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Men are so advantaged in our society that many of them become enraged at any effort to level out the playing field and see it as discrimination against men. The truth is that men are not even aware of the many, many ways in which they are advantaged. They think they are entitled.

Show me one single mother who will refer to herself as 'babysitting' when she is at home with her children. But many, many men refer to it this way.

As for low paying jobs: low skilled jobs that are predominately taken by males are much more highly paid than similarly skilled jobs that are predominately taken by women.

In identical jobs, given identical job reviews, males are likely to be given higher wages.

Now add all the extra money, extra free time, fewer childcare responsibilities, fewer home care responsibilities, add all that up ... and remember that women also pay more for identical services (hair cuts, t-shirts, shoes, etc.) and are much more likely to be scammed or over-charged by tradespeople and garages, etc., etc.

Then there is the work of society - it helping out a neighbour, an elderly parent, etc. Also predominately done by women.

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"men are not even aware of the many, many ways in which they are advantaged." And it's very, very much the same for women. The difference is, women have bigoted groups (feminists) who keep telling women "you're oppressed" when in fact, they're elevated far, far above men.
Men put their lives at risk to support women - not many women will reciprocate.

"Show me one single mother who will refer to herself as 'babysitting' when she is at home with her children. But many, many men refer to it this way." - Funny, my experience is the complete opposite. Not that women call themselves "babysitters" but rather many women (mothers, grans, medical professionals, etc.) will refer to fathers as babysitters. e.g. I was the SAHD for my daughter while her Mother had a well paying job (I couldn't work due to immigration laws). My wife complained of tiredness and spent most of her (free) time hiding in the bedroom. The female therapist suggested, "Perhaps you could babysit when your wife gets home?" I told her straight how offensive that was - she didn't apologize.

"In identical jobs, given identical job reviews, males are likely to be given higher wages." - but no mention of holidays taken, sickness days off, etc. etc. In my job (female dominated/care-work) I take the least time off for the entire company, including my female manager.

"and are much more likely to be scammed or over-charged by tradespeople and garages, etc., etc." - Again, my experience is opposite. My female friend always gets preferential prices at garages. I take her with me when buying car parts to ensure better prices.

"Then there is the work of society - it helping out a neighbour, an elderly parent, etc. Also predominately done by women." because more women have more TIME to do so due to working LESS hours.

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The second comment I posted above is not mine.

To show a name for each comment, to help differentiate different people when quoting multiple people, use:

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Ok Marx,sorry.


CBC actually let my last comment through.....amazing

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Ok Marx,sorry.

Not a problem, I was just letting you know how to use the quote tags so you wouldn't have to explain each time who was saying what.

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CBC actually let my last comment through.....amazing

Yep, and I thumbed it up.

I did the same for you.

This is precisely the type of story where mra's should pile in and make their opinion's known.

Your silence is important-feminist's demand it.

Not saying anything is like letting them get away with this type of regurgitated garbage.

How many times will the wage gap myth be debunked before folk embarrassingly desist in churning out a childish contention?

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How many times will the wage gap myth be debunked before folk embarrassingly desist in churning out a childish contention?

That depends on the ability of feminists to acknowledge lies as being wrong. Most of them, in my experience, happily regurgitate lie after lie having been told it by other feminists. Until feminists begin taking an objective view of the world, instead of their 'blame men and teh patriarchy' one-size-fits-all answer, they will continue repeating misandric lies designed to force a wedge of hate between the sexes.

In recent years the focus has been on statistics showing women outperforming men in school, graduating in greater numbers than men from university and increasingly becoming the primary breadwinners in their families. So it is easy to forget that women in Canada still earn on average 25 per cent less than men do and do the bulk of housework and child care, according to the most recent figures from Statistics Canada."

Interesting, how they mention examples of females doing better than men, without feeling the need to explain how these examples are oh-so-conveniently not down to discrimination against males; before then mentioning examples of males doing better than females......without feeling the need to explain how these examples ARE oh-so-conveniently discrimination against FEMALES. They're so wrapped up in their own agenda, that they realise not the transparency of their reasoning.

I also find this constant talk of "housework" to be typically-one-sided. I mean, what does that term encompass? I could constantly moan about "yardwork", and paint similarly a misleading picture about who does the most work in a traditional household. Feminism seems to be so self-absorbed, that men's roles and contributions are all-but-forgotten, these days.

On a related note, my parents have just gone back up country, having visited me and Josh for the weekend. They had to drive 150 miles down, yesterday, and are now driving back. Guess which of my parents does the driving? I wonder, does the fact that men almost always do the driving, often long distances, ever factor in their 'research'? Actually, I don't wonder at all. Still, it's obviously still sexist against women, anyway. I mean, women everywhere are grabbing the steering wheels of their family cars, BEGGING with their horrible, oppressive husbands, to let them do the tiring driving, aren't they?

Added after 16 minutes:

According to the 2010-2011 Statistics Canada survey of women's economic and employment status, women earned only 75 per cent of what men did in 2009, and the wage gap was even greater if all employed men and women — and not just full-year, full-time workers — were considered: in that larger grouping, women earned only 69 per cent of what men did.

A great example of sensationalism, in an article. Why make the second point? It's merely illustrating how women are more likely to take part-time work, and hence, obviously, earn less.

Child care responsibilities still fall largely to women, who spend more than twice the time doing unpaid child care than men, according to 2010 figures from Statistics Canada.
Even when government supports exist to encourage men to do their share, they don't always do so, it seems. Only 30 per cent of new fathers made use of the parental leave they were entitled to in 2009, Statistics Canada found. That was up slightly from 28 per cent the previous year but nowhere near the 88 per cent of new mothers who drew maternity or parental benefits.

Or, another way of looking at it: even when women have the chance to do their share of work for their career, they don't always do so, it seems. Only 12% of new mothers chose to focus on their careers entirely, by not taking any leave, which was nowhere near the 70% of fathers who chose to do so.

Actually, conveniently, I can't say that the "70%" figure is right. Why? Because, the author has been very sneaky, in making the disparity look as great as possible, by quoting the number of mothers who took any leave AT ALL, as compared to the number of men who "made use of the parental leave they were entitled to". This figure, hence, includes women who took any leave AT ALL, but only men who took ALL of their leave, surely? Nice try, sister!

In Canada, women spent an average of 13.8 hours a week on domestic chores in 2009 versus 8.3 hours for men

Well, being as you've just spent ages going on about how men have a greater role in the workforce, what do you expect?

You know BD, sometimes a reluctance to engage beyond the wider beyond is born of more personally pressing issues. I've always considered myself to be a loyal patriot, but when you give 'destructive service' to your country as a man, you become ignored after the 'destruction' is final. The enemy doesn't reside thousands of miles away, it's here in our own proverbial backyard! And men are the modern convenient salem-witchcrafted whipping-boys!

My comment (not accepted, as yet; and, realistically, probably never-to-be):

Feminism is so transparent, it's untrue. Articles such as these are typically one-sided, in that they look at only the parts of the picture that suit their agenda. So, men earn more than women? Sure thing. They also have far less interrupted careers, work longer hours on average, take more dangerous jobs, are more willing to commute for work and work antisocial hours. This isn't employers discriminating against women; it's the inevitable outcome of men and women's differing CHOICES. If women would work with the same experience, the same hours, the same productivity and so forth, for X amount less than men, why would anyone employ men, to begin with?! Perhaps those who buy into the 'wage gap' myth could enlighten me, on this one?

And women do more housework, than men? Well, yes, they do do more HOUSEwork; in the same way men do more decorating, plastering, fixing things, taking the rubbish out, walking in the rain to get food, driving, and MORE PAID WORK. The article alludes to the fact that men work more hours, in the workforce; if, in the 'average' relationship, the man works slightly more, isn't it only fair, that the woman does a little more housework?

Another good example of the bias, lies early on, in which the fact that females outperform males in education, is lauded as being to the credit of females, whilst, in the same paragraph, men's higher earnings are condemned as being down to discrimination. So, when females do better, it's because they're...........doing better; when males do better, however, it's because females are being held back. Very convenient. As always, with feminism: equality is only sought where it benefits females.
How more people can't see the bias of feminism, is utterly beyond me.

Feminism is a religion. A false religion, but a religion none the less.

Another example of a dialogue which further convinces me to form my opinions on a case-by-case, rather than cause-vs-cause, basis.

It reminds me of the Star Trek episode about the little whirling cloud that took over the Enterprise and had the Earthlings fighting the Klingons with swords for its own amusement and self-perpetuation.

Actually, I think Miss Andree and Miss Hodgney, though vague and incomplete records suggest they are identical twins and of indeterminate gender or sexual orientation, ought to get married. They have so much in common...

I tried another comment;

No CBC feminist bias moderation and censorship on this "story".
Nope,none at all.
Makes one wonder what CBC is trying to hide?

My comment's yet to be posted; but then, I haven't seen any new ones, since I posted (with the possible exception of one, which wasn't there when I first viewed the article, but may have been posted whilst I was composing my reply). Still, I won't be holding my breath. I would stress, once more, however, that it is worthwhile registering and posting; registering is annoying, but at least posting in such a way stands to get our message out to 'inbetweeners' (i.e. those who stand to be swayed (unlike feminists; you can't cure the terminally-stupid, lost causes that they are; and unlike MRAs, who already know the score perfectly)).