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Men's Achilles Heel.

This is a discussion on Men's Achilles Heel. within the Discrimination & Sexist Double Standards anti misandry forums, part of the Why We're Here category; Men, in general, have an ingrained habit as far as women are concerned, of shooting themselves in the foot. Some ...

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    Men's Achilles Heel.


    Men, in general, have an ingrained habit as far as women are concerned, of shooting themselves in the foot.

    Some men never grow out of it.

    What swims in the shallow waters of a man's brain?
    Sam de Brito
    June 10, 2012


    Do you ever wonder what the French women who dated the Nazis occupying Paris were like?

    No doubt some of them were terrified, doing what they could to protect their families and friends, and keep a good camembert on the table.

    Others? I'd speculate they were just looking for the path of least resistance (pardon the pun), the World War II version of the women today you see on the arms of drug dealers, bikies or creepy Hugh Hefner.

    See, I know a woman who I reckon would date a Nazi (and probably creepy Hugh Hefner) just as long as they kept the expensive dinners, trips away and rooms with a view coming.

    This woman is pretty boring, rather duplicitous and not particularly bright. In fact, her only marketable virtues are great legs and a face so beautiful it would make a priest kick a hole in a stained-glass window.

    However, the most annoying thing about her is I know if she caught me after three or four neat single malts and ushered me into a nightclub toilet cubicle, I'd collaborate like Vichy France.

    I could probably even fall in love with her, convincing myself she was into me for me - not my wealth, talent and good looks, oops, wrong guy, that's her boyfriend.

    One of the more frustrating parts of being male - well, this male at least - is being attracted to crappy women; vacuous, venal or just plain nasty chicks.

    Women have this problem, too, the much-documented female attraction to bad boys, jerks and players. But then, I often hear women say: ''Once I knew what a douche he was, I wasn't attracted to him any more.''

    With many guys, even when we find out a woman is completely soulless, if she's hot enough, we'll still go there. Hell, if she's hot enough, we'll marry her.

    Maybe - as is often my mistake - I'm confusing the personal and anecdotal for the norm, because I suffer terribly from this weakness (which is why I never go to strip clubs - far too risky).

    However, I know enough men who share my breathtaking superficiality that it makes me wonder if the desire to bed beautiful, crappy people is not imprinted on the monkey minds of some of us less-evolved primates?

    Good old Hefner seems to be an acute sufferer, having just last week reconciled with his 26-year-old fiancee, Crystal, after she dumped him days before their wedding. She later told US radio host Howard Stern their lovemaking lasted ''like two seconds'' and, staggeringly, that she was ''not turned on by Hef''.

    Still, Hefner, 86, has gone back there and, like many, many men who have admired the wire-service pictures of the fabulously perky Crystal, I say: ''Who can blame him?''

    I consider all the qualities I want in a partner - compassion, intelligence, a sense of humour, loyalty, kindness - and they can be obliterated in an instant on a Friday night by a beautiful face and pair of molten legs.

    Many would argue this is because men like me - who suffer from a compulsion to be with beautiful women - are insecure, that we care more about what others think of us than the heart that beats beside us in bed.

    That's where I have to disagree - because it's not just about her heart, but also her legs, stomach, bottom, breasts, shoulders, neck, mouth and eyes.

    I wish I was joking.

    Read more: What swims in the shallow waters of a man's brain?
    A couple of points:

    1. Beauty is skin deep and if a chap has not heard that a hundred times before he is 20, he is a deaf shit.

    And if he has heard it and disregards it, he is a dull shit.

    2. Almost any woman's attractiveness is determined by the man who looks at her. She may dress to the nines (or the ones for that matter) and spend hours applying cosmetics but that is because deep down she KNOWS that what she presents is a small matter compared to the innate 'desire' of the man who looks at her. She is just trying to swing the balances to her control.

    3. This old saw about women liking 'bad boys' always misses the point. Women who go with the bad guys are not doing it because of those men's 'ability to risk' or their projection of faux-masculinity. It is because these women value themselves so low that they see the coarse and rough men with no integrity and too much false bravado as equals. It is all they can get.

    4. Men.... Value yourselves. Make you selves value-able. Throw the pretences aside. Discard the masks of 'impressiveness'. BE better than yesterday.

    5. Recognise and acknowledge that a pretty girl is a pretty girl. Those qualities are fine as they are and can be acknowledged. But for Lord Harry's sake do not see them as any sort of Treasure to be won or stolen. They ain't yours and it is ONLY you that gives them more value than they are really worth.

    Cum dilectione hominum et odio vitiorum
    Love the Sinner but not the Sin.
    (St. Augustine)

    For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers,
    against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. “
    (and within ourselves)
    (Ephesians 6:12 (KJV)

    A Feminist is a human being who has lost her way and turned vicious.
    If you meet one on the road as you Go your Own Way,
    offer kindness but keep your sword drawn.
    (Me)





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    Re: Men's Achilles Heel.

    Indeed, I agree with you. I think we've all fell for beauty at least once.
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    Re: Men's Achilles Heel.

    The best way of dealing with the pretty mares is to be the jockey, not the stabler!
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    They are so willing to respect other men but the man they make love to and is the father of their children –no way. They try to control him, criticize him,,, " Courtney www.womenlivingwell.org

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    Re: Men's Achilles Heel.

    I think your third point is an interesting one; I've not come across it before and I'll certainly give it some thought and see if it accords with my experience of life so far but my instict is that it is wrong. To my mind "bad boys" often equate to alpha males and in my experience alpha males tend to attract women. Some of those women may indeed lack self esteem but I don't think that that alters the fact that deep in the mentality of women lies an inclination to be sexually attracted to men who project masculinity and power and "bad boys" often do that. You imply that their masculinity is always a sham but I don't know why this should be so and even if it was, and women were conned by it, it would still remain true that they were attracted to this trait which would argue against their attraction arising from lack of self esteem since attraction to alpha males is sensible from an evolutionary point of view.
    Your conclusion that these men are all they can get also seems to fly in the face of evidence since it is often the prettyest women who go for these men; women who could get other men if it is what they wanted.

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    Re: Men's Achilles Heel.

    Pretty women go for "bad boys" mainly because "bad boys" don't give a shit about anything, least of all pretty women..

    Imagine, everywhere you go, you are surrounded by grovelling chaps all trying to impress you..

    All but one of them tries his luck, and he is ignoring you completely, like you don't even exist..

    Naturally, you want to know why..

    So you ask the blokes who will chat with you..

    "Who is that chap?"

    "Oh, thats Roger, you don't want to stand too close to him, you will get pregnant by osmosis.."..

    Curious, you decide to find out more, so you move over to sit down near him..

    Even before your cute little rear touches the seat, Rogers hand has reached out and you have sat on his hand..

    He is grinning and the lads are all laughing..

    Normally, you would throw your drink over a rude man like that, but something tells you that would not be a good idea, in front of his friends, especially since there is something in his grin that suggests that possible impregnation over the table there and then would be a better thing to endure than what he might do if you don't play the game to his rules..

    So, you give him a playful smack, and he wiggles his tongue around while staring at your top rack..

    I won't bother explaining how the rest of it goes..

    But the pool table was the correct height and although it may have been the best 5 minutes of her life I later found myself on the banned list of all the public houses in that town..

    I was surprised, as I often had a "direct action" approach to getting business done when I was younger and far less sane than I am today..

    I had an arrangement with many of the "door security" meatheads.. I helped them get pussy and have fun on their days off.. they looked after me when I was being a dickhead..

    They didn't like that deal much.. And they liked even less that I used to plonk their bitches.. I made the mistake of plonking each and every one of their haddocks in the same week and telling them about it.. actually, I did it in front of them, in bars, clubs, pool halls, their houses.. They didn't find it funny when they were ALL affected.. Although when it was just one of them the others would laugh and tell the poor sap "Roger has done you a favour mate.. she's a slag.. the stunt dick has proved it!"..

    What attracts pretty women to bad boys?

    Who gives a fuck..

    What attracts bad boys to pretty women, who are being wasted on stupid blokes who don't know what to do with their haddocks?

    Life is shit, then you die, some folks are scared to live, too timid to take risks, and where does it get them when some slice of pie can come along and have them acting like little puppy dogs grovelling and begging for the wound?

    Its easy to regret the "stupidity" of ones youth, to look back and say "I wish I hadn't done that" etc..

    But that's just life.. We can't go round telling young men to not do the things we did, and we can't even tell them what is right or wrong, what is good or bad..

    Because, every generation of young men has to work it out for himself..

    It's up to us old farts to help them work it out..

    By the way, that entire article is total crap. Men are not "shallow" and there is nothing much other than looks that a woman exclusively has to offer a hetro male that men or pets cannot offer the same.. Not that my jack russel can cook as well as the mistress, but its a close call on the "cleaning skills"..
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    Re: Men's Achilles Heel.

    Great points Percy.

    5. Recognise and acknowledge that a pretty girl is a pretty girl. Those qualities are fine as they are and can be acknowledged. But for Lord Harry's sake do not see them as any sort of Treasure to be won or stolen. They ain't yours and it is ONLY you that gives them more value than they are really worth.
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    Re: Men's Achilles Heel.

    Parsifal:
    5. Recognise and acknowledge that a pretty girl is a pretty girl. Those qualities are fine as they are and can be acknowledged. But for Lord Harry's sake do not see them as any sort of Treasure to be won or stolen. They ain't yours and it is ONLY you that gives them more value than they are really worth.

    So true.


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