Spain calls for Europe-wide protection for battered women

**frostyboy** · 9th-January-2010

From The Guardian:

Spain calls for Europe-wide protection for battered women

Spain launched a campaign for a Europe-wide system of restraint
orders aimed at curbing violence against women, calling for crime
statistics to be reconfigured to highlight gender violence and for
EU legislation offering protection to battered women across
national borders.

Opening Madrid's six-month rotating presidency of the EU and
seeking to build on its progressive governance agenda, Alfredo
Rubalcaba, the interior minister, called for a new approach to
the problem, for special police units dealing with battered
women, and for special treatment of the issues by European
judiciaries.

In Brussels yesterday Spanish officials, supported by officials from 11 of the 27 EU member states, initiated draft legislation on a European protection order which would, if it became law, mean that a woman protected from an abusive and violent male by a police restraint order in any EU country would enjoy the same protection across all member states. The initiative is supported by countries from Bulgaria to Finland. The list of backers includes France and Italy, though so far neither Britain nor Germany.

"There is an EU-wide consensus on the need for this protection order," said María Teresa Fernández de la Vega, the deputy prime minister. "But it is technically difficult."

Spanish officials admitted they may fail because of the problems of reconciling different legal and administrative systems across the EU.

"It's not easy," said Rubalcaba. "I'm not sure we'll be able to develop a joint restraining order within six months."

But while officials called for a new system of collating and comparing statistics on violence against women across the EU, Rubalcaba urged much greater police co-ordination on the issue and complained that European police, justice, and home affairs officials never discussed the problem of sexual violence.

He pointed out that he had been attending EU councils of police and justice ministers for more than three years. "We have never ever specifically discussed gender violence. We've never exchanged experiences and views on this."

He denied all suggestions that this might be because the meetings were dominated by male officials and politicians and also emphasised his disagreement with notions that women might suffer disproportionately from violent male conduct in the southern Mediterranean countries of the EU.

"It's a human problem we share whether we live in the south or the north," he said. "I don't think being a man reduces your sensitivity to this problem."

It is unclear what kind of impact the protection order might have. Officials admitted that extending protection across national borders would affect at best a small minority of victims.

"Even if only one victim is protected, it's worth it," said Cristina Gallach, a Spanish EU presidency spokeswoman. "It's the minority that deserves protection."

Different European systems use different methods and instruments to try to deal with the issue, ranging from magistrates to social services to police units, meaning that standardising the practices is more of a technical than a substantive problem, according to the Spanish, who are pushing equality of the sexes as a theme of their EU presidency.

If the campaign to legislate for battered women fails, there are moves afoot aimed at establishing an "observatory" for gathering and monitoring sexual violence across the EU, perhaps building on the work of a European human rights agency based in Vienna.

Officials pointed out that if a woman is murdered by her husband, in most systems the crime will be catalogued under the murder statistics and will not surface in the gender violence ledgers.

**Nynrah Ghost** · 9th-January-2010

Typical feminist speech calling for more male persecution. What else would you expect from a screwed up country such as Pussified Spain?

**frostyboy** · 9th-January-2010

Spain launched a campaign for a Europe-wide system of restraint orders aimed at curbing violence against women, calling for crime statistics to be reconfigured to highlight gender violence and for EU legislation offering protection to battered women across national borders.

But of course, no concern is demonstrated for battered men.

Officials pointed out that if a woman is murdered by her husband, in most systems the crime will be catalogued under the murder statistics and will not surface in the gender violence ledgers.

Presumably, the murders of men by their wives are also catalogued under the murder statistics?

**Feckless** · 9th-January-2010

Good god....typical Spain. That is the place where you get a harsher punishment for DV if you are a man. Not because of judges or prejudice, but because it is in the law their. This isn´t even written gender neutral. I hope Germany does the right think, at least Merkel is not known for being overly women friendly.

**Nynrah Ghost** · 9th-January-2010

Quote from Feckless

Good god....typical Spain. That is the place where you get a harsher punishment for DV if you are a man. Not because of judges or prejudice, but because it is in the law their. This isn´t even written gender neutral. I hope Germany does the right think, at least Merkel is not known for being overly women friendly.

I hope so too... as in the near future (between 1 or 3 years) we are probably going to move to Germany. While I know where I stand concerning my 'rights', it would certainly be more pleasant to not enter grounds that are more female-friendly (and with that also comes more male-unfriendly as Spain for instance demonstrates).

**Tyrael** · 9th-January-2010

Spain calls for sexist double standards by only protecting women from domestic violence. Spain is a sexist country.

There's no equality when battered men are not protected too.

**Feckless** · 10th-January-2010

Quote from Nynrah Ghost

I hope so too... as in the near future (between 1 or 3 years) we are probably going to move to Germany. While I know where I stand concerning my 'rights', it would certainly be more pleasant to not enter grounds that are more female-friendly (and with that also comes more male-unfriendly as Spain for instance demonstrates).

How bad is it in the Netherlands?

**Percy** · 10th-January-2010

"Even if only one victim is protected, it's worth it," said Cristina Gallach, a Spanish EU presidency spokeswoman.

So, to 'protect' ONE (female) 'victim' the entire continent and 20 odd countries have to adjust their laws. Never mind all the False Accusations. Never mind all the bogus victims. Never mind the tactical advantage of destroying some man's reputation.

Just what is 'worth' doing to protect ONE innocent victim of false accusation?

And what's with the 'spokeswoman' bizzo. Where's the 'spokesperson'?

**Nynrah Ghost** · 10th-January-2010

Quote from Feckless

How bad is it in the Netherlands?

They have some of the typical rubbish here, some quick and well known ones here: Affirmative action in favour of women, abundance of support for women (DV, single mothers etc), the cruel alinomy/child support system, the lack of father's rights in juridical terms and such things.
People in the Netherlands also love squabling about issues regarding women and work, such as quotums, more female-friendly work spaces and work conditions and all that kind of stuff.

But, they do use a shared parenting model more frequently here than in other countries after divorces as far as I know and men are not subjugated to the draft here though (at the time being, there has been squabling about wether the draft should make a comeback...).

Though, compared to countries such as America and the UK, the Netherlands still strikes me as modest in terms of women-friendly (and male-unfriendly). But then again, America is the pinnacle of feminist jurisdiction. Modest, but still rather unpleasant.

**Daveyone** · 10th-January-2010

Then again Frostboy who really reads the Guardian?
http://www.facebook.com/people/Jesus-Ortega/1484071028
http://www.facebook.com/pages/CCPMI-...D/165276376366

No I don't know wht it says either but I agree with it!

**SpanishInjustice** · 2nd-February-2010

I live in Spain and I am a victim of the spanish feminist inquisition.
This is a country whereby a father is immediately jailed for three days on a mere accusation by the female partner. Apon his release (totally demoralised) he is then put in front of a judge and a distance order is immediately interposed. The Feminazi legal machine is now running. The father now loses all contact with his children, many will not return to see their children for many months if not years. The family judges do not take any criteria into consideration. The Penal judges then try the man based on the womans word, with or without evidence from either party.
Shared custody is not given unless the mother allows, thus the woman takes all, the home, the children, child maintenance and an earner for herself. in a country where the children do not emancipate the hope untill into their 30s. Its a life sentence. 160,000 fathers per year are pushed through this brutal system.

María Teresa Fernández de la Vega vice president of Spain "Lesbian" and Bibiana Aido the minister of equality "renouned feminazi" (minister of "inequality") are trying to sell their brand of feminism in europe.

The ex took the same steps a above and took of 600km from where we live to retire on my earnings and enjoy the spanish costa del sol by her parents on the south coast.

ATTENTION NEEDS TO BE RAISED ACROSS ALL OF EUROPE TO STOP THIS BRUTAL FEMINAZI INQUISITION

**SpanishInjustice** · 2nd-February-2010

Daveyon: It says that "femism is the same as chauvenism, support judg serrano"". Judg serrano has recently made public his views on the criminality of the feminazi laws in spain and the injustice of the woman who false accuse their partners of domestic violence. Domestic violence is labelled if they can if it is a male and her female friend. Also the media in Spain is riddled with feminazis and there are few papers and zero tv stations who wish to publish the assault on men in this country. The other link is the association asking for shared custody by fathers and mothers. fyi THE CONSTITUTION HERE VOTED THAT DV CRIMES FOR MALES SHOULD BE MORE SEVERE THAN THOSE COMMITTED BY WOMEN.

**Celtic Druid** · 2nd-February-2010

Alfredo Rubalcaba, the interior minister, called for a new approach to the problem, for special police units dealing with battered women

This sounds like the sinister beginnings of a Stasi-esque secret police unit. It'll only be a matter of time before male dissenters are routinely dragged from their beds for objecting to the tyranny of feminism. This is how it always begins.

Officials pointed out that if a woman is murdered by her husband, in most systems the crime will be catalogued under the murder statistics and will not surface in the gender violence ledgers.

The same as men and much worse, although the key difference is, that a man will be jailed for a very long time, a woman committing the same crime probably won't be jailed at all. Where are the 'officials' pointing this out?

**Kargan3033** · 2nd-February-2010

Quote from Celtic Druid

This sounds like the sinister beginnings of a Stasi-esque secret police unit. It'll only be a matter of time before male dissenters are routinely dragged from their beds for objecting to the tyranny of feminism. This is how it always begins.

The same as men and much worse, although the key difference is, that a man will be jailed for a very long time, a woman committing the same crime probably won't be jailed at all. Where are the 'officials' pointing this out?

Tell me about it, hell thing will get so bad that the secret police will most likely shot men and say they were *Resisting* arest all on the word of one hateful woman.
You know things are heading that way not only in Spain but in Canada, Britain and the US as well.

**Kargan3033** · 2nd-February-2010

Quote from Percy

So, to 'protect' ONE (female) 'victim' the entire continent and 20 odd countries have to adjust their laws. Never mind all the False Accusations. Never mind all the bogus victims. Never mind the tactical advantage of destroying some man's reputation.

Just what is 'worth' doing to protect ONE innocent victim of false accusation?

And what's with the 'spokeswoman' bizzo. Where's the 'spokesperson'?

I know my good friend, it's horse shit all the way around and you know if this gets passed you can bet that it would be look before the gestopo is recreated but this time around it will not be jews who are their victims but it will be men and boys who are carted off to the death camps.