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This is a discussion on All Men Are Rapists within the Equal but Different forums, part of the Blogging Hub category; Here's an exerpt from a post on the blog The Corvid Diaries that absolutely had my blood boiling (shout out ...


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All Men Are Rapists

Here's an exerpt from a post on the blog The Corvid Diaries that absolutely had my blood boiling (shout out to Frostyboy on antimisandry.com who brought it to my attention).


Her blog is corvid-dreams.blogspot.com
Firstly, to Mary's "most women are so heavily invested in the concept of "some good men" that they are willing to entirely distort their perspective of what is the far greater violation of women, namely, rape." Thank you, Mary, I am guilty as charged, even sitting here as a rape survivor, and a woman who works to raise awareness of rape; but I am learning, and getting better at not "distorting my perspective", thanks in the main to amazing women like you.

And JusticeWalks, well, I'm speechless. One day I hope I have the bravery and the lucidity to write like that.

I would just like to add here, despite how unhelpful anyone may think it is, and how many women and men alike will argue no, it doesn't mean that, it means some men, or all men have the potential, that it is my firm believe, and if I'm going to be brutally honest, which I might as well be, has been my firm belief for a number of years, that All Men ARE Rapists. I mean that, just as it stands; no qualification, no, oh, except this special man, he isn't; I mean it. All Men Are Rapists. I'm going to say it again:

ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS.
I did leave a comment however, comments are moderated so I'm not expecting to see it any time soon. Unfortunately, I lacked the foresight to copy my comment, but I'll do my best to recreate my response here.
My first question, of course, as you are so comfortable in stating (and repeating) that all men are rapists, what proof do you offer to substantiate such a gross generalization? I happen to know that my husband has never raped anyone and is, in fact, a man, so are we to assume that you have (in the form of radfems before you) chosen to label all heterosexual sex as rape? This must come as quite a shock to all the women in the world who are under the impression they're willingly and consensually engaging in sexual congress.

Men do rape, just as women do make false rape accusations. I'll assume, as it's already been established that you're comfortable with blanket stereotypes and collective accountability that you therefore must label all women as lying, vindictive bitches. Of course, I know that I'm not and I know other women who aren't, but for the sake of equality, you must hold women to the same standard of collective guilt as you do men.

I am sorry that you were a victim of rape but it does not vindicate your villifying and maligning an entire gender. You have the right to malign the man who harmed you, but not to spread hatred of all men because of the actions of one, or a few. I would hope you would show the wisdom and maturity to recognize that people should be judged, not be their gender, religion or skin color, but by their actions and deeds.

I am outraged by your comments on behalf of the many, many great men that I know; men who personify qualities such as honesty, integrity, compassion and kindness; men who've devoted their lives to their families and communities. These wonderful men, would never unfairly judge you, even as you have judged them; which makes them far, far better people than you are....regardless of their gender.



Word of warning to anyone wishing to add their comments, Ms. Crow does not allow comments from men on her blog....that probably goes for traitor women such as myself as well.

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How silly.


 
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Well I feal really sorry for her.....she shielded every man away from herselft because a man did something horrible to her. I think what she is really saying is that she fears to be raped again and every man is a potential rapist to her. I can just feel sorry and am not offended.

Its like being screwed up during a divorce fight and saying all marriages are doomed.


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Was she even raped? Does she tell what happened anywhere on her site (I didn't want to give her the traffic)? Was it "he held me down, shoved my legs apart and had at it", or was it, "he grabbed my ass when I was at a concert", or was it, "we got soooo drunk, and he took advantage of me. I came the hardest I ever have, but I would never have said yes if I were sober"?

I'm sorry, but with the ginormous gray area in the definition of "rape", and given that she seems to be a radfem, I have to ask.


 
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Was she even raped? Does she tell what happened anywhere on her site (I didn't want to give her the traffic)? Was it "he held me down, shoved my legs apart and had at it", or was it, "he grabbed my ass when I was at a concert", or was it, "we got soooo drunk, and he took advantage of me. I came the hardest I ever have, but I would never have said yes if I were sober"?

I'm sorry, but with the ginormous gray area in the definition of "rape", and given that she seems to be a radfem, I have to ask.
Good point, KM.

Even give the benefit of the doubt that she was a victim of actual rape, that does not make it o.k. to label all men rapists. Hatred and biggotry are never o.k., regardless of our personal experiences. If she was a victim, she has my compassion for what she was subjected to, but she has my condemnation for her blanket maligning of all men as rapists.



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Well I feal really sorry for her.....she shielded every man away from herselft because a man did something horrible to her. I think what she is really saying is that she fears to be raped again and every man is a potential rapist to her. I can just feel sorry and am not offended.

Its like being screwed up during a divorce fight and saying all marriages are doomed.
You're a wise man, Feckless. You see through to what's underneath the surface.

I just hope this woman doesn't take her delusion too far...because the potential is there for her to cause harm to others because of the things she feels. I hope she gets help before she hurts herself or someone else.


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You're a wise man, Feckless. You see through to what's underneath the surface.

I just hope this woman doesn't take her delusion too far...because the potential is there for her to cause harm to others because of the things she feels. I hope she gets help before she hurts herself or someone else.
Tera, the feminists say this regardless. I can't wait to you get right into this on the ground. When you see it come out of the mouths of women you know and care about, you are going to freak out! (I think)

This starts at the top and dribbles down.


 
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The problem is, some women embrace their rape victimhood. It becomes the definition of who and what they are - a victim. Their lives would be so much better and happier - and incidentally, so would everyone's around them - if they could move from "victim" to "survivor".


 
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The problem is, some women embrace their rape victimhood. It becomes the definition of who and what they are - a victim. Their lives would be so much better and happier - and incidentally, so would everyone's around them - if they could move from "victim" to "survivor".
Amazing to hear this from you. And wonderful.

Gosh, you have achieved so much! Good for you and how courageous you are.


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The problem is, some women embrace their rape victimhood. It becomes the definition of who and what they are - a victim. Their lives would be so much better and happier - and incidentally, so would everyone's around them - if they could move from "victim" to "survivor".
I've seen that kind of behavior a lot. And I think you're right to question the legitimacy of the rape claim. I've seen a drunk woman in the parking lot of a Seven-Eleven yelling and screaming to another woman about how she was "raped" and yadda yadda. It sounded like a drunken lecture. Maybe she was raped, maybe she wasn't. It's kinda hard to tell when she cops a holier than thou attitude.


 
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I could dig down deep to find some compassion for a lunatic, a hater, a misandric harpy, trying to understand that they are 'hurt', but far too many far more deserving people have a claim on the modest amount of compassion I have.

She is the Nazi who hates all Jews, even the little old chap in the high street haberdasher shop who sells braces and socks. Her hatred is dangerous. It is infectious.

She has made her bed at the bottom of a slimy pit. She dug the pit herself.



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this woman's (if you can dignify this ho with the term "woman")rant reminds me of a rap lyric from Ice cube back in the 90's "please dont kill me/please dont rape me/ BITCH, I dont wanna fuck yo filthy ass/ I just wanna rob you/ on my way to the hood"
to me a woman constantly crying about being raped or harping on rape or sexual harrassment smacks of narcissism to the greatest degree
I think women like this are fishing for someone to tell them they are so irresistable that men cant help themselves around them


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