wow, I'm surprised my contribution wasn't censored and it got up voted so much......

Here it is:
TPHon 24 Mar 2012 at 4:15 pm

The MRM is a direct response to inequitable treatment of men and boys by the state, law enforcement, judicial systems, and feminists. Equating men standing up for their rights as men as a hate movement shows how desperate those in power have become. You cannot elevate one gender by tearing down the other gender. That premise works both ways for males and females.

I believe in equality, true equality. Not a gender biased equality with inequity built in to “level the playing field”. As a man I have seen the blatant inequity and sexism in our society. Sexism against men and boys because of the fallacy that males are inherently violent and potential rapists and abusers.

The term “Misandry” is used to denote a hatred of males by either females or males themselves. Misandry is everywhere in our society. Look at how men are portrayed in the media, in sitcoms, in advertisements.

When a man is with a woman in an advertisement, he is bumbling, stupid, not even capable of tying his shoes without a woman’s help. The woman is of course smart and sassy with an I.Q of Einstein and the patience and compassion of Mother Theresa.

Want to see a perfect example of misandry and the glorification of violence by a woman against a man? Google the Dannon Oikos Superbowl commercial.

Dannon thought it would be funny to show a woman viciously head butting a man over a spoon of yoghurt.

That is misandry. That is violence against men by a woman portrayed as funny.

Spend some time and look at all that surrounds you with an un-jaundiced eye. Misandry and anti-male sentiment is right there in the open for all to see.

The problem is that the majority of society accepts anti-male sexism without pushing back and saying that it is wrong to discriminate against men and boys simply because of their gender.

The MRM movement is here to stay as long as anti-male sentiments, laws, and poor treatment of men and boys exists.

We’re here. Get used to us standing up for our rights as men.

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You should copy/paste comments you post there on to this site too, so we can see who said what, when and whether it has been censored by the originating site.

It was removed because it did not comply with the unwritten rules that are prevalent on all such sites that invite commentary but insist on censoring comments they would rather folk did not see.

Indeed, the truth is not something that such folks are primarily concerned with.

Hiding the truth or making opponents look bad is the main thing they are about. They act as a "fly paper" to MRA's,
and I say they should be ignored as it is feeding into their hands to be dealing with them in any way. I think MRA's aught to concentrate on trying to organise and correct other MRA's, not try and convert misandrists, such is a waste of energy and often backfires badly..

I have written in a few places about the futility of many activities of "online" activists, and I think I really should write something serious regards this as I recognise this problem as being a very major one for MRA's. It dissipates a vast amount of time and energy that could be much better spent.

In order to get a comment past the censors, one has to not only write in the politically correct style, one has to use the correct "buzz words" to be listened to.. However these words are dangerous words that are loaded. If one avoids them and chooses other words, or other ways to express a point, it could be the case that the censor get an impression that makes him or her feel uncomfortable, rather than risk leaving the comment up, it will be deleted.. Doesn't need to be profane, or whatever, it just needs to be the case that THEY DON'T WANT FOLK TO SEE IT!

I would compare commenting on misandric media articles as being like going to court to make a case, but being told you can only use a limited number of words on the dictionary (that they will not tell you what they are) and you must say anything that is not on their list or that they don't like..

Why do misandrists write articles and invite comments?

Is it because they really want to have an open discusssion about the issues?

No. They have already made their mind up. It is because they want to goad MRA's and want to show the world what a bunch of knobs they are..

They want to "mould" the ones that use to "correct" terms (sexism, equality, etc..) into good compliant femistatists.. (Which they know that job is already 75% done by the fact that they are using the PC terms already in all their communications very liberally..)..

The ones that are clearly low iq knob heads, or otherwise deranged, but can manage to avoid swearing etc.. They allow to be shown to the world as that often works in the favour of the misandrist..

To get a useful comment through the censors that can have a good effect, requires a great talent at sneaking a seed through that will give food for thought in the right direction.. Yet not disturb the mind of the censor..

The fact of the matter is, often, when one has gone through the process of diluting what one thinks in order to get it through, it has become so weakened and ineffective it has little or no clout when it is approved..

It is rather like throwing paper planes at a lace curtain, when one is trying to get the effect of a brick through the window..

This is why I rarely, if ever comment on forums and sites that are not solidly "on side" with the cause.

And even then, I find that often the folks who censor such commentary, even within the cause, have been so affected by their experiences of trying to get commentary accepted in "enemy turf", that they want to see the same language used within the "on side" areas..

This of course, represents a victory for the enemy and in many ways is exactly what the enemy is trying to do to control the thoughts and growth of the MRM towards what the dominant femistate misandrists would like to see..

"Slactivism" is a dangerous thing!

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You should copy/paste comments you post there on to this site too, so we can see who said what, when and whether it has been censored by the originating site.

Indeed.

I did not for a moment think my comment could be removed for any reason because quite simply it was pretty straightforward and could only be taken offensively by someone who has a very serious problem with facing reality..

I would have copied it here had I though it might have been removed.

I did consider it, but I don't usually like to connect my identity here with that elsewhere..

The gist of what I wrote was that men are rightly concerned about the lies of women in important areas such as paternity fraud etc and if this is deemed misogyny then others would say it more a case of showing appropriate respect to fraudsters..

If misogyny is mistrust of women (as the dictionary says!) then this a sensible thing in an environment where women are incentivised to lie.

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5 Responses to “‘Men’s Rights Movement’ SymbolizesGrowing Nationwide Misogyny”

• # Sivanon 23 Mar 2012 at 10:49 pm
  Feminists are misandrists. Oppressive laws enacted by judiciary forced men to fight for their own rights. Beware feminists! men are joining hands against your oppression and hatred for us. Men will fight back. Thank god that men are only fighting their rights peacefully. They have not taken arms and ammunition in their hands yet. Read history and you will know that men can fight back successfully.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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• # reficulon 24 Mar 2012 at 5:38 am
  “Author of the report Arthur Goldwag writes that virtual threats of violence against women online appear to have real world consequences…”
  and further as an example of this violence against women:
  “… he lit himself on fire outside of a New Hampshire courthouse”
  Poor women had to suffer being told that a man dared to lit himself on fire… Any advice on how can we help them? Maybe add some clause to VAWA to give some funding for psychological help to these poor little creatures having to suffer so much…
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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• # War on Menon 24 Mar 2012 at 9:07 am
  It’s disturbing to see this misandrist WAR ON MEN continue unabated by Mark Potak and other repressive and matriarchal liberal women. But it’s heartening to know their are millions of men fighting back against the sexist slurs of “Deadbeat Dads” and “Child-Men”.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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• # Lettow-Vorbeckon 24 Mar 2012 at 11:08 am
  This author of this article is either misinformed or being disingenuous. There is no link at all between the recent anti-abortion bills proposed by various states and the loose collection of blogs called the “Manosphere.”
  The recent legislation isn’t about hating women. The bill from Ohio was co-sponsored by many female, Republican representatives. I haven’t investigated the co-sponsors of the other bills but that is not necessary. It is not misogynistic men doing this. It is the religious right. Millions of men and women in America who believe that a fetus is a person with a right to life. Trying to paint this as amisogyny issue is dishonest and it totally ignores the voices of conservative women who’s values are represented by the male and female politicians in the state legislature.
  The Manosphere is far, far less conservative than the Republican party. To conflate the two is ridiculous. There are some conservative MRAs but they do not represent the majority.
  Also, Thomas Ball immolated himself ten years after he was seperated from his daughter. Most of the websites listed didn’t even exist then. The author is trying to make it sound like those websites made him hit his daughter and then commit suicide, which is incredibly dishonest. It’s not the first time a father self-immolated. A man in Australia did it and in the 90′s an Italian man attempted to do it during a television interview
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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• # Lettow-Vorbeckon 24 Mar 2012 at 11:18 am
  I’d like to state that I am neither a Republican or a Liberal. I am not conservative or progressive. I am not really an MRA either.
  I am a man who grew up in the 90′s saturated by all that grrrl power attitude and misandry. I was told that women should be treated as equals but I saw that this ideal of so called equality only flew when it benefited women.
  I won’t stay silent and hang my head when someone bashes men anymore. I won’t be assaulted by a female and do nothing about it. I won’t hear people spew specious feminist memes and leave them unchallenged. This is what the Manosphere is about.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Couldnt find it in the cache, must have gone later.. This is what was in the cache..




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5 Responses to “‘Men’s Rights Movement’ SymbolizesGrowing Nationwide Misogyny”

• # Sivanon 23 Mar 2012 at 10:49 pm
  Feminists are misandrists. Oppressive laws enacted by judiciary forced men to fight for their own rights. Beware feminists! men are joining hands against your oppression and hatred for us. Men will fight back. Thank god that men are only fighting their rights peacefully. They have not taken arms and ammunition in their hands yet. Read history and you will know that men can fight back successfully.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Rating: 5.0/5 (10 votes cast)
• # reficulon 24 Mar 2012 at 5:38 am
  “Author of the report Arthur Goldwag writes that virtual threats of violence against women online appear to have real world consequences…”
  and further as an example of this violence against women:
  “… he lit himself on fire outside of a New Hampshire courthouse”
  Poor women had to suffer being told that a man dared to lit himself on fire… Any advice on how can we help them? Maybe add some clause to VAWA to give some funding for psychological help to these poor little creatures having to suffer so much…
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Rating: 5.0/5 (5 votes cast)
• # War on Menon 24 Mar 2012 at 9:07 am
  It’s disturbing to see this misandrist WAR ON MEN continue unabated by Mark Potak and other repressive and matriarchal liberal women. But it’s heartening to know their are millions of men fighting back against the sexist slurs of “Deadbeat Dads” and “Child-Men”.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Rating: 5.0/5 (3 votes cast)
• # Lettow-Vorbeckon 24 Mar 2012 at 11:08 am
  This author of this article is either misinformed or being disingenuous. There is no link at all between the recent anti-abortion bills proposed by various states and the loose collection of blogs called the “Manosphere.”
  The recent legislation isn’t about hating women. The bill from Ohio was co-sponsored by many female, Republican representatives. I haven’t investigated the co-sponsors of the other bills but that is not necessary. It is not misogynistic men doing this. It is the religious right. Millions of men and women in America who believe that a fetus is a person with a right to life. Trying to paint this as amisogyny issue is dishonest and it totally ignores the voices of conservative women who’s values are represented by the male and female politicians in the state legislature.
  The Manosphere is far, far less conservative than the Republican party. To conflate the two is ridiculous. There are some conservative MRAs but they do not represent the majority.
  Also, Thomas Ball immolated himself ten years after he was seperated from his daughter. Most of the websites listed didn’t even exist then. The author is trying to make it sound like those websites made him hit his daughter and then commit suicide, which is incredibly dishonest. It’s not the first time a father self-immolated. A man in Australia did it and in the 90′s an Italian man attempted to do it during a television interview
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Rating: 5.0/5 (2 votes cast)
• # Lettow-Vorbeckon 24 Mar 2012 at 11:18 am
  I’d like to state that I am neither a Republican or a Liberal. I am not conservative or progressive. I am not really an MRA either.
  I am a man who grew up in the 90′s saturated by all that grrrl power attitude and misandry. I was told that women should be treated as equals but I saw that this ideal of so called equality only flew when it benefited women.
  I won’t stay silent and hang my head when someone bashes men anymore. I won’t be assaulted by a female and do nothing about it. I won’t hear people spew specious feminist memes and leave them unchallenged. This is what the Manosphere is about.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Rating: 5.0/5 (3 votes cast)

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...the belief that women cannot be trusted has support in the growing community of the so-called men’s and father’s rights movement.

Since when was this such news that the belief needs to be mentioned as though it only belongs to particular groups of people.

People lie. People cannot be trusted all the time. It doesn't matter if they are male or female, to assume that they can always be trusted is pathetically naive.

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Women, specifically Western women, are blamed for oppressing men through false accusations of abuse and rape, through divorce, and for generally demanding equality in the social and legal realms.

What a load of lies.

It is feminists (both male and female) and feminism (a belief structure and activism movement) that is blamed for oppressing men through false accusations of abuse and rape, by creating and promoting a divorce system that is proving disastrous for society, and for generally demanding special privileges at the expense of men and children in the social, political and legal realms. Those who blame feminists are both men and women.

Almost all those that do not believe in homogenous equality would be content if true social and legal equality existed, or if equality stopped at "equal opportunity" instead of moving on to "equal outcome" wherever equal opportunity did not give feminists an advantage.

The great myth that woman are oppressed, or indeed ever were, (compared to the lethal oppression of men that has always been much more prevalent and has taken a vastly greater toll on the male sex) is something that we must realise is complete BS..

Feminists and other social engineers who speak of "equality" for women are a joke..

There has never been any movement for women that demands a equal death toll or sufferring in any regared to those endured by the male sex.

For this reason alone, it is evidence enough to completely disregard the duckspeak of feminists.

Men must press on with their manly concerns. (Fortunately for women, men have a great regard for women and wish to include them in their plans, as would make perfect sense for any many wishing to have a good family life)..

If the statists make it worthless, unprofitable or otherwise too stressful for men to behave as men behave, there will come a time when men will, en masse, simply drop out and fail to support such a system..

This is already happening. And women, certainly don't like it!

So, women need to learn their place sooner rather than later, because the longer they leave it, the less likely it will be that men will even want to give them a place at all..

Quote from Douglas

Since when was this such news that the belief needs to be mentioned as though it only belongs to particular groups of people.

People lie. People cannot be trusted all the time. It doesn't matter if they are male or female, to assume that they can always be trusted is pathetically naive.

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What a load of lies.

It is feminists (both male and female) and feminism (a belief structure and activism movement) that is blamed for oppressing men through false accusations of abuse and rape, by creating and promoting a divorce system that is proving disastrous for society, and for generally demanding special privileges at the expense of men and children in the social, political and legal realms. Those who blame feminists are both men and women.

Almost all those that do not believe in homogenous equality would be content if true social and legal equality existed, or if equality stopped at "equal opportunity" instead of moving on to "equal outcome" wherever equal opportunity did not give feminists an advantage.

Only the women who make false accusations of abuse and rape (not sure what is meant by "through divorce", if that was related to the oppressing, or false accusations. Sloppy writing) are blamed for those false accusations. If they want to stop being blamed, maybe they could stop with the false accusations. Just sayin'.

Also, the anti-feminists more than welcome women who demand equality. It's just that those in positions of privilege are often reluctant to give up that privilege, and so feminists, far from asking for equality, demand more and more special treatment.

Quote from felixblue

The great myth that woman are oppressed, or indeed ever were, (compared to the lethal oppression of men that has always been much more prevalent and has taken a vastly greater toll on the male sex) is something that we must realise is complete BS..

Feminists and other social engineers who speak of "equality" for women are a joke..

There has never been any movement for women that demands a equal death toll or sufferring in any regared to those endured by the male sex.

For this reason alone, it is evidence enough to completely disregard the duckspeak of feminists.

Men must press on with their manly concerns. (Fortunately for women, men have a great regard for women and wish to include them in their plans, as would make perfect sense for any many wishing to have a good family life)..

If the statists make it worthless, unprofitable or otherwise too stressful for men to behave as men behave, there will come a time when men will, en masse, simply drop out and fail to support such a system..

This is already happening. And women, certainly don't like it!

So, women need to learn their place sooner rather than later, because the longer they leave it, the less likely it will be that men will even want to give them a place at all..

The thinking-MRA's view in a nutshell!!

What we don't know, is how long it's going to take to pan out. Hasta la vittoria sempre!

Ya know,all those excellent comments,then someone has to post this shit;

michaelon 26 Mar 2012 at 11:15 am ” He wrote, “[t]he federal government declared a war on men. It is time, boys, to give them a taste of war.”

”
You claim we’re “violent” ? It’s HIGH TIME we give ‘em what they assume and want and attack the mangina’s who protect these women for their own selfish reasons !

This kinda thing does no one any favours.