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    I want to make something clear before I go on. I am totally and thoroughly against the death penalty. No, it is not because I believe that people who do evil things don't deserve to die, rather, it is because our justice system isn't perfect and that when we have a death penalty it is inevitable that innocent people die.

    Make no mistake, this woman will die for what she did and I am fairly confident that she deserves to die. However, this story is yet another great example of how we view women who do evil things and how they are always defended by either chivalrous men or women who want to maintain their angelic privileges as women yet want equality. All of the same old excuses come out that people use for women and ONLY women like: she was just stupid, or, she was manipulated, blah blah blah.


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    (CNN) -- Virginia's governor has rejected a clemency request from a death row inmate scheduled to be the first woman executed in the United States in five years.
    Teresa Lewis, a 41-year-old grandmother, is now set to die by lethal injection Thursday evening. She pleaded guilty to her part in the 2002 slayings of her husband and stepson in their rural home near Danville, about 145 miles from Richmond, Virginia. Two male co-conspirators -- the triggermen -- were given life in prison without parole.
    "I'm a little nervous this morning. I'm also scared. But I am peaceful because I've got Jesus with me," Lewis told CNN in an exclusive interview by phone Friday, just hours before Republican Gov. Bob McDonnell made his decision. "But I'm good."
    McDonnell refused to issue a stay for Lewis, who is the first woman scheduled to be executed in Virginia in nearly a century.
    "Having carefully reviewed the petition for clemency, the judicial opinions in this case, and other relevant materials, I find no compelling reason to set aside the sentence that was imposed by the Circuit Court and affirmed by all reviewing courts," the governor wrote. "Accordingly, I decline to intervene and have notified the appropriate counsel and family of my decision."
    Lewis and her lawyers had formally asked the governor to spare her life, arguing she has an IQ that is borderline mentally retarded and that she was manipulated to commit the crimes by a dominant male co-defendant. She had pleaded guilty to her participation in the murders, but now regrets her actions.
    "I just want the governor to know that I am so sorry, deeply from my heart," she told CNN. "And if I could take it back, I would, in a minute... I just wish I could take it back. And I'm sorry for all the people that I've hurt in the process."
    Lewis's attorney, Jim Rocap, said he would take his appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.
    Lewis had admitted to police she concocted the plot to kill her husband, Julian Lewis, and his son, C.J. Lewis, an Army reservist set to be deployed to Iraq. At the time, she was having an affair with Matthew Shallenberger and paid him and then-19-year-old Rodney Fuller to commit murder for the victims' insurance money. Court records show Lewis gave the two killers cash to buy weapons and left the door of the rural home open for easy entry.
    Teresa was in bed with her husband when he was blasted with a shotgun by Shallenberger. Julian Lewis survived long enough to tell police: "My wife knows who did this to me." C.J. Lewis was killed by Fuller in his bedroom down the hall.
    Despite her guilty plea, a state judge later sentenced Lewis to death while sparing the lives of triggermen Shallenberger and Fuller. The judge at sentencing called her "the head of this serpent."
    The state argued Lewis was the mastermind of the murders-for-hire, and officials say she does not deserve mercy.
    "I can frankly say that Teresa Lewis is as evil a person as I've ever met," said David Grimes, Commonwealth's Attorney for Pittsylvania County, who was at the scene of the crimes shortly after they occurred. "I would wager with some assurance that you wouldn't find anyone who knew her before this event occurred who thought she was mentally retarded, or had a limited mentality -- that it would ever cross their minds."
    Her supporters say Lewis is deeply remorseful and has been a model prisoner, helping fellow female inmates cope with their circumstances.
    "I do feel I could be a lot of help to some of the women -- which I have already. From my understanding I've already helped a lot, to change their lives, or made them look at their lives in a different way," she told CNN.
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    Re: Woman not to be spared exicution

    ... arguing she has an IQ that is borderline mentally retarded and that she was manipulated to commit the crimes by a dominant male co-defendant.
    Typical. Blame a man. I wonder why so many women these days think it is acceptable to pass the buck onto men? Well, of course we all know why.

    She had pleaded guilty to her participation in the murders, but now regrets her actions.
    Oh well that makes it ok then.
    And I'm sorry for all the people that I've hurt in the process."
    Fuck off! You're sorry you were caught and you're sorry your misandry of blaming men for your decisions hasn't worked and you're sorry your pussy-pass hasn't been issued to you... but you're not necessarily sorry for the deaths & hurt you have caused.
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    Fuck off! You're sorry you were caught and you're sorry your misandry of blaming men for your decisions hasn't worked and you're sorry your pussy-pass hasn't been issued to you... but you're not necessarily sorry for the deaths & hurt you have caused.
    Well said!
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    Typical. Blame a man. I wonder why so many women these days think it is acceptable to pass the buck onto men? Well, of course we all know why.

    Oh well that makes it ok then.
    Fuck off! You're sorry you were caught and you're sorry your misandry of blaming men for your decisions hasn't worked and you're sorry your pussy-pass hasn't been issued to you... but you're not necessarily sorry for the deaths & hurt you have caused.

    Well said, no doubt once hits the SC you can bet soyna von taco and her ilk will do everything to over turn it, this could be a watershed momnet one way or the other, if she doies die then it could signal that women are no longer going to be considered untouchable in the eyes of the law which might mean that there will be some fairness and equilty in law if men keep houding the goverment and the judges.

    If she is spared then it will make it more then clear that the curent laws and setancing in the us are clearly sexist which will give men more insentive to fight all the harder for true fairness and equality in law and if that change to crime and steacing does not come it will led to rebeilion or at the very lest tilled men towards rebelion, also it could be an opening for the MRM to aurge for such portections for men in the same cercumstances as this chick, all in the name of fairness in law and if the courts will not grant such protection it will lead to rebelion or at the very lest contribute to the shift to rebelion my men as well as to incuess the marriage strike and more and more men going MGTOW,expating or geting FWs for wives.
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    Lewis and her lawyers had formally asked the governor to spare her life, arguing she has an IQ that is borderline mentally retarded and that she was manipulated to commit the crimes by a dominant male co-defendant.
    This song again? Women never be responsible when bad is done.
    I just want to make sure I follow feminist logic...

    Man does bad- man's fault
    Woman does bad- man's fault
    Man does good- behind every great man there's a great woman
    Woman does good- she got no help from anyone and did good despite the fact the patriarchy did all it could to oppress her

    Is that about how it goes?

    Her supporters say Lewis is deeply remorseful and has been a model prisoner, helping fellow female inmates cope with their circumstances.
    I never really understood the whole model prisoner thing, especially when they're locked up for real crimes (e.g., not drug dealing, not paying child support). It's like, so they're a violent sociopath, but because they always say please and thank you they should be shown mercy. I wonder what type of help she's been providing her fellow inmates. Probably legal advice: "Just say he hit you and that's why you killed him, you feared for your life." "Just have your friends say that you have a low IQ."
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    She deserves to get the death penalty, like any man would deserve it if he did something like that.

    Just because she is a woman, doesn't excempt her from the horrible crime she did.

    If you do the crime, you should do the time. I don't give a crap if you are male or female, you need to take responsibility for your actions. You're an adult and were fully aware of the choices to be made in that moment.

    I'm tired of these feminists sticking up for women that did something wrong. That would be like standing up for Saddam Hussein or Hitler. You just don't do that. Women who do bad have no one to blame but themselves. Just like a man who does bad has no one else to blame but themselves.

    Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.

    These sickos deserve to get what's coming.

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    hooray for equality, boo for the death penalty

    as for the retarded part. last time i checked boderline meant you didnt qualify. Close but not quite there
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    I wnat to make something cleare before I go on. I am totaly and thouroghly against the death penalty. No, it is not because I believe that people who do evil things don't deserve to die, rather, it is because our justice system isn't perfect and that when we have a death penalty it is inevitable that innocent people die.

    Make no mistake, this woman will die for what she did and I am fairly confident that she deserves to die. However, this story is yet another great example of how we view women who do evil things and how they are always defended by either chilvilrous men or women who want to maintain their angelic privilages as women yet want equality. All of the same old excuses come out that people use for women and ONLY women like: she was just stupid, or, she was manipulated, blah blah blah.


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    Read the full story here.
    Men choose to do bad and it's because men are bad.

    Women choose to do bad and it's because of men "(man)ipulating" them.

    Men do good and it's because things are unfairly stacked against them or a "good" woman is involved.

    Women do good and it's because of their innate goodness.

    It's never the other way around but if it were of course something would be wrong with this picture?

    Women choose to do bad and it's because women are bad.

    Men choose to do bad and it's because of women "(man)ipulating" them.

    Women do good and it's because things are unfairly stacked against them or a "good" man is involved.

    Men do good and it's because of their innate goodness.

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    She deserves to get the death penalty, like any man would deserve it if he did something like that.

    Just because she is a woman, doesn't excempt her from the horrible crime she did.

    If you do the crime, you should do the time. I don't give a crap if you are male or female, you need to take responsibility for your actions. You're an adult and were fully aware of the choices to be made in that moment.

    I'm tired of these feminists sticking up for women that did something wrong. That would be like standing up for Saddam Hussein or Hitler. You just don't do that. Women who do bad have no one to blame but themselves. Just like a man who does bad has no one else to blame but themselves.

    Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.

    These sickos deserve to get what's coming.
    Of course women are never responsible for anything they do wrong. If a man is a criminal it's because he's bad but if a woman's a criminal her mental condition is brought into question or she's some kind of victim in some way.

    It's funny how those with the biggest victim mentality accuse US of having it. If they can turn kind hearted men cold towards them then what will they do to men that aren't so kind hearted? When wretched women attack innocent men it only makes us HATE them.
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    As with ancient Rome, the spectacle of executing people is more about politicians courting the mood of the public and seeking aggrandisement, rather then what is just.

    In this particular case the pussy pass has been nullified by greater self-serving political manoeuvrings.
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    There's not much left to say here. She is rightfully sentenced, and the excuses and mitigating they make up for here, is ridiculous and even insultive to her victim's families.

    I agree with Rohara's opinion on the death penalty. We all agree certain criminals deserve such penalty, but the problem is (as is demonstrated in the USA before), that innocent people are being sentenced to death also and you can't just reverse a death penalty. The death of a single innocent person is by far worse than letting several atrocious criminals life. It is a point people often fail to see by relating all their thoughts and emotions on that single atrocious case that works them up so much, that they forget that the persecution should never be to the detriment of the protection of the innocent.

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    ""She had pleaded guilty to her participation in the murders, but now regrets her actions.""

    I bet she does !


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    ""She had pleaded guilty to her participation in the murders, but now regrets her actions.""

    I bet she does !

    She probably only regrets pleading guilty and not her participation in the murders.
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    ""She had pleaded guilty to her participation in the murders, but now regrets her actions.""

    I bet she does !

    The psycho bitch regrets the fact that she got caught!

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    The psycho bitch regrets the fact that she got caught!
    but thats all any criminal regrets
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    Agreed.

    Nonetheless, it isn't common for men caught in other crimes to blame women specifically for their own actions & decisions. It seems to be an increasingly common agenda for a woman to blame a man when she is caught.
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