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Earlier today I had an appointment at the doctor's surgery. As it transpired, the female doctor who saw me was a lovely person. However, when I walked back out into the corridor I noticed that pieces of A4 paper were conspicuously placed on several of the doors. Upon closer inspection I saw that they were notices informing patients that a chaperone is available if you request one. Okay, fair enough. What made me extremely angry is that the notices were only placed on the doors of male doctors.

Imagine if notices were placed on the doors of black doctors saying something like "A police officer is available to accompany you..."

Disgusting. BTW, what is "A4 paper"? I imagine that if any of the male doctors complained about this sexism, they would be met with responses such as, "Well, if you are not going to do anything wrong, why are you objecting to being monitored?"

This is A4 paper. I guess it's a British term.

I can't help but suspect that this is a new directive by the femi-Marxists in government, deliberately designed to demonize men.

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This is A4 paper. I guess it's a British term.

I can't help but suspect that this is a new directive by the femi-Marxists in government, deliberately designed to demonize men.

Thanks. A4 is probably similar to our 8.5" x 11" paper.

The subliminal message is that patients should not trust male doctors and should prefer female doctors. Just out of curiosity, Wizard, do you know if the female doctors in your country have trouble drumming up enough business? Could this be a ploy to scare patients away from men doctors and drive them to the women doctors?

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The subliminal message is that patients should not trust male doctors and should prefer female doctors.

Yep. That's what I thought. This is why I'm suspicious that it's part of some government directive or other.

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Just out of curiosity, Wizard, do you know if the female doctors in your country have trouble drumming up enough business? Could this be a ploy to scare patients away from men doctors and drive them to the women doctors?

I have no idea. I do, however, know that female doctors are many times more likely to permanently drop-out of their careers than male doctors. In the national health service a doctor is generally allotted to you, although you can request another one.

... Or a chaperone, for that matter.

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Earlier today I had an appointment at the doctor's surgery. As it transpired, the female doctor who saw me was a lovely person. However, when I walked back out into the corridor I noticed that pieces of A4 paper were conspicuously placed on several of the doors. Upon closer inspection I saw that they were notices informing patients that a chaperone is available if you request one. Okay, fair enough. What made me extremely angry is that the notices were only placed on the doors of male doctors.

Imagine if notices were placed on the doors of black doctors saying something like "A police officer is available to accompany you..."

You should complain to the management about the plain sexism clearly displayed by their selective notices. Such notices should be on ALL doctors' doors or none.


Blessings

Bob

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Earlier today I had an appointment at the doctor's surgery. As it transpired, the female doctor who saw me was a lovely person. However, when I walked back out into the corridor I noticed that pieces of A4 paper were conspicuously placed on several of the doors. Upon closer inspection I saw that they were notices informing patients that a chaperone is available if you request one. Okay, fair enough. What made me extremely angry is that the notices were only placed on the doors of male doctors.

Imagine if notices were placed on the doors of black doctors saying something like "A police officer is available to accompany you..."

Some male doctors automatically have chaperones when dealing with female patients, particularly when performing invasive physical exams (like pap smears or breast exams.) I imagine this is their only real form of legal protection from a lawsuit should a woman claim that she was inappropriately touched during the exam. Because it has happened where women have been mistreated during exams, and because some doctors have been falsely accused, having a chaperone means that there is a witness to events. It is a protection for the doctor as much as it is a protection for the patient. I think most doctors would like for a woman to speak up if she has fears. A doctor would like to allay those fears if possible. And if having a chaperone helps in that regard, it's beneficial to the doctor as well as to the patient.

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Some male doctors automatically have chaperones when dealing with female patients, particularly when performing invasive physical exams (like pap smears or breast exams.) I imagine this is their only real form of legal protection from a lawsuit should a woman claim that she was inappropriately touched during the exam. Because it has happened where women have been mistreated during exams, and because some doctors have been falsely accused, having a chaperone means that there is a witness to events. It is a protection for the doctor as much as it is a protection for the patient. I think most doctors would like for a woman to speak up if she has fears. A doctor would like to allay those fears if possible. And if having a chaperone helps in that regard, it's beneficial to the doctor as well as to the patient.

It's really too bad that there have been cases of sexual misconduct on the part of doctors, and tragic that there have been false allegations.

It's because of these two types of events that doctors (and patients) both now feel that they must take very real precautions against both events.

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Some male doctors automatically have chaperones when dealing with female patients, particularly when performing invasive physical exams (like pap smears or breast exams.) I imagine this is their only real form of legal protection from a lawsuit should a woman claim that she was inappropriately touched during the exam. Because it has happened where women have been mistreated during exams, and because some doctors have been falsely accused, having a chaperone means that there is a witness to events. It is a protection for the doctor as much as it is a protection for the patient. I think most doctors would like for a woman to speak up if she has fears. A doctor would like to allay those fears if possible. And if having a chaperone helps in that regard, it's beneficial to the doctor as well as to the patient.

None of that is justification for the sexist mistreatment of men doctors.

The sexist treatment of patients which you describe, disregarding the needs of men while protecting the needs of females, is a sign of their sexist bigotry, not an excuse for it.

Blessings

Bob

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None of that is justification for the sexist mistreatment of men doctors.

The sexist treatment of patients which you describe, disregarding the needs of men while protecting the needs of females, is a sign of their sexist bigotry, not an excuse for it.

Blessings

Bob

Bob,

Chaperones protect both the patient and the doctor equally.

It's a wonder it's not standard practice in every medical office.

In many offices, though, it is standard practice, and a practice that doctors themselves prefer.

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It's really too bad that there have been cases of sexual misconduct on the part of doctors, and tragic that there have been false allegations.

There has also been sexual misconduct by female doctors. The very real allegations of sexual misconduct by female doctors and nurses are routinely ignored. Everyone knows that it goes on. It is even encouraged rather than punished. Men are "evil." Women are "empowered." We've heard that one before, toots.

It's not the conduct or misconduct, its the sexist misandrist way that it's handled that makes men doctors suspect vs. female doctors not.

The anti-men prejudice also invites false allegations. Again, these are the result of the problem, not the cause.

Your feeble attempt to blame the victims of misandrist discrimination, the men doctors, by reciting old tired feminist dogma doesn't fly, toots. If you hang around here long enough you might eventually learn to think through your canned feminist recitations before putting them in print.

It's because of these two types of events that doctors (and patients) both now feel that they must take very real precautions against both events.

Sow wash! Its because of very real prejudice against men including men doctors that feminists all believe further bigotry such as these men-only notices are justified. The underlying cause has been selective persecution of men for so-called "sexual misconduct" and selective persecution for false accusations of "sexual misconduct." The selective persecution continues by putting up "men are bad" warning signs on the doors of men trying to earn a living.

Sometimes the sow wash is just plain bad, and sometimes it gets really offensive.

Blessings

Bob

(Written by a male physician, article taken from the internet):


Some may argue that the use of chaperones is an area where physician discretion is more relevant than policy. Certainly not all patients choose to have a chaperone present during intimate examinations, and it may be difficult to provide chaperones in some settings. However, in this area of quality and clinical risk guidelines rather than discretion need to dictate practice.
What considerations should direct the use of chaperones? Several studies have sought patient preferences in primary and secondary healthcare settings,3–7 although not in genitourinary medicine. The findings show remarkable consistency. Male and female patients differ markedly in their desire for a chaperone. Most women want the offer of a chaperone and feel uncomfortable asking for one if it is not offered. Most teenagers want a chaperone during intimate examinations, and a family member may be the preferred choice. Many women prefer having a third party present when the examining doctor is male, fewer if the examining doctor is female. For women a female nurse is generally the preferred choice as chaperone, would be accepted as a routine part of the clinical examination, and is generally viewed as having a positive supporting role during the examination. Men, however, particularly teenagers, find the presence of a female nurse as observer during genital examination unwelcome. Interestingly, a substantial proportion of patients in primary care didn’t mind if a chaperone was present or not,7 although this finding may reflect an older patient sample and familiar doctors.
These findings suggest some strong imperatives. Every woman having a genital or rectal examination should be offered a chaperone. Failure to offer one deprives patients of support they may want, and non-availability is an unacceptable excuse. It is unacceptable for a teenage woman to be alone with an unfamiliar male physician for genital examination. Moreover, it shouldn’t be assumed that a female nurse will be an acceptable chaperone for a man.
Genital examination is one area of medical practice where the sex of the patient and sex of the doctor have a significant influence on patient preferences. Clear differences exist in the preferences of male and female patients, and these can and should be accommodated. In genitourinary medicine it is difficult to argue against a female nurse routinely being present during the examination of women to support the patient and provide assistance to the examining doctor, regardless of the sex of the doctor. Assistance is rarely required in examination of male patients, who generally do not express a need for the support of a chaperone and are likely to feel embarrassed if one is present. Teenagers, however, are probably more apprehensive about genital examination than older patients. They are a major patient group in genitourinary medicine clinics, and their concerns need to be handled sensitively.
What other factors bear on chaperone use? Doctors have been accused of unprofessional conduct and sexual assault after unchaperoned examinations. Eight per cent of the women sampled by Webb and Opdahl reported experiences where doctors had conducted a gynaecological examination in a “less than professional manner.”4 Unprofessional behaviour involved overexposure of the woman’s body; inappropriate comments, gestures, or facial expressions; and being examined in an unusual position. Eight per cent of the lead physicians in genitourinary medicine clinics surveyed by Torrance et al were aware of allegations of unprofessional behaviour in their departments in the preceding five years.2 For medicolegal protection therefore a third party should always be present during genital examination. It is, however, difficult not to proceed with a clinically indicated examination if the patient declines a chaperone, providing the physician feels comfortable in this situation. It would be prudent to document the patient’s decision for an unchaperoned examination. It should also be recognised that in a few consultations—for example, the assessment of sexual dysfunction—the introduction of a third party for the examination might negatively affect the doctor-patient relationship.
Variations and inconsistencies in doctors’ attitudes and practice in the use of chaperones have again been demonstrated. Examinations need to be conducted in an atmosphere characterised by sensitivity to patients’ feelings, care, support, and respect for privacy, dignity, and patient choice. Such qualities are not discretionary. Most female patients in genitourinary medicine expect, welcome, and receive support from the presence of a female nurse. Policy should acknowledge this as best practice. Whether chaperoning should be more frequent during male genital examination is less clear and needs further study. Action is needed where practice is suboptimal and clear policies need to be formulated. Patient preference, the need for assistance, and medicolegal considerations would seem to be the major determining factors.

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Bob,

Chaperones protect both the patient and the doctor equally.

No, toots, in the above example it was only for the men doctors. Once again a feminist version of "equally" means "women rule."

It's a wonder it's not standard practice in every medical office.

Yes, that's the point. In the above example it was ONLY for the MEN doctors. The men all had signs on their doors suggesting that men are bad.


Blessings

Bob

The problem I see with this is, the use of, desire for, or need of chaperones for male patients warrants further study. Women should not be the only ones offered a chaperone, men should be offered one as well, and chaperones for men should be men, as men prefer not to have female chaperones. (Causes embarrassment, and thus is not effective support.)

The article states that men's desire for chaperones is unclear and needs further study.

I am wondering, how prevalent is the desire for male patients to have male chaperones?

Is there a need here that is not being addressed?

If you (meaning men here) needed an invasive physical exam, would you prefer to have a chaperone present? And if so, would you prefer to have a male or a female chaperone?

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In genitourinary medicine it is difficult to argue against a female nurse routinely being present during the examination of women to support the patient and provide assistance to the examining doctor, regardless of the sex of the doctor. Assistance is rarely required in examination of male patients, who generally do not express a need for the support of a chaperone and are likely to feel embarrassed if one is present.

Your cited article presupposes that the chaperon will be a female nurse even though the author acknowledges that male patients are more likely to be more embarrassed by a female nurse being present. The medical establishment makes no provision for men nurses with female doctors when men are the patients. Its completely sexist in favor of females.

Once again the medical business assumes that the patients are all female and makes NO accommodation for the needs, emotions, or feelings of men.

This whole topic describes blatant and rampant misandrist sexism from top to bottom of the whole medical industrial complex.

More of your Internet articles, Tera, only serve to display your feminist position.

Blessings

Bob