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    Media Coverage of Female Sexual Tourism

    Wednesday, February 17, 2010
    By Michael Reed

    Sex-for-money arrangements are a controversial subject in our culture. However, some seem worse than others. For example, consider the growing number of middle-class young women in places like the UK and Japan who are reportedly paying their way through college by doing sex work.

    Most people would agree that there is a qualitative difference between that and the lot of a crack-addicted street hooker. In the minds of most, sexual tourism is, ethically speaking, another low point in the world of commercial sex.

    It’s difficult to find any media sources that are willing to put a positive spin on the practice of rich, middle-aged men travelling to poor countries in order to have sex, usually with young people.

    However, astonishingly, there are sympathetic voices to be found, and in mainstream publications too. Try it yourself, do a search for “female sexual tourism” and prepare for some Olympic-class mental gymnastics.

    You’ll find articles on the subject of female sexual tourism that not only rationalise the actions of the women involved but actually reverse things by depicting the women as victims. The hypocrisy of this double standard is aggravated by the fact that the group that write the articles, feminist journalists, typically espouse a disparaging and zero tolerance view of prostitution.

    Articles such as these are worth seeking out, however. If you can overcome the outlandish rationalisations, they constitute some of the only sympathetic appraisals on the subject of sex work to be found from mainstream sources. The insights are particularly valuable as the subject is the third world sex trade, so you’re seeing a positive spin on probably the worst aspects of commercial sex.

    The subject is particularly topical as the treatment of developing nations by richer countries has been pushed the forefront due to the disaster currently afflicting Haiti. And in case you’re wondering: yes, Haiti (along with other impoverished nations) is one of the top destinations for female sex tourists.

    In fact, middle-aged women availing themselves of the services of Haiti “beach boys” was the subject of the 2006 film Heading South. Needless to say, the film, starring Charlotte Rampling, projects an extremely compassionate view of the subject. Furthermore, female journalists of the time were quick to praise the film for its “sensitive treatment of a complex subject”.

    Liz Hoggard, writing for The Indepedent, claimed that the film is “an intelligent, provocative take on sex tourism in the late-1970s”. The film maker himself says of the characters, “More than sex, they are seeking a tenderness that the world is refusing them”.



    Oh, the poor things. Perhaps the film is need of a sequel, a positive depiction of men who do the same thing? I’m sure it would receive rave reviews by the same women who were enamoured with Heading South.

    As you might imagine, these writers typically make use of terminology that is at odds with the language employed in most articles about prostitution. For instance, the term “gigolo” is used over and and over again. When I hear the word gigolo, I think of Richard Gere in his first staring role or perhaps a swarthy, well dressed foreigner who uses sexual flattery to trick a rich western woman out her riches. A poverty stricken man giving sexual favours at bargain rates to feed his family just doesn’t sound like a gigolo to me.

    Vernacular comes into it in other ways too. Apparently Jamaican male sex workers refer to their female customers as “milk-bottles”. This practice is derided as “objectionable and racist” by Tanika Gupta, the author of a play about female sexual tourism. Oh yes, I’m sure that if it were discovered that prostitutes working on the streets of Edinburgh were using disrespectful slang when referring to their clients there would be media outcry.

    Gupta goes on to tell the Guardian, the furthest left of all British newspapers, that this is an example that shows us that “it’s a mutual exploitation that is going on.” I don’t disagree that there are two sides sides to exploitation in the sex industry, I’m just amazed that feminist writers seem oblivious to this fact when it’s men who are the customers.

    All of the media coverage of female sexual tourism takes this tack. The usual excuses – the ones that are wheeled out every time women are caught doing something that is a no-no when men do it – are in evidence. It isn’t about sex, apparently, it’s about self esteem.




    This brings us to another important point. Psychologically, there is a consistent theme, in the attitude of both the writers and the female sex tourists, of wilful denial.

    Some of the women feel that they are not actually engaged in sexual tourism per-sec, they prefer the term “romance tourism”. One of the case studies referred to in Liz Hoggard’s Independent article explains, “The words ’sex tourism’ make me think of City boys who go to Thailand with their mates for seedy conquests to boast about. It’s different for women. When they go abroad for sex, it’s about wanting to feel special and escaping the boundaries at home.”



    However, the common conception of romance seems at odds with that of the action of paying $80 for oral sex.

    Gupta, the afore mentioned playwright, says that when she visited a foreign country for research, she was approached by an amorous 19 year old. “I kept telling him I wasn’t interested [...] but he wouldn’t take no for an answer.” Despite her insistence that he look for someone his own age, he implored her, “Me no want the kitten, I want the cat”.

    Can anyone who feels old and unattractive be blamed for being tempted by such an offer? I’m sure that many a man on holiday finds his self esteem buoyed no end when beautiful young women tell him that, contrary to his usual level of success with the opposite sex, he is actually very attractive and distinguished.

    Apparently, according to the article in The Independent, many of the women who have been surveyed “[...]insisted they were helping the men, and the local economy, by giving them money and gifts.” How kind of them. I hear that many men are arrested by international authorities each year for attempting similarly altruistic work in third world countries.

    The truth is that the writers and the tourists are denying the real motivation (acquiring no strings sex with young partners) because they are attempting to deny something much bigger: that men and women are really very similar in all things, including sex.

    I’m sure that most people reading this would be appalled if a male friend recounted to them a tale of the “romances” he enjoyed while travelling to poor countries. Any man who gleefully pointed out that the women were young, beautiful and compliant in a way that the women back home were not, would risk being seen for the contemptible, cowardly creep that he really is.

    Further reading
    Sex tourism: When women do it, it’s called ‘romance travelling’, The Ottawa Citizen

    Women who travel for sex: Sun, sea and gigolos, The Independent

    Write about an arranged marriage? No way!, The Guardian

    Heading South (2006), The Internet Movie Database

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    Neat article. Thanks for sharing it.

    (sticks it in the back of her mind to include in a post one of these days)
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    The subject is particularly topical as the treatment of developing nations by richer countries has been pushed the forefront due to the disaster currently afflicting Haiti. And in case you’re wondering: yes, Haiti (along with other impoverished nations) is one of the top destinations for female sex tourists.
    So the impoverished Haitian men get fucked over twice by western women! Once by fat white middle-aged women exploiting them for cheap sex. Secondly by man-hating feminists proactively lobbying to ensure they are denied food, medicine and shelter before any trouble even occured. Fucking hell, I think there'll be some serious opportunity for some MRA recruitment, that or a bloody revolution.

    For anyone in the media with some balls, dovetailing these two stories into one news item or documentary would surely open some eyes.

    It’s different for women.
    This is the one nauseating phrase I constantly hear from women whenever you highight one of a number of double standards that so abounds.
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    i will never understand these people..

    so as much as they go on about women being sexually liberated all day ,
    why is it so hard for them to just admit? there is no science behind it , the fact is ,
    they are horny and want to get off ,and in a place where nobody will ever care.
    simple as that.
    if they keep telling women "it's different for women" they are going to believe it ,
    then when they get sexual urges they will feel ashamed not normal and do something like fly to a 3rd world country.
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    There's also a connection with the rise of 'cougars', middle-aged women seeking out young men for sex. There are a couple of tv shows here that use this theme (Sex and the City being maybe the first)

    But yeah, "it's different for women"
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    when a man does he's called a creep ,
    when a woman does she is called a cougar.

    it's pretty easy for me to tell the difference between a cougar and a nice older woman though. i think most young guys can.
    you can sense their desperation within seconds after any interaction.
    though there is no problem with 'cougars', as long as they pay the price just like a man, if they chose to sleep with a minor
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    Hypocaracy thy name is women.
    This is just another one of countless reasons why I find women to be worse then worthless.
    First off the femanazis and women have done everything they can to not only crimnalize male sexualty but they start making excuses for their sexual misdeeds and hyporcaies because they " Don't feel love " by men who have seen the light that western women are as about as atractive of week out puke becuase of their narrasictic horse shit as well as their venom towards men and boys as well as their natural slutdom.
    when the day of judgement comes, hell will be over flowing with women and girls, more so then men and boys.

    Speaking of cougers there is a show called " Courger Town " with courtny cox??(not sure of the bitch's name) that makes female sexualty towards younger males seem like it's all fun and games which pisses me off to no fucking end.

    Pretty soon female pedohilla would be out in the open for all to see and no one will bat an eyelash over it while men and boys will be rounded up and unmaned.
    Talk about killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.
    If women went such bitches and acted like real ladies they would have men by the ass load who would truely love them because they would love men.
    You get what you give in this world and some day some how women will have to answer for this bullshit and all of their crimes not only against men and boys but their crimes against nauture and humanty, if noy by the hands of men then by the hand of God.
    When the femanazis tell me it's their way or the highway I tell them to fuck off and die, because at lest the highway leads to new and intresting places, their ways is a dead end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celtic Druid View Post
    So the impoverished Haitian men get fucked over twice by western women! Once by fat white middle-aged women exploiting them for cheap sex. Secondly by man-hating feminists proactively lobbying to ensure they are denied food, medicine and shelter before any trouble even occured. Fucking hell, I think there'll be some serious opportunity for some MRA recruitment, that or a bloody revolution.

    For anyone in the media with some balls, dovetailing these two stories into one news item or documentary would surely open some eyes.



    This is the one nauseating phrase I constantly hear from women whenever you highight one of a number of double standards that so abounds.
    I hear you Bro and why do you think the US army is over there, because the femanazis know that if it was not for them there would be a bloody revolution over the treamment men and boys are getting over there, as well as the coruption of Hatain women because of the femanazis
    When the femanazis tell me it's their way or the highway I tell them to fuck off and die, because at lest the highway leads to new and intresting places, their ways is a dead end.

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    Australian women have been doing this in Bali and a now well established Balinese industry of boy whores has developed. This somehow fits in with the gay scene in Bali which is also big and which also feeds off very young Balinese boys. This type of abuse was unknown to traditional Balinese culture.
    The feminized left in Australia while being hellbent on accusing 'patriarchical' Australia of Genocide against the Aboriginal people, are also sneaking off to cheap holidays in Bali to romance beautiful compliant, innocent Balinese boys. Could we say, then, that Australian women are enacting'cultural genocide' in Bali?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wildog View Post
    Australian women have been doing this in Bali and a now well established Balinese industry of boy whores has developed. This somehow fits in with the gay scene in Bali which is also big and which also feeds off very young Balinese boys. This type of abuse was unknown to traditional Balinese culture.
    The feminized left in Australia while being hellbent on accusing 'patriarchical' Australia of Genocide against the Aboriginal people, are also sneaking off to cheap holidays in Bali to romance beautiful compliant, innocent Balinese boys. Could we say, then, that Australian women are enacting'cultural genocide' in Bali?
    anyone ever see the bullshit anti sex tourism ads while flying overseas?
    directed at MEN with girls as victims.

    from what i know about the subject , actually boy's are actually the biggest
    victims in sex tourism.
    with gay men seeking boys and women seeking boys being the biggest perps of this. i am certain it has something to do with the fact that boys ESPECIALLY in third world slums are easy to take advantage of , and there is no consequence because they are expendable workers.
    they have nobody to watch for them.

    i might add that they are happy to get solid western money as payment , but its at the cost of their
    soul ,childhood and health.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samofsons View Post
    anyone ever see the bullshit anti sex tourism ads while flying overseas?
    directed at MEN with girls as victims.

    from what i know about the subject , actually boy's are actually the biggest
    victims in sex tourism.
    with gay men seeking boys and women seeking boys being the biggest perps of this. i am certain it has something to do with the fact that boys ESPECIALLY in third world slums are easy to take advantage of , and there is no consequence because they are expendable workers.
    they have nobody to watch for them.

    i might add that they are happy to get solid western money as payment , but its at the cost of their
    soul ,childhood and health.
    All to true Bro and it this bullshit that makes my blood boil, some day these assholes will get what's coming to them, but it will be at the cost of the souls of innocent children boy and girls.
    BTW you want to chat?
    When the femanazis tell me it's their way or the highway I tell them to fuck off and die, because at lest the highway leads to new and intresting places, their ways is a dead end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samofsons View Post
    when a man does he's called a creep ,
    when a woman does she is called a cougar.
    I really liked that line, and I hope you don't mind but I posted it on my Facebook. I received two responses, both from women. The first girl was able to see where I was coming from and said:
    "No she is just as insecure as the creep."

    The second girl got all feminist on me and said:
    "oooh finally a double standard that depreciates men, now's the time to call for equality"

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    Women are no better than men when it comes to buying sex overseas but then again, a lot of them have no morals anyway!

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    When I was a lad, we considered the possibilities of "holiday romances", strange how it has suddenly become "sex tourism".. Strange also if it is the case that the countries that most go out of their way to encourage folk to partake in this, are now saying "dont do it"..

    Its like "welcome to the party".. but "don't enjoy yourself while you are here.."..

    I was entrapped by a female sex tourist, she made me marry her and give her 5 kids before she fucked off back to Frankfurterland..

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    Well, I thought that female prostitutes are taking advantage of men. Why not the same treatment for the male prostitutes in this case? I mean, it's either the client or the patron to blame in both occassions. I recall that people here said that women that do the sex for money thing could get a real job like men in that position do, so why not the same righteousness about this case too?

    Besides this, good story. I hope that no more planes go to Haiti and those women get trapped there. lol

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