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Well, white men aren't portrayed as idiots in the media? I always crack up when I see a movie with a black engineer and a white criminal. Anyway, it's not just the media, it's just that Asian men are really the bottom of the barrel and yes, any man with balls wouldn't share his women and it's not just about them finding dates, it's really about the self-preservation of their ethnic group.

And another thing, due to selective abortions of girls, there are a lot more men than women, so sharing them would become even harder.

Hey hey, I know more black engineers than criminals. Okay, I come from an engineering department, but still... I've only been mugged by whites (native Dutch drug addicts)

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Racism implies prejudice. What I said is actually based on cross-cultural study related to female racial preferences, in which Asian men came last.

And the statement related to China and South Korea was about the selective abortion of girls.

Would you happen to have links to that study? Would be interesting to read... does it specify different Asian cultures or puts the whole region into a single group?

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Well, white men aren't portrayed as idiots in the media?

We can oppose both. Not to say that any group should be immune to having one of its members portrayed negatively, but we can oppose patterns where one group is always shown in a particular negative way. Also, while white men are often unfairly portrayed, we are much more likely to be romantic leads than Asian men.

Anyway, it's not just the media, it's just that Asian men are really the bottom of the barrel and yes, any man with balls wouldn't share his women and it's not just about them finding dates, it's really about the self-preservation of their ethnic group.

Why do you consider Asian men "the bottom of the barrel"? I don't know how much your opinion is shaped by the media but the fact that so many women agree with you is most likely a direct result of media portrayal. I say that because it was not always that way.

I have heard and read in forums more Asian men complaining about getting dates than preserving their ethnic group. Granted these were mostly Asian-Americans, rather than those living in the Far East. I don't know what the majority opinion is, since I don't have polling data. Do you?

BTW, I am multi-ethnic, though racially I am all white. I have no ethnic group to preserve. Do I still have to forbid white women from dating non-white men or attack non-white men dating white women in order to "have balls"?

And another thing, due to selective abortions of girls, there are a lot more men than women, so sharing them would become even harder.

Ditto what OH said. There is no female infanticide in Japan, and I doubt that there is in Taiwan, the Philippines, Thailand, etc. Plus, I was including people of Asian descent from all over the world. I am fairly certain there is none among Asian-American communities, or among other Asian descended Westerners.

Quote from occasionallyhappy

By your twisted sense of logic and superiority, you have completely undermined the OP's good intentions. Good job...

I don't see Percy as undermining my good intentions. He made it clear he was joking. From my past interactions with Percy, and the sum of all of his posts that I have read, I sincerely doubt that he is racist.

I will look for that study(you can just google stuff like racial preferences men women or something like that). It was done with speed dating, but I don't have it on hand. Meadester, certain preferences are really natural. For example, assortative mixing is prefered by people on average for marriage/long term relationships while disassortative mixing is prefered by people for quick flings.

Another thing, I didn't mean to imply that Asians hate girls, I don't get why you people interpret it this way. It's just that the gender lack of blanace will lead to more aggressive mate guarding, probably. I might have put it too bluntly or was too harsh with the statement with bottom of the barrel, but I just don't find most Asian men attractive(they do have really cool hair though). And I don't consume much Hollywood propaganda and I was raised in a place where we don't have negative attitudes towards Asian people. I fit the bill of most studies, I have a preference for members of my own race(women have a stronger preference than men, while men probably mind their women dating outside their group - at least evolutionary psychology would have it this way). I think all the studies I found on this show that Asian women have the highest degree of outgroup preference, while women of other group have the lowest preference for Asian men.

Anyway, to sum it up for now, I don't have any beef with Asian men(the NE variety, anyway). A lot of them are intelligent people and are really nice friends(from personal experience anyway).

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Hey hey, I know more black engineers than criminals. Okay, I come from an engineering department, but still... I've only been mugged by whites (native Dutch drug addicts)

Know this!
There will always be racism and sexism in this shit drenched world and there is nothing we can do about it!

Ah, stereotypes...don't ya just love 'em? (Sarcasm). So Asian men: what's the western stereotype? They're controlling? They treat women as subordinates? Whatever. Every group has a negative stereotype. Every one. We could discuss them all day and where does it lead us? Unity or disharmony?

The two wolves inside of us are always hungry.

Which one are you going to feed?

I have met, worked with and lived with (for extended periods) Asian people and on the whole find them interesting and largely delightful. I look at the great sweep of humanity, past and present, and do not see one section or another to be at the 'bottom of the barrel'.

Nevertheless there will always be those who are quick to Judge harshly and even call me a racist. They might even call me sexist. I will just call them 'hasty'. This is a product, probably, of their own prejudice. They are certainly pre-judging me before having all the knowledge essential for a sound judgement.

Most 'racial' groups seem to have a tendancy to prefer the racially familiar. There are always some in any racial group that are adventurous when chosing 'mates' and will find another race 'exotic'. That is a simplified observation.

Personally I have found - to my taste - that the most attractive and beautiful women in the world are Eurasian. That is to say, the product of racial intermixing between European and Asian. If that personal taste makes me a racist or a sexist, then so be it, although I would hazard that it is stretching the terms beyond their breaking point.

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I don't see Percy as undermining my good intentions. He made it clear he was joking. From my past interactions with Percy, and the sum of all of his posts that I have read, I sincerely doubt that he is racist.

As a joke, it was in poor taste. Do you recall similar types of jokes with regards to people of African descent? In the end, people realized that the targeted group wasn't finding them very funny at all.

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Nevertheless there will always be those who are quick to Judge harshly and even call me a racist. They might even call me sexist. I will just call them 'hasty'. This is a product, probably, of their own prejudice. They are certainly pre-judging me before having all the knowledge essential for a sound judgement.

As I mentioned in my reply to your PM, try such comments and jokes to Asian people in your community. Try it with your neighbors, co-workers, friends, etc. Notice their reaction and subsequent behavior towards you. That will provide an accurate picture of whether they are appropriate.

Quote from occasionallyhappy

As I mentioned in my reply to your PM, try such comments and jokes to Asian people in your community. Try it with your neighbors, co-workers, friends, etc. Notice their reaction and subsequent behavior towards you. That will provide an accurate picture of whether they are appropriate.

Do not tempt me, Sir.

I have spent a lifetime being refered to in ungentlemanly and racist terms by people of darker colour than mine and currently exist under the yoke of legalised sexist misandry. Your hasty and prejudical labelling of me is just one small irritant amongst many.

Your continued protest of self-righteousness irks me more by the exchange.

Back off. Or apologise.

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Ah, stereotypes...don't ya just love 'em? (Sarcasm). So Asian men: what's the western stereotype? They're controlling? They treat women as subordinates? Whatever. Every group has a negative stereotype. Every one. We could discuss them all day and where does it lead us? Unity or [I]disharmony?

I do not feel that there is a general negative western stereotype, at least not here in Singapore. Rather, the negative stereotype is very much on low wage workers who come here to earn a living - specifically from the Republic of China or Bangladesh.

If you are referring to how Asian people think about a Caucasian person (of either gender) it is almost universally positive. I don't want to say 100%, but I don't see any negative western stereotypes in my daily life.

As I mentioned in my reply to your PM,

I have recieved no reply to my pm.

occasionally happy.

I am waiting for your apology.

It is easy to calumnise a person as you have done.

It is even easier to admit error and apologise.