Reason, Accountability, and Mealtickets
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Reason, Accountability, and Mealtickets
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Sex, Equality, And Kidding Ourselves - Fred On Everything
"Take Away Reason And Accountability...."
Men of today's older generation grew up in the chivalric miasma of their time, which held that women were morally superior to men, and that civilized men protected women against any available vicissitude. A corollary was that women needed protecting. So common has this understanding been throughout history that one may suspect it of being based in ancient instinct: In a less hospitable world, if men didn't protect women, something disagreeable would eat them, and then there would be no more people. So men did. And do.
Instincts have consequences, particularly when the circumstances requiring them cease to exist.
Because women were until recently subordinate, and in large part played the role of gentility assigned to them, men didn't recognize that they could be dangerous, selfish, or sometimes outright vipers. They were no worse than men, but neither were they better. Men believed, as did women, that women were tender creatures, caring, kind, and suited to be mothers. Males deferred to women in many things, which didn't matter because the things women wanted were not important.
When women came into a degree of power, it turned out that they were as immoral, or amoral, as men, probably more self-centered, and out for what they could get...
[Tombstone]  [Deleted Scene] [#3] - YouTube"Rights for women and responsibilities for men is really license for women, slavery for men, and liberty for neither. " Dylan MacVillain
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Re: Reason, Accountability, and Mealtickets
I disagree. Particulary, I think old-school men (as in BIBLICAL) knew the nature of women (that they are normal people, and normal people are fucking bastards). That's why things were how they were. Slowly, we lost sense of that of the chivalry, but the concept of the good girl falling for the bad boy is REALLY old. Like, King Arthur old.
From memory (haven't read this in a minute), Arthur was a pure white knight in shining armor who represented all of good in this world. His wife and Lancelot were fucking each other silly while he violently insists to his friends who are telling him how fucked up his wife is she's still as pure as when they met. Same experience many "gentlemen" go through nowadays.
King Arthur showcases the naiivety of chivarly - Guinevere was pure, yes, but that was forced purity. She was locked away from men except her father until Arthur married her. Once free, it didn't take long to reveal her actual tendency was slut. Anyone who's pure by outside force has never been tempted, and so is a dangerous commodity. That SHOULD be one of the lessons of that chapter in the tale. If someone aint been exposed to the fires of lust, sure they aint been burnt, but they aint proven fireproof either. A maiden can be manufactured by her parents' control instead of her own will.
We knew in the beginning, but we forgot that women were only humans just like us instead of ridiculously pure saints, and that's when we fucked up. They're only human - our just-as-imperfect counterparts.“Keep away from those who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but the really great make you believe that you too can become great.” ~ Mark Twain
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