this world

there was a guy in Germany some years ago who advertised on the internet that he was looking for a volunteer who would agree to be eaten

he got a response and the guy came over and the process began

somebody reported this bizarre blog and the police eventually caught up with the cannibal

he had eaten 20 Kg of the volunteer and dumped the remains in his yard

later he was charged with murder but he defended himself that the victim was a volunteer

the last I heard was that the cannibal was given eight years in gaol

however i expect that this would have been appealed by the state


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Re: Let's Talk About Double Standards

It's possible that someone as intelligent as Judge Pirro realizes the untruth of what she's saying yet continues for political reasons, either for her own career or for the larger feminist lobby

the PC crowd uses exaggeration and hyperbole all the time, seemingly because they believe that the end justifies the means: ie. lying is okay for a good cause (promoting women's rights)



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Re: Let's Talk About Double Standards

Most women make terrible judges and poor judgement calls. This one certainly has no business being a judge.

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Thomas Jefferson once said "It takes time to persuade men to do even what is for their own good."

Feminuts are stupid, throw some common sense at them. They won't know what hit them.