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    Is this for real?

    Nude punishment of boys in India
    « on: Today at 8:03pm » Quote Modify I came across this on another board. No idea if it is true, but it sounds like it could be, though I have been to India many times and have never heard of it. Does anyone know?

    by a poster named Sajita:

    "David, you are so right. I’m a 16 year old Indian girl (not the native American kind). The adults in my family are immigrants to the U.S. from India. It is very common for Indian parents to punish their boys by making them stand in a state of total nudity holding their ears with their hands or holding their hands clasped behind their heads. My family still continue that tradition in this country. I’ve never been punished in that way, because it’s not considered appropriate in most parts of India to subject girls to nudity as punishment (or for any other reason, for that matter), but I’ve often witnessed my brothers and male cousins being made to stand in a state of total nudity holding their ears with their hands for a half-hour to an hour, depending on the gravity of the boys’ offense. However, whenever my female cousins and I approach the boys while they’re being punished, they swiftly shift their hands from ears to genitals! But the parents usually quickly make the boys place their hands back on their ears, even as we girls gawk at them. Female humiliation during the boys’ punishments is definitely very intentional in Indian culture, and it’s sure not easy for the boys, but nonetheless, it is widely considered to be very effective in improving boys’ behaviour in our culture. After a few moments, the parents will make us girls leave the boys alone, but we girls usually bug the boys 3 or 4 times like that during a typical punishment period. It may sound like we girls are little teasing brats, but in our culture, it’s actually considered to be our family duty to do this, regardless of how much we enjoy seeing the boy nudity, which we certainly do! Meanwhile, the adults in our culture continually drill modesty into the girls’ heads."

    then later she posts again:

    "In response to David T and Woody:

    I am surprised to learn that some parents in America used to spank boys until they reached age 12. I too would have guessed they would have stopped those “bare butt” spankings at about age 8. I’m sure many of those older boys were terribly embarrassed and I feel very badly for them. In Indian culture, even though the boys are usually very humiliated by the nude punishments, at least they get over it quickly because it’s so widely accepted as a form of boy punishment (and girl duty), and the boys know that they are not alone by any means, because ALL the boys around them must face the same nudity on a regular basis.

    Female modesty is so sacred in our culture that even when a mother or guardian is changing the diaper of even the youngest of baby girls, he/she keeps a small sheet over the baby girl to shield her genital region from male eyes. On the other hand, most of the time baby boys get their diapers changed right out in the open, almost as if they were the subject of a public exhibition. The sacredness of the female genitals in Indian culture is derived from the simple fact that females give birth, and so the female genital region is highly revered, and so is never to be casually displayed in front of males. Female genitals have almost God-like qualities in India. And conversely, males, according to Indian culture, simply have no reason to have that degree of modesty.

    Boys in India are generally subjected to this nude punishment up through age 12 or 13. I’m sure this is very surprising to most Americans, but this is based on the general consensus that boys have very “boyish” anatomies up through age 12 or 13, despite the fact that a small minority of boys’ genitals are already quite well-developed by that age. Parents simply don’t make exceptions for these well-developed boys – they just go ahead and punish them nude too. As you can easily imagine, these “minority” cases are especially interesting and pleasurable to us girls! And it’s often especially humiliating for those boys too.

    The girls’ participation duty in the boys’ humiliating punishments in Indian culture is tied to the fact that the Indian girls are naturally raised with many more domestic attitudes and skills than boys, and so the girls’ nurturing abilities/duties fit right into the raising of boys (and younger sisters too). In Indian culture, it is the girls’ duty to assist the parents in the rearing of brothers and sisters and often of cousins too, and as with many things in life, with duties often come certain privileges too. The girls’ privilege to view the boys nude is a very nice benefit of bearing more responsibility for helping to rear siblings than boys have. And so the boys can only WISH they could view the girls’ nude bodies the same way. I guess that’s life, in India in particular. But now I know that at times, some situations are similar in America, as so many have reported here on this forum.

    Also, the reason why Indian boys receive more frequent punishments and harsher punishments than Indian girls is similar to the above logic. Indian girls are naturally more disciplined and compliant than boys and usually have a lot less “natural unharnessed energy” than boys too. Boys need the tough punishments to mold them into conforming men who will support their families, treat females with respect only, and generally be a contributing asset to Indian society, not a public menace.

    Occasionally, even an Indian boy in the age range of 14 through 17 will be given this nude punishment – with pubic hair on display and everything! This doesn’t occur very often, but I have seen it once and heard of it a few more times. It is extraordinarily embarrassing and humiliating to the poor boys who undergo it, because teen boys want very much to be respected and treated as adults, but occasionally when a teen boy displays very “boyish” behavior, a parent will punish him AS A BOY, which of course means nude punishment, just like for a younger boy. It sends the boy the painfully clear message that “If you insist on acting like a little boy, you will be TREATED like one!”

    The one time I saw a 16 year old boy undergo a nude punishment, I was at my girlfriend’s house, and her brother had pushed and pushed her mom until her mom finally forced the nude punishment on him. Usually when an older boy is being punished nude like this, anyone outside the family is sent out of the house. But once in a while, as was the case when I witnessed it, the mom will get so aggravated with the teen boy that she won’t even bother to consider if any outsiders are in the house, she’ll strip her son right then and there, and make him stand with hands on ears or behind his head. I could have taken advantage of that situation much more than I did, because his mom didn’t care at all if I saw him nude. But because I liked the boy and didn’t want to face the embarrassment and awkwardness of seeing him later on, I didn’t gawk at him, but instead I went outside the house on my own. However, I got to confess I did sneak a pretty good peak at his genitals right before I slipped outside, because my natural curiosity got the best of me and I guess I just couldn’t let that very rare opportunity slip by without seeing something! He had quite a mature genital package with a good set of pubic hair. That was definitely a thrilling moment for me!"

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    http://www.voy.com/217785/138.html

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    "Civilization can only revive when there shall come into being in a number of individuals a new tone of mind, independent of the prevalent one among the crowds, and in opposition to it- a tone of mind which will gradually win influence over the collective one, and in the end determine its character. Only an ethical movement can rescue us from barbarism, and the ethical comes into existence only in individuals."

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    One of the replies to the above post about boys' discipline in India said this:

    "Evidently this is not a universal practice in all of India, I work with several 1st and 2nd generation immagrants from India. I mentioned this to them and the laughed...they said who told you that....when I told them about the blog they acted like they had never heard of it. The were Singh's and several Patel's from the Punjab area. Not saying you are making this up, but they were were serious they had never heard of this...do you have anywhere we could research this?"

    "Civilization can only revive when there shall come into being in a number of individuals a new tone of mind, independent of the prevalent one among the crowds, and in opposition to it- a tone of mind which will gradually win influence over the collective one, and in the end determine its character. Only an ethical movement can rescue us from barbarism, and the ethical comes into existence only in individuals."

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    Re: Punishment of boys vs girls

    I think, something is totally wrong with this website, a place for nudity-fantasies...made in USA...adult-site

    Most is written out of fantasy I guess...Nudity is much restricted in USA.
    I do not know why these American people feel so bashful.

    Nudity in public is something, what is disturbing people in USA, but it is not everywhere like that.

    If you travel around in poor areas in Cambodia or Philippines, you will see many nude children playing in the streets, up to elementary school about, 6 y. o. old or so...nobody cares...

    You will see many girls and women of any age breastfree, and also mothers sometimes feeding children, and also old women especially in black Africa, but also in Asia, nobody cares...

    In the beach-condominium-building in Thailand, where I spend my holidays, with private pool, you will see women from Scandinavia swimming without covering the upper part of their body, nobody cares.

    In Europe, there are also private beaches for total nudity, for families, with children, both gender, any age...no problem.

    I was visiting India only for short time and long time ago. I cannot comment about private life in India, but treatment of children, both boys and girls is very harsh there, all is possible in the slums to be happen.
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    Re: Punishment of boys vs girls

    Many areas in the US aren't exactly tropical even in the summertime.

    In my state, we're lucky to get over the 70 degree (Farenheit) mark in late July...lol!

    "Civilization can only revive when there shall come into being in a number of individuals a new tone of mind, independent of the prevalent one among the crowds, and in opposition to it- a tone of mind which will gradually win influence over the collective one, and in the end determine its character. Only an ethical movement can rescue us from barbarism, and the ethical comes into existence only in individuals."

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    Where I'm from, the weather is very unpredictable!

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    Re: Punishment of boys vs girls

    the pussy pass factor discounts the punishment by 90 % to I00 %

    sometimes the punishment is meted out to a proxy ( typically a male acquaintance)

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    Ah that site again. It is a porn site dedicated to a fetish called cfnm (clothed female - naked male). Why did I know? Because an article about it was posted here before (about female reporters in locker rooms) and if you follow some links on that thingie you will know what I mean. So I wouldn´t take anything to serious on that site. Besides India´s population is so huge it wouldn´t surprise me that 20 million people do not know what some other 20 million people do.
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    Ah that site again. It is a porn site dedicated to a fetish called cfnm (clothed female - naked male).
    Would be nice when items like this are posted to put NSFW somewhere in the post for those of us browsing at work.

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    Would be nice when items like this are posted to put NSFW somewhere in the post for those of us browsing at work.
    And that was exactly what I was thinking in the original post.
    The men's and fathers' movement needs to make sure it never sees females as the enemy,
    but only misandry--whether from females or from males.
    If not, we'll become like the bigoted feminists that this movement was formed to oppose.
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    hi my name is ashwin in southindia most of the families folow this nude punishment. for boys it is a very shame full punishment to boys. when i was 14 we lived in a town in south india one day i did a big mistake so my mom and father made me nude i was standing nude for 4 hours outside my house in road i was crying but they did not alow me inside the house for 4 hours it was a very big humilation for me because 100 people loked and laugh over me standing nude in front of girls is very dificult it is a severe nude humilation.

    then second severe punishment is burns punishement .very severe one heating the metal and heping in ass leg etc very hard one.

    still some peopel folow this punishment we have to stop this one because i suffered to much nude for 4 hours that time my age is 14 i was crying for a weak i did not went outside for a month

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    my name is aswin i live in india south in southindia people use to folow this nude punishment .it is very severe when i was 14 i did a big mistake so my mom and dad made me nude and i was standing nude for 4 hours special thing is they made me nude and i was standing nude in street for 4 hours very big humilation i was crying 100 of males and females was waching me it was very severe for me

    still 50 percent of parents following this nude punishment it is not good it has to be stoped because standing nude in public in front of girls some people use to laugh.that time i started crying. it has to be stoped

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    Is this for real?
    Our new member Ashwin from India seems to confirm it. And I bet some of our other Indian members (and there's quite a few now) would back it up.

    The sacredness of the female genitals in Indian culture is derived from the simple fact that females give birth, and so the female genital region is highly revered, and so is never to be casually displayed in front of males. Female genitals have almost God-like qualities in India. And conversely, males, according to Indian culture, simply have no reason to have that degree of modesty.
    The sacredness of the female genitals?

    Female genital region is highly revered?

    Female genitals have almost God-like qualities in India?

    For fucks sake, come down to planet earth!!

    It's the same frigging insanity and arrogance that exists in the western world. No wonder women are such natural chauvinists and expecting special treatment. Isn't the vagina monologues the extreme expression of this?

    God-like qualities my arse! A woman's vagina should be no more revered than a man's penis, something simply serving a reproductive function - like that of a mouse, a pig or a horse, nothing more.

    Want to be revered? Then do something worthy of it in your own life.
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    my name is aswin i live in india south in southindia people use to folow this nude punishment .it is very severe when i was 14 i did a big mistake so my mom and dad made me nude and i was standing nude for 4 hours special thing is they made me nude and i was standing nude in street for 4 hours very big humilation i was crying 100 of males and females was waching me it was very severe for me

    still 50 percent of parents following this nude punishment it is not good it has to be stoped because standing nude in public in front of girls some people use to laugh.that time i started crying. it has to be stoped
    That's very sad, Ashwin.

    The humiliation must have been unbearable.

    I agree, it should be stopped.

    But how?

    I imagine one way is to not do this to your own children. Another way might be to talk about this to other parents.

    Thanks for sharing your story.

    "Civilization can only revive when there shall come into being in a number of individuals a new tone of mind, independent of the prevalent one among the crowds, and in opposition to it- a tone of mind which will gradually win influence over the collective one, and in the end determine its character. Only an ethical movement can rescue us from barbarism, and the ethical comes into existence only in individuals."

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