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Male prisoners can object to being searched by a female, but only, says an 'in charge' woman, on religious or cultural grounds if deemed to be genuine. The rest of them can get (expletive deleted)


Review urged as prisoner refuses body search on religious grounds

Last updated at 13:10pm on 18th July 2007
The Prison Service has called for an urgent review into safeguarding prisoner's religious principles



The Prison Service has been asked to carry out an urgent review after an inmate refused to be searched by a female warder because it was against his religion.
A male prisoner, who was a member of a Pentecostal church, said it would be a "sin" to allow a woman to touch him, the Prisons and Probation Ombudsman Stephen Shaw revealed.
The inmate, identified only as Mr L, filed an official complaint to the ombudsman after he was placed on report for failing to allow the officer to conduct the search.
Mr Shaw said he felt Mr L's personal convictions should be given weight by the Prison Service.
"It is undesirable that there is very little to prevent prisoners routinely objecting to being searched by female staff," the ombudsman said.
"I therefore recommend an urgent review of the Prison Service Order to ensure that it provides sufficient safeguards to prisoners' religious principles while clearly defining the circumstances in which male prisoners may decline to be searched by female officers."
Another inmate, referred to as Mr M, complained that films with scenes of a sexual nature were available on his prison's video channel.
He said they were an affront to his religious beliefs. But Mr Shaw ruled that the jail had taken reasonable steps to ensure inmates knew what was being shown, and that material was only allowed if it had previously been shown on terrestrial television.
The annual report showed the ombudsman received 4,666 complaints and opened 185 investigations into deaths in custody last year.
A Prison Service spokeswoman said: "All prisoners are rub-down searched when necessary.
"Those male prisoners that object for religious or cultural reasons to being searched by a female officer will be searched by a male officer.
"This is a pragmatic policy which is not new and has operated successfully since the early 1990s. "Individual prisons use their discretion to judge whether an objection is genuine or not."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770


Mean while...there is nothing that we won't do for them - no expense to be spared to accommodate the superior gender. Don't you just love equality!



Single cabins and private showers for women on Navy's new warship

By PETER ALMOND - Last updated at 15:41pm on 19th August 2007

The Royal Navy has spent £1billion on its first "unisex" warship to cater for the rising number of female sailors.



Until now, women have found it difficult to serve on naval vessels because of communal washrooms and mess decks with 16 bunks or more.
But HMS Daring, one of six new advanced Type 45 stealth destroyers being built, has individual, lockable bathrooms where men or women can shower in private and a greater number of single cabins.
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Commander Liz Walmsley and HMS Daring, on which she is logistics director


Navy chiefs even predict that over the next ten years, up to half of crew members recruited could be female.
The 7,350-ton Daring, which completed its first month of sea trials off Scotland last week, has 48 single cabins and many two-berth cabins for the 192 crew.
Every cabin has an internet connection and desk space. Each mess has a flat-screen TV with DVD players and worldwide satellite TV. Further comforts include cold drink and ice dispensers, and it is the first British warship with a purpose-built gym.
Only three of the 60 crew recruited so far are women. They include the ship's logistics director, Commander Liz Walmsley.
But Commander Graham Beard, the Royal Navy's equality and diversity policy officer, said: "Daring is giving us real opportunities and flexibility with male and female crewing arrangements.
"There is no logical reason why we couldn't go to a 50-50 male-female crew. Personally and realistically, I don't think we will.
"But I can see, in five to ten years, a 50 per cent female recruitment level if only because of demographic trends, and this type of ship will enable more of them to go to sea.
"Modern ships are increasingly automated and you don't need as much brute strength to run them."
The 492ft Type 45, which can sail 8,000 miles without refuelling, has awesome fire power and is considered the most advanced warship in the world.
Its advanced radar and missile systems will be able to spread a protective umbrella hundreds of miles wide. The ship can track more than 1,000 air targets at once, and destroy a missile the size of a cricket ball flying at three times the speed of sound.
Its principal anti-missile system protects a fleet from every air threat, including swarms of small, supersonic, wave-skimming anti-ship missiles.
HMS Daring, launched by the Countess of Wessex in February last year, was built in sections by main contractor BAE Systems at shipyards in Portsmouth, Barrow-in-Furness and on the River Clyde. Royal Navy official spokesman Commander Mark Durkin said: "Accommodating female sailors has been a problem. Now, with an increased number of single cabins on the new generation of warships, we will have more flexibility to provide females with better facilities."


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Better facilities, because they're women? Wow, that's not sexist








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an inmate refused to be searched by a female warder because it was against his religion.
A male prisoner shouldn't have too object to being searched by a female warder, purely based on religious or cultural grounds. As with female prisoners who can only be searched by female staff, male prisoners should be afforded the same 'equal' right to not being subject to humiliating searches by women.

There is a large percentage of lesbians who are female warders, many of them probably hoping (praying more like) to be assigned to a female prison (a kid in a sweet shop). However, many are disappointingly attached to mens prisons, and undoubtedly many of these lesbian warders (some feminists?) find some recompense and personal spiteful gratification in ritually humiliating male prisoners, by stripping them of their humanity.


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I Agree males shouldn't have females searching them, although some may prefer a female.

As for the navy.. I wouldn't want my back covered by a crew of women.
I can hear the excuses of failure already.
The loud boom made my hand slip and I broke a nail. (out of action)
The average women would probably panic in a serious attack.



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