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    Paid sex criminalised

    Harriet Har-men is at it again! She is determined to imprison as many men as she can.




    http://politics.guardian.co.uk/homea...165900,00.html
    Men who buy sex could face prosecution



    Tania Branigan, political correspondent
    Monday September 10, 2007
    The Guardian


    Ministers are considering proposals to prosecute men for buying sex in a new effort to curb the demand for prostitution, the Guardian has learned.
    Senior members of the government are discussing whether to criminalise the purchase, rather than sale, of sex - as Sweden did eight years ago - in part because of the growth in sex trafficking. According to the government, 85% of women in brothels come from outside the UK.
    men have been convicted for trafficking women into Britain, but none has been prosecuted for paying for sex with women or girls forced into the sex trade.


    One minister acknowledged the move would be "quite a dramatic step", but added: "There's no doubt whatsoever it's being talked about. There is increasing awareness among senior ministers, particularly women, that demand for prostitution is an area which needs to be tackled seriously and hasn't been."
    A number of senior women in government - including Jacqui Smith, the home secretary; Patricia Scotland, the attorney general; Vera Baird, solicitor general; and Harriet Harman, leader of the house - are thought to be sympathetic to the calls.
    Other proposals being considered include large-scale programmes to name and shame men caught kerbcrawling, which is already illegal. But campaigners believe that only by criminalising clients can they help women working in brothels as well as on the streets and send out a signal that paying for sex is not acceptable.
    Fiona Mactaggart MP, who as a home office minister was in charge of tackling prostitution until last year, said: "The criminal justice bill that comes back on the first day [after the parliamentary recess] includes changes to the prostitution strategy. It would be possible to put into it some amendment which deals with this issue of men who pay for sex," she said.
    She dismissed arguments that prostitution was an inevitable part of society, adding: "We have always had murder - that doesn't make it right. The price of prostitution is enormously high for women...[And] the more vulnerable the woman is, the cheaper the price is for men."
    Denis MacShane MP, a former minister and campaigner against sex trafficking, added: "Until you have the Wilberforce moment when you say those who buy [sex] are just as guilty as those who are selling [women], it will continue to grow. It's not until there is a regular flow of men before the courts because they have paid for sex with illegally trafficked sex slaves that we will see a change in culture."
    A Home Office spokeswoman said it had no current plans to criminalise paying for sex. But the Guardian understands that the proposal is being discussed informally with a view to longer-term action.
    The government has won praise from unexpected sources for other socially conservative measures recently, ranging from scrapping plans for a supercasino to launching a review of media violence and its impact on children and young people.
    Sweden criminalised buying sex but decriminalised selling it eight years ago. Supporters of the scheme say it has slashed the number of brothels and clients and cut the level of sex trafficking into the country to hundreds of women. But some critics have suggested that women who remain in the sex industry have become more vulnerable as a result of the reforms. In a recent study by the Child and Woman Abuse Studies Unit at London Metropolitan University, researchers asked men arrested for kerbcrawling to pick from a list of factors which might deter them from buying sex. While some agreed that large fines or being publicly shamed would do so, none cited knowing that a woman was forced into prostitution.

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    Re: Paid sex criminalised

    .....by the same logic criminalise drug users?
    How many women are actually forced into prostitution?


    "the price of prostitution is enormously high for women"
    ...so if women want a male ho make it cheaper then?


    these women who chose to be prostitutes...


    "Child and Woman Abuse Studies Unit at London Metropolitan University"
    ..
    ....smells like feminazis to me


    "It's not until there is a regular flow of men before the courts
    (my emphasis )because they have paid for sex with illegally trafficked sex slaves that we will see a change in culture."

    She does not really need to finish the sentence that is what she really wants not an end to prostitution.

    I never ever would go to a whore its also sad and degrading for men IMO.
    I do feel sorry for the poor suckers that get addicted who then meet the hypocrisy of the state who help create the social conditions that encourage prostitution.
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    Re: Paid sex criminalised

    How can I respect the authority of a government that does not respect the sexual autonomy of people involved with sex work, while at the same time insisting that disrespecting the sexual autonomy of "decent" women is a heinous offense?

    Either people decide over their own sexuality or someone else does. In the latter case the government is just as guilty as the pimp that forces his girlfriend into prostitution.

    Sanctimonious gits.
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    Just another way to control men... control their sexuality, control them.....

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    Re: Paid sex criminalised

    Notice who's talking about making it illegal to pay for sex... two women

    xhttp://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007420128,00.html

    MEN who pay for sex may soon be prosecuted, it was claimed last night.
    That is sexist for singling out men and ridiculous. Paying for sex is just like buying a service from someone. In this case sex. This concept is ancient and is not a problem by itself. It needs to become legal in more countries, because prostitution is one of the oldest professions in human history.

    Illegalising it causes more problems since it would move this massive section of the sex industry completely into the criminal sector which results in much worse treatment, harder to monitor, inspect etc. It's not a solution but a invitation for more problems, since this sector stays active due to continuous demand.

    Those women are anti-male retards.
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    state sector parasites


    good one Drex I must remember that one ... thats a fine bit of alliteration you concocted there...
    feminism is a disease the Doc is working on a cure. Symptoms include compulsive liar, constant aggression, allergic to logic, often affects women who are fat with short hair and big earings, but can be normal looking.
    Reason tablets three taken daily. If the sufferer displays shaming tactics double the dose. Remarkably the illness disappears in disaster zones.

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    Re: Paid sex criminalised

    Here's some more background information

    http://www.bayswan.org/swed/swed_index.html

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