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    The most recent episode of Simpsons (Season 21 episode 13) talks about the Simpsons family tree, they go through great lengths to point out every male (resembling Homer of course) is a dead beat, horse thief, horse beat, dead thief, etc. The only decent Simpson, is of course a woman.

    This isn't the first time they've done it and it's getting infuriating.
    The previous time was the ep where Lisa thought she had the Simpson gene which made her turn stupid. Every Simpsons male had it. All the women of course were successful, decent people.

    Why is it perfectly ok to mock men but not women?

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    Re: The Simpsons does it again

    Lisa being the most intelligent person in the Simpson household is not misandric, neither is Homer being the funniest.
    I haven't seen the recent one, but I saw the one where Lisa thought she was stupid, and I don't see it as misandric either, just funny.

    There have been many times The Simpsons/Futurama have ripped the piss out of feminists/women, they target everyone, and often make a good point at the same time, like the one where the pupils are separated based on gender, a great episode, Lisa, the intelligent one, doesn't want to be on the girls' side, it's too dumbed down for her.

    A simple test of misandry in The Simpsons, Comic Book Guy, Stephen Hawking, Professor Frink, Principal Skinner, Doctor Hibbert are five examples of intelligent male characters in The Simpsons, apart from Lisa, name another intelligent female character from The Simpsons, good luck with that.
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    Re: The Simpsons does it again

    If the Simpsons really want to make a statement, I am quite happy to do a voice-over of a Knackered Old Knight passing through on his knackered old steed, ranting about feminasties in Springfield.

    I would be very nice to Lisa, who is a good girl, but Bart would test my patience !

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    I prefer Family Guy.


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    I prefer to leave the TV off unless I am playing a video game.
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    I prefer to leave the TV off unless I am playing a video game.
    Good one!

    At least national Geographics and the Discovery channel hasn't been infested by the bat shit of misandry.

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    Lisa being the most intelligent person in the Simpson household is not misandric, neither is Homer being the funniest.
    I'm sorry but a TV show which claims a gene causes endemic stupidity in an entire family limited only to males is most certainly misandric. The Simpson’s, and indeed almost all popular TV is misandric even if not in theme and production than simply as a product of sponsorship and advertising. TV itself is misandric. Turn it off, do something else.

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    TV itself is misandric. Turn it off, do something else.

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    I'm sorry but a TV show which claims a gene causes endemic stupidity in an entire family limited only to males is most certainly misandric. The Simpson’s, and indeed almost all popular TV is misandric even if not in theme and production than simply as a product of sponsorship and advertising. TV itself is misandric. Turn it off, do something else.
    Sometimes I get the impression that some people view any female being shown as intelligent as a sign of misandry, it's a cartoon, no-one is forced to watch it, I like it, no, I love The Simpsons, and people should perhaps consider some of their characters and storylines before assuming it's misandric.
    TV (a man's invention) is not misandric, some shit on it is, but not everything, and I'll continue to watch the shows that make me laugh, while at the same time being shown how brilliant men actually are by making us laugh all the time.
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    When I was young, I can remember observing the way TV portrayed men and women. I'm talking about being quite young, perhaps 8 or 9. I noticed that the bad guys were always... guys. I noted the one you felt sorry/sympathy for were usually women (yes, this did influence a pro-feminist stance somewhat - but remember my age).

    However, despite that side - I also found a silver lining. Unlike many feminists, I figured that the vast majority of men were not abusers & rapists and I figured that vast majority of women were not victims of a man's abuses.

    So I wondered why does TV perpetuate this concept that only men do wrong, and if a man is wronged-somehow, it's likely to be his own fault?

    I couldn't find a reasonable answer to that question - but it did lead me to have a degree of respect for male actors, knowing they were likely to be condemned for their character's misdeeds. I'd read how several 'bad guys' (like, for example, Nick Cotton from Eastenders) would get grief from the public because they stupidly 'believed' he as a person was similar to his character's poor-personality.

    I realised that men were willing to take on the 'bad guy' role, to look bad in order to get a job done (finish the film, episode, etc.) and they were willing to tolerate the crap from public (though I daresay a good number didn't expect it lol).

    I'm not saying that roles are written gender neutral and men jump at the chance to play that role while women shy away from them... but I still think it deserves a little respect for an actor to know what role he is going to play (a bad guy) and then get up and do it, knowing that his face is going to be associated with a bad-evil-man!

    Even those useless, hateful mini-films on 'lifetime' and such channels, with the endless 'man bad/woman perfect' story line - those men deserve some degree of respect because they know full well people are gonna hate their characters but they're still willing to get on and do the job.

    One particularly bad woman I remember, who also garnered my respect as an actor, was Mrs Mangle from the Aussie show, Neighbours. She portrayed a trouble-making, nasty tempered, deceptive old bag. And she did it damn well.
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    When I was young, I can remember observing the way TV portrayed men and women. I'm talking about being quite young, perhaps 8 or 9. I noticed that the bad guys were always... guys. I noted the one you felt sorry/sympathy for were usually women (yes, this did influence a pro-feminist stance somewhat - but remember my age).

    However, despite that side - I also found a silver lining. Unlike many feminists, I figured that the vast majority of men were not abusers & rapists and I figured that vast majority of women were not victims of a man's abuses.
    At that age I liked Gerry Anderson's "super-marionettes", especially Stingray and Thunderbirds. Strong, well-equipped men saving the world with skill and good spirits. Great stuff.

    The female villains I saw showed up on Star Trek, Twilight Zone and sitcoms (like Agnes Moorhead on Bewitched; I guess the wicked mother-in-law is an old stereotype). There were also evil female agents on the spy shows like Mission: Impossible, Man From U.N.C.L.E., The Saint etc.

    The Americans landed on the moon when I was 11 years old. What a mind-blower for a boy to watch: the whole world seemed to stop while scientists and military guys showed what technology and teamwork could accomplish. But I also remember when Robert Kennedy, a popular and attractive leader, was shot down by a (male) assassin. I didn't understand it, but I knew something very bad had happened.

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    Sometimes I get the impression that some people view any female being shown as intelligent as a sign of misandry, it's a cartoon, no-one is forced to watch it, I like it, no, I love The Simpsons, and people should perhaps consider some of their characters and storylines before assuming it's misandric.
    TV (a man's invention) is not misandric, some shit on it is, but not everything, and I'll continue to watch the shows that make me laugh, while at the same time being shown how brilliant men actually are by making us laugh all the time.
    Since "Females are intelligent and men are stupid" has been shoved down our throats for years, I woulds definately say TV is misandric and stopped watching a few years ago.

    Some may think that TV played no role in our current situation but TV is more of a programming tool than schools are. Men are shown as violent and women as victims, men as incompetent, women as saviours, the list goes on and on and it is partly why so many people look down on men (including men).

    Also, I dislike commercials and on American TV 1/3 of an hour (20 mins) is taken up by commercials.

    Turn off the TV folks, the Simpsons is still on the air BECAUSE it panders to women.
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    Lisa being the most intelligent person in the Simpson household is not misandric, neither is Homer being the funniest.
    I haven't seen the recent one, but I saw the one where Lisa thought she was stupid, and I don't see it as misandric either, just funny.

    There have been many times The Simpsons/Futurama have ripped the piss out of feminists/women, they target everyone, and often make a good point at the same time, like the one where the pupils are separated based on gender, a great episode, Lisa, the intelligent one, doesn't want to be on the girls' side, it's too dumbed down for her.

    A simple test of misandry in The Simpsons, Comic Book Guy, Stephen Hawking, Professor Frink, Principal Skinner, Doctor Hibbert are five examples of intelligent male characters in The Simpsons, apart from Lisa, name another intelligent female character from The Simpsons, good luck with that.
    Good point. With the possible exception of Maggie who occasionally shows what would be flashes of brilliance for a baby, the only other female character who shows more than average intelligence is Mrs. Krababppel, and she's no rocket scientist. The Simpsons, Futurama, South Park, Family Guy and similar cartoons are among the few TV shows that I watch with any regularity since they seem to at least lean toward being equal opportunity offenders.
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    Don't forget "The Great Wife Hope" simpsons episode where the owner of MMA agrees to shut down the sport but only if marge can beat him in a fight, and she of course wins, the episode characterized men as drunken idiots, and not willing to fight anyone "except for a man my own size"

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    The Simpsons, Futurama, South Park, Family Guy and similar cartoons are among the few TV shows that I watch with any regularity since they seem to at least lean toward being equal opportunity offenders.
    what a bald faced and desperately pathetic lie. South park, and ESPECIALLY the simpsons and family guy are NOT EQUAL OPPORTUNITY whatsoever. What a bald faced lie. The bias is consistently against men. Look at the simpsons, the family unit, the boy and dad are seen as complete dolts. The mother is perfect, lisa is perfect. Nelson and his bullies are guys, bart is constantly seen as failing school.

    the episode of a debilitating gene "only" affecting males is misandry to the core. That is right there 100% misandry. No such comparable female bashing exists in any episode.

    in family guy in several instances the feminist meme of "women as victims of patriarchy" is displayed, such as when the dad makes misogynistic jokes and is portrayed as a pig

    it's obvious as hell it's there. Stop denying how bad it is. The first step is admitting. The second is casting these abominations and vile filth into the flames for what they are: massive social engineering to disenfranchise men and therefore control society

    in any society the best way to debilitate them is to give as much power to women as possible and remove as much power from men as possible. This is the easiest way to fragment society.


 

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