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    I was reading through the blog, Rex Patriarch, when I saw a comment I just had to respond to. It would appear that the blog owner has disabled comments to anyone who isn't a team member, SO, since I can't stand to let such distortion and misandry go without responding......here is the comment along with my response to it.

    Prepare yourself for an example of feminist indoctrination at it's finest.

    http://rexpatriarch.blogspot.com/200...ant-truce.html



    julianreal said...

    I think we all know what happened and is still happening to Indigenous people all over the planet: white men and our values, industries, and institutions are killing them, genocidally. And white men are also systematically raping Indigenous women. See this for more:

    http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1096415046

    What is your humanitarian response to these atrocities?

    In what institutions, in what social venues, in what regions of North America, in your view, do "women rule over men"? I am eager to hear your answer.

    As for where men get to speak like this: have you looked at the pornography industry in the last thirtyfive years; men have been putting down women there in every conceivable way, degrading women, raping women, pretending to rape women, cumming on women's faces, gang-banging women, treating women of color like sh*t in particularly
    racist and misogynist ways. Often and routinely over these many years, the pornographers (I'm here I'm talking about the big fellas: the white corporate pimps, not someone at home alone or with a partner using their webcam) make feminists and feminism the targets of this scorn, contempt, and defamation: that's a multi-billion dollar a year industry. I ask this in earnestness: can you name for me one multi-billion dollar a year industry that promotes (accurately) the perspectives of radical feminists? Because I can't, and I've looked.

    Practically every woman I know has been seriously harmed physically, emotionally, and sexually by a man or by several men, often within their own families of origin: I'm not a youngster, and this means dozens and dozens of women, just those women to whom I am personally connected. One woman friend was molested by three different men over one summer when she was nine years old. Another woman was raped by her father, older brothers, and male cousins when she was a girl. My female dental hygienist was murdered by her ex-boyfriend; he came to her home when she was alone and killed her.

    I also know boys who have been raped or molested or assaulted by men: again, their numbers are in the dozens, but approximately half as large as the population of females harmed by men in these ways.

    Do you know even five women who have been charged with rape, incest, child molestation, criminal battery, women who have detained boys or men in their basements as sexual slaves, women who have trafficked in boys and men for the purposes of sexual gratification, at the expense of the humanity of those so used and abused?

    I see men treat one another like sh*t often, beating each other up outside of bars, shouting and threatening each other: white men threatening and discriminating against men of color; heterosexual men bullying and beating gay men. I'm curious why you don't see men as a significant population of man-haters.

    I honestly (I'm being entirely serious here) know of not one single woman who hates men. Not one. I know women who fear men, based on past experiences; I know women who fight for justice for women, for women to be free from rapist culture, from pornographic culture, from a dominant culture in which Indigenous North American women can be raped by white men without any recourse. I can't "reverse" this phenomenon and match it to reality. Could you name the social experiences, on a large scale, that lead you to see the world this way?

    Regarding your use of the term "feminazi": Given social-political reality, aren't white men "the Nazis," and women of all ethnicities more like "European Jews" than the other way around? In what sense do feminists in North America control the media, run state police forces, direct the military, and form an unfathomably inhumane dictatorship, as Hitler did? What sense does it make to call any feminists "Nazis"? Please explain this to me. (Thank you.)

    How have you been harmed, personally, by women?

    I look forward to your response. Thanks for engaging on this topic. I appreciate your willingness to keep the dialogue open.

    Julian

    July 24, 2008 11:13 AM



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    @Julianreal

    While I agree that this is probably pointless, I can't help but respond to some of your assertions, in particular the ones concerning pornography.

    I'm always curious how the kind of sex being performed in pornography becomes oppression of women by men. The women choose to work in the sex industry. They choose to participate in the manner of sex being performed within the films.

    Undergo the unsavory experience of visiting a few blogs by women who are into humiliation and degradation. You'll find that many rape fantasy stories and sites have a large female following.

    All most of your allegations prove is that there is a darker side to human nature.

    For every man who has committed acts of rape or violence, there is a woman who has committed an equally despicable act. All human beings have a capacity for evil. It is a feminist fallacy that men hold a monopoly on that evil.

    Under the current clime of female empowerment without corresponding accountability, I would argue that women are more and more frequently guilty of immoral and dishonest behavior. I would say the most distinctive difference between the evil committed by men and women is that women are largely allowed to commit it with impunity. The bad behavior of men is advertised and denounced by every availiable medium while the bad behavior of women is ignored, minimized or justified.

    You may not know any women who will state that they hate men, but we live in an environment that embraces and promotes hatred of men, evidenced quite clearly by your post.

    It's a very small percentage of men who are rapists, murderers or pedophiles, yet you would have us believe that society is rife with them and women are living in a state of terror waiting to be victimized by them.

    I don't once hear you allude to the type of men I know, the type of men that most men are. There's no reference to husbands and fathers who devote their lives to their families. No mention of soldiers or firefighters who sacrifice themselves for the lives and freedoms of others. No mention of the men who quietly go about their lives trying to leave the world a better place than how they found it.

    THESE are the type of men I know. The type of men who you malign and villify by collectively lumping them with rapists,murderers and pedophiles. The type of men whose sacrifices and goodness you discount and brush off as you quickly jump back to trying to show how inherently evil men are simply by virtue of their gender.

    More...
    "Every noble impulse, every unselfish expression of love; every brave suffering for the right; every surrender of self to something higher than self; every loyalty to an ideal; every unselfish devotion to principle; every helpfulness to humanity; every act of self-control; every fine courage of the soul, undefeated by pretense or policy, but by being, doing, and living of good for the very good’s sake—that is spirituality." -David O. McKay

    For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Ephesians 6:12

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    EXCELLENT post, Kim!

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    """""Practically every woman I know has been seriously harmed physically, emotionally, and sexually by a man or by several men,""""""""""

    this is a salient plank of feminitism ie the victim hood black armband line designed to elicit sympathy for the slack and idle feminits

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    You go girl! You show her/them the real facts and evidence of what we have come to understand. Even if she/they don't listen, it might strike some doubt in their minds. That's all it takes.

    You got rep.

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    Thank you everyone, and thanks for the rep!
    "Every noble impulse, every unselfish expression of love; every brave suffering for the right; every surrender of self to something higher than self; every loyalty to an ideal; every unselfish devotion to principle; every helpfulness to humanity; every act of self-control; every fine courage of the soul, undefeated by pretense or policy, but by being, doing, and living of good for the very good’s sake—that is spirituality." -David O. McKay

    For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Ephesians 6:12

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    The self-flagellation by men such as Julianreal is a constant puzzlement. He decries and villifies men, lumping all in with/as rapists and prnographers, as Kim points out, but what sort of man does he see himself as?

    Does he distinguish himself from the mass of evil men, who he sees as pretty well every man that walked? And in what way?

    Perhaps he sees himself as a 'new man', somehow genetically different from his penis wielding fellows. Maybe he sees himself as having 'risen above' other men through his own appreciation of feminism. He doesn't mention himself or big-note his difference, so I don't see a narcissism. He curries favour with 'women', perhaps seeing all women as victims. It must come as a bit of a shock to such men finding a woman such as Kim who say's 'hold on a bit; I see very different men around me'.

    He exhibits a cognitive strategy that seems common amongst feminists: Appear to be 'morally superior' by knocking everyone else down.
    I have tried all my life to leave the place better than I found it.

    But there are 7 billion other buggers out there messing it up.

    I am outnumbered.

    But...

    YOU don't just make a difference,

    you make THE difference.

    And some of you are Awesome - you know who you are.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Percy View Post
    The self-flagellation by men such as Julianreal is a constant puzzlement. He decries and villifies men, lumping all in with/as rapists and prnographers, as Kim points out, but what sort of man does he see himself as?

    Does he distinguish himself from the mass of evil men, who he sees as pretty well every man that walked? And in what way?

    Perhaps he sees himself as a 'new man', somehow genetically different from his penis wielding fellows. Maybe he sees himself as having 'risen above' other men through his own appreciation of feminism. He doesn't mention himself or big-note his difference, so I don't see a narcissism. He curries favour with 'women', perhaps seeing all women as victims. It must come as a bit of a shock to such men finding a woman such as Kim who say's 'hold on a bit; I see very different men around me'.

    He exhibits a cognitive strategy that seems common amongst feminists: Appear to be 'morally superior' by knocking everyone else down.
    These sort of guys are the extreme version of the nice guy who hates the jerk/arsehole/jock etc for getting women when he, the nice guy, cannot. The hatred is just a form of bitter jealousy. These manginas you are referring to are an extension of the above sort of guys. As their failures with women and their jealousy accrues they begin to loathe the idea of being a man. They cannot understand why they have no success with women, despite doing everything the woman she wants done, whereas the man who doesn't listen to women want and doesn't treat them special simply because their last chromosome is an X, succeeds with women. These guys, being jealous and feeling emasculated hope to prove themselves by impressing women by taking up their cause and literally turning against their own manhood. They lack the masculinity to prove themselves as men so they go to the extreme to try and prove themselves the opposite. How many of these guys, who all pretend to be a woman's friend and act asexual, secretly want to be loved (or at least) have sex with the woman they hang around? To the woman though such a person is either a sexless child, some sort of oddity, or something akin to a pet. Unfair as this may be, life isn't inherently fair anyway.All the above (with the exception of the last line) is just my take on things.

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    Some of you here may not 'like' me anymore, for my comments within the following propaganda hit piece against White men, penned by a hateful jewish feminist, posing as an unbiased 'journalist', but these comments reflect a grim reality. Our nations have been taken over by an elite group of nation wreckers. I use this term, to avoid being slurred and labled.

    Do yourselves a favor and research who the nation wreckers originally were and still are, behind feminism.
    The cast list reads like a phone book from Tel Aviv...

    julianreal said...

    I think we all know what happened and is still happening to Indigenous people all over the planet: white men and our values, industries, and institutions are killing them, genocidally. And white men are also systematically raping Indigenous women. See this for more:
    So in other words, Men of different races never do this. Just White Men...

    http://www.indiancountry.com/content.cfm?id=1096415046

    What is your humanitarian response to these atrocities?
    To return a free media to our people, by removing it from hacks like you.

    In what institutions, in what social venues, in what regions of North America, in your view, do "women rule over men"? I am eager to hear your answer. Practically every area of life from cradle to grave. Look around, honey.

    As for where men get to speak like this: have you looked at the pornography industry in the last thirtyfive years; men have been putting down women there in every conceivable way, degrading women, raping women, pretending to rape women, cumming on women's faces, gang-banging women, treating women of color like sh*t in particularly
    racist and misogynist ways. Often and routinely over these many years, the pornographers (I'm here I'm talking about the big fellas: the white (Actually they're primarily jewish . A little jewish deception on this fine author's part.) corporate pimps, not someone at home alone or with a partner using their webcam) make feminists and feminism the targets of this scorn, contempt, and defamation: that's a multi-billion dollar a year industry. I ask this in earnestness: can you name for me one multi-billion dollar a year industry that promotes (accurately) the perspectives of radical feminists? Because I can't, and I've looked. Have you ever considered that this is because no one other than hateful jewish succubi like yourself, wants to support such a hateful and destructive point of view. Frankly I'm surprised at your surprise over normal, sane peoples' natural tendency towards revulsion, when it comes to the tennets of radical feminsm.

    Practically every woman I know has been seriously harmed physically, emotionally, and sexually by a man or by several men, often within their own families of origin: I'm not a youngster, and this means dozens and dozens of women, just those women to whom I am personally connected. One woman friend was molested by three different men over one summer when she was nine years old. Another woman was raped by her father, older brothers, and male cousins when she was a girl. My female dental hygienist was murdered by her ex-boyfriend; he came to her home when she was alone and killed her. And gawd knows wymyn never, ever lie about such things. Right?

    I also know boys who have been raped or molested or assaulted by men: again, their numbers are in the dozens, but approximately half as large as the population of females harmed by men in these ways.
    Do you also know any of the uncounted numbers of wymyn who do the exact same thing to their underage male charges, all the time, all over the globe? Probably not because you're more interested in cases of "rape" than "seduction". Isn't that right?

    Do you know even five women who have been charged with rape, incest, child molestation, criminal battery, women who have detained boys or men in their basements as sexual slaves, women who have trafficked in boys and men for the purposes of sexual gratification, at the expense of the humanity of those so used and abused? No, because society hides, hushes, protects and coddles wymyn, like they're a buch of five year olds. Another blessing upon society, for which we can all thank feminists.

    I see men treat one another like sh*t often, beating each other up outside of bars, shouting and threatening each other: white men threatening and discriminating against men of color; heterosexual men bullying and beating gay men. I'm curious why you don't see men as a significant population of man-haters. But you seem more curious about White men doing these things. Are you saying males of other races are less violent than WHites? I honestly (I'm being entirely serious here) know of not one single woman who hates men. Not one. Once again, seriously you, being a womyn, would never, ever lie about such a thing either... I know women who fear men, based on past experiences; I know women who fight for justice for women, for women to be free from rapist culture, from pornographic culture, from a dominant culture in which Indigenous North American women can be raped by white men without any recourse. I can't "reverse" this phenomenon and match it to reality. Because your sense of reality is so distorted, you don't even know what that is. Could you name the social experiences, on a large scale, that lead you to see the world this way? Let's see, feminist marches/power grabbing, snivel rights marches/power grabbing, jewish led communist takeovers of White nations, subjugation and systematic government sponsored destruction of White men, the nuclear family and White heritage, and so on, and so forth.

    Regarding your use of the term "feminazi": Given social-political reality, aren't white men "the Nazis," and women of all ethnicities more like "European Jews" than the other way around? Only if you're a twisted, decietful, jewish "journalist" trying to pass of your propaganda against White Men and culture. In what sense do feminists in North America control the media, run state police forces, direct the military, and form an unfathomably inhumane dictatorship, as Hitler did? What sense does it make to call any feminists "Nazis"? Please explain this to me. (Thank you.) If you have to ask that question, you are probably jewish.

    How have you been harmed, personally, by women? There simply isn't enough bandwidth.

    I look forward to your response. Thanks for engaging on this topic. I appreciate your willingness to keep the dialogue open.
    As if this poison penned hack could ever seriously "dialouge" about anything other than it'z own twisted anti-White Male worldview.

    Julian

    July 24, 2008 11:13 AM
    As I said, the crybabies and lemmings here will probably decry me with all the usual jewish coined lables including, but not limited to; "racist", "hater", "bigot" and mysogynist, but you know what? I don't really care. The things I post are the truth, and nothing can change that. Our situation as Men, or more importantly as this "author" suggests, WHite Men, is precarious. Even desperate. Right now wymyn hold all the cards, because our grandfathers let "people' like bella abzug, and gloria stienem take them from them willingly. They willingly gave wymyn the same opportunities as Men,in good faith. In return, my generation and that of my sons and grandsons, must face a world where wymyn may do as they please, especially at the cost and destruction of men. It must end and that ending begins with the truth.

    Good day.
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    You're a feminist? Isn't that cute?

    A woman's promise is written in water.

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    I'll accept that Jews secretly run the world if you accept that Jews are smarter than everyone else
    Feminism = Fear + Flattery

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    I'll accept that Jews secretly run the world if you accept that Jews are smarter than everyone else
    If by smarter, you mean: better able to worm their way into positions of power, money and influence, craftier when it comes to cheating, and more clever when garnering sympathy for themselves as perpetual victims of evil White racism, specifically evil White Nazi racism, which in turn makes them unaccountable for their many crimes against humanity, then I'll accept that.

    One would think that with all those smarts that they're always bragging about, the jews would have made a better world for everyone else.

    Alas, it seems they use their 'intellect' only for the ends I listed.

    Is it good for jews? If so, it sucks for everybody else...
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    When some womyn is bitching about what a villian her ex was, understand that in six months, that villian will be you.

    You're a feminist? Isn't that cute?

    A woman's promise is written in water.

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    In the early days of the feminist movement, there were some worthy goals---e.g., opening up carfeer opportunities for girls and women who had been shut out of some professions simply because of their sex. There is no reason a young woman should not aspire to be for example a physician or a lawyer.
    However at the outset---and even today to a considerable extent---the movement ("women's liberation" was popular name for it) was dominated by lesbians who did and do in fact hate men. They hate men's bodies, they hate men's superior physical strfength, they hate men's sexual desires and their impulse to act on them. Of course there are some women in the feminist organizations who do not hate men, but even they tend to go along with anti-male policies.
    There have been so many ramifications to this. Permit me to cite a few, starting with affirmative action. At the time of my graduation from University with a major in mathematics, the recruiters who came to campus to interview graduating seniors were looking to hire women---their firms had quotas to fill (though the word "quota" was seldom invoked) Result? The women found positions almost immediately, while many of the guys were left looking---this in spite of the fact that some of the men had much better academic records than the women.
    Similarly, the Department of Mathematics itself was under pressure from the administration to hire women professors. This was true all over the country. Women PhDs in mathematics could write their own ticket; not so with the males. I wish there were a similar concern to find more male teachers for elementary and secondary schools, where, at least in the U.S., women teachers outnumber the men by a huge majority, and male teachers are virtually nonexistent in the primary grades where young boys could benefit from a male role model. But don't expect the fems to be concerned about this. "Affirmative action" works in only one direction, thank you.
    The Rhodes Scholarships (to study at the University of Oxford) are among the most prestigious. They were established by the will of Cecil Rhodes, and under the terms of the will were to be awarded to qualifying males. In 1977 however women became eligible for these awards. So much for respecting the terms of a will! Also in the area of academe, the feminists were successful in converting every males-only university in the U.S. to co-ed status, but fought a similar conversion at females-only schools (a few of which still exist to this day).
    In our high school sports progam, where I help with coaching, we are now required to spend as much on girls' sports as on boys' even though there are far fewer girls interesed in competitive sports. At the federal level there is even a law ("Title 1" I think it is called) that requires publicly funded universities to support womens' sports at a level roughly equal to that for men.
    Finally, the pornography thing. Big deal. Of coure the feminists hate it and use it at every turn to demean men, because it points to the sexual nature of males that they cannot tolerate. Look, we guys do have a sexual drive that is at least different from that of women---more physical certainly and I think more omnipresent. So we are more apt to watch porn (I plead guilty) and yeah we even like it raunchy. But I don't see it in any way as evidence of men hating women, and I don't think women in the porn industry are coerced by men.
    Well, enough rambling. I don't think most women hate men, but the lesbian faction of the feminist movement does. And while we men have every right to fight the many misandrist policies promoted by the feminists, I don't pesonally know any men who hate women. Anyway, hate is not cool---toward men, toward women, toward anybody. Peace, my brothers.

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    why dont you fuck off withyour jew hating bullshit
    are you mad cuz jews killed your favorite camel?
    lemme tell you somethin
    there will never be another pogrom, there will never be another pale of settlement in the ukraine, there wont be anymore dachau's and treblinkas, there wont be anymore "jewish doctors plot's", that shit is played out
    THESE COLORS DONT RUN

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    Jews have always been at the highest levels of the professions and finance maybe they just apply themselves to study save their money after all success just doesn't happen it must be striven for

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    Really disgusting that this thread has been allowed to stray to a discussion totally alien to the original topic, with much of it (on both sides) hate-filled. Think I've had enough.

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    Really disgusting that this thread has been allowed to stray to a discussion totally alien to the original topic, with much of it (on both sides) hate-filled. Think I've had enough.
    Jake, whilst I denounce hatred (who defines this anyway?), I equally embrace the right of an individual to express themself. Debate is often fiery and tempestuous here, but it's by allowing other opposing views which emboldens a greater literary and moral conviction that transcends the mental slovenly disinclination to predictable intellectual idleness.

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