This is a discussion on Is This Justice? within the Equal but Different forums, part of the Blogging Hub category; I'm going to tell you a story about a young couple that used to live by me. They were married ...
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I'm going to tell you a story about a young couple that used to live by me. They were married quite young and had two small boys, a toddler and a newborn. The husband met a girl through his work and ended up sleeping with her. The girl had told him that she was 18. She wasn't. She was sixteen and she went to his boss and threatened to sue them. The company, looking after their own best interests, fired the man and informed the authorities. The D.A., although he had spoken to the girl and knew she had lied about her age (I'm guessing she became honest at this point because there didn't appear to be a financial opportunity any longer) decided to press charges. My neighbor was prosecuted and convicted of sex crimes and, following a stint in jail, he had to move out of his house away from his boys because he couldn't live in the same house as minors. He was only allowed to see them on supervised visits. His wife, heartbroken and devastated though she was, recognized it was a one time thing and decided to try and work things out. Unfortunately, living in seperate homes because your husband is a convicted felon and considered a sexual predator, isn't exactly conducive to 'working things out' and they did, eventually, divorce. The father can see his kids again, but now they live in seperate states and it's every other weekend and holidays. They had to sell their house and their cars and everything they'd worked hard to acquire because the kinds of jobs he could get with a felony sex crime on his record didn't make it possible for them to pay the bills. I'm sure there's at least one person out there who would read this and say, "Well, that's what he gets for cheating". For the record, I am completely against infidelity. Faithfulness and loyalty are two qualities I value dearly. What he did was wrong...but did his indiscretion warrant the ruining of his life? Keep in mind that if the girl had been 18, as she'd claimed, what he would have been left to deal with was his own guilt over his infidelity. Instead, he lost everything, his current job, his career, his home, his family.... Summary...aided by the D.A., a scheming, immoral girl was allowed to destroy a family and a man's life because that translates as "justice" in our legal system. More... "I wanted you to see what real courage is, instead of getting the idea that courage is a man with a gun in his hand. It's when you know you're licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what. You rarely win, but sometimes you do." - Harper Lee, To Kill a Mockingbird http://equalbutdifferent.blogspot.com/ | ||||
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The Injustice System stopped making a pretense about "justice" many years ago. Its not about justice. It's about destroying as many men as they can. The Injustice System is a great evil that carries on the very violent and very destructive feminazi war on men. The number of men being destroyed far exceeds the medieval witch hunts, and the number will soon exceed the WW II Holocaust. They are destroyed for being men as WWII victims were destroyed for being Jews. The evil of the Injustice System can not be overstated. The story of that young family is typical of millions. Blessings Bob | |||
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A reasonable question deserves a reasoned answer. There are consequences to behaviour which are often just not anticipated. The man did wrong. Now we may point to immorality as a factor and many would dismiss it, but immorality is at the root. It is also the stem of this case. As a grown person he knows the difference between right and wrong at least as well as a ten year old. So I cannot support the idea that the man should not suffer the consequences of his immoral action. Consequences are not simply a 'social' issue, but a Law of Nature. An action is immoral if it breaks a Natural Law as affects the nature of human beings. But then there is Law of Man. The law provides for an age of consent and he took the young girl's word - so he claims. As with ignoring immorality so he also ignored rationality. He took the word of a young girl and his experience ought to have alerted him to at least the possibility that she was engaging in impression management in an immoral way herself. And as it transpires, she was. So she is culpable too. It does not lessen his. He failed to protect himself. She lied. He was complicit in the lie, willingly, wantingly. As for the extent of the 'Justice', clearly that has little to do with rationality. It ignored shared culpability. It was applied with hysterical vigour. It ignored the girl's culpability in a biased manner. Therefore in three ways at least rendering itself Unjust. The consequences of a 'crime' ought to be visited on the criminal; that is gainsaid. As far as is reasonable, the consequences ought not to unduly damage innocent parties. The wife and children were unduly and avoidably damaged. This is Unjust. Four ways, unjust. A legal system that applies 'justice' in an Unjust manner is culpable itself. Justice requires that those involved in determining resonable and reasoned Justice suffer consequences of their failure to do right. That brings us back to the moral issue. His failure was a moral failure. So was the legal systems failure. The consequences are visited upon innocents.
I have tried all my life to leave the place better than I found it. But there are 6 billion other buggers out there messing it up. I am outnumbered. But... YOU don't just make a difference, you make THE difference. ![]() | ||||
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How old has a girl to be, to give consent, when approached by a man, OR if she goes ahead talking to boys, how young has she to be, that the man only should be blamed? Here in Japan, often angrily mentioned by US-feminists, in this case this age-limit would be only 13 - however in Spain, which is not bashed but glorified because its feminist politics, it is also 13. In Austria in my native country it is 14, also in Hungaria, our neighbozr country, it is 14, some European countries have 15, some even 16. But I do not know even one Western country, which would consider 18 except USA. Therefore such accusations outside of USA are rare. Together with long prison sentences for sex-crimes from man to woman, even for boys below 18 with consenting teenager-girls below 18, this is resulting in many statutory rape charges - even for oral sex (10 years for a 17 y.o. boy with a consenting 15 y.o. girl). In USA there are obviously no age-limits for boys regarding sex-crimes. This is even resulting in idiotic accusations considering sexual harassment, I remember cases, where the boy was 4 (! yes four years old!), 5 y.o. 6.y.o. and even rape charges against boys 9 or 10 y.o.... A 12 y. o. boy giving a girl of same age a slap on her behind is a sex-criminal... The most idiotic case I heard about was a marriage between a 17 y.o. boy and a 14 y.o. girl - which was legal in that US-state. Interesting to notice, that the marriage was working out. 3 years later they travelled to another US-state and were checking into a hotel-room. The young man was arrested, facing rape charges with the valid marriage certificate in his hand. 'Statutory spousal rape' ![]() Your question: Is this justice? Yes, it is justice, as it is all exactly written in the laws of that concerning US-state. Police and judges have to follow that laws... However it is totally confusing and contradictory, as every US-state has other regulations. What is legal here, is totally illegal 5 miles over the border, like if entering another foreign country. | |||
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