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    Gender Neutral Words (Double Standard)

    In the United Kingdom it's not allowed to say Chairman anymore because it's supposedly sexist , so that's now called Chair.

    By the same token, it ought to be "unauthorized" to call a trash collector, trashman (though most of them are men), since that job can and should also be done by women.

    I think gender neutral words are alright, though people should be FREE to say what they want, instead of a big government forcing people to talk a certain way (PC = Political Censorship).

    What bugs me is the double standard that I still read Motherboard for the computer hardware that has no gender. This should thus be Mainboard.

    And also "sistersite" or sister city, sister company. Those all should not have a gender either so it's in line with gender neutral words.

    So how come Chairman and such are not allowed, but sister company is alright? It's a blatant double standard.
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    Re: Gender Neutral Words (Double Standard)

    Yeah Tyrael,
    I remember back when I was a paid FireMAN, in 1993, we all had to have our name tags (these things cost $30 each when they were originally made, we had one for our dress uniform and one for our un-dress uniform (under the turn-out gear), changed from Fireman or Senior-Fireman, to Fire-fighter or Senior Fire-fighter.

    Our skills did not change because of this, the only thing that stood out to us front-line staff, was that we were being pawns in a feminist world.
    We even had a ceremony in the bar upstairs at the end of Red Watch on a Friday night.

    The words of the ceremony went like thiswith an old open hose nozzle)
    "You are hereby enlisted as one of the female-sympathisers, wear your badge with such disstain, as they hath not any idea as to what they have done, well they do but do not care"

    "To enter this realm, you must speak, the words un-spoken until now, that being, thine ranks of Fire-fighter and thy Senior Fire-fighter and with these words, we must all drink to the death of standards within our clan, so my common bretheren, hoist your glass, as it is this that we drink, in the hope that this is the last of this bollocks"

    Senior Fireman Bob Mortimer did a very good job of the proceedings that night, lots of laughs ensued.
    He read the piece out in the vein of Michael Palin in the movie "Monty Python and the Holy Grail, as the Altar Boy giving the sermon before the Holy Hand-Grenade was launched.

    To this day, I will always address a FF or SFF (regardless of gender) as Fireman or Senior Fireman XXXXXXX, I have yet to meet a female staff member who is annoyed with this, most have said to me that, that is part and parcel of being part of a disciplined team.

    The word Fireman is easier to say when you are under pressure at an incident and also when sending radio messages on the fire-ground.
    But I suppose you'll never see a feminist there, unless she is crying "Can some man help me??!!"

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    I am amazed the feminits have not insisted on fireperson

    I take it that in extreme dangerous fires the no-handle sit down to piss firepersons are right to the fore risking their lives or do they hang back a little still

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    Re: Gender Neutral Words (Double Standard)

    Language is probably the place where the feminists fight for supremacy is even more obvious, especially in German.

    In German words have a genus which some stupid people mistake for sex. So the word teacher ("Lehrer") for example has a male ending (but could mean both a female and a male teacher). So feminist fight for a solution to include the female ending as well so the political correct way to write teacher is "Lehrer / Lehrerin" or "LehrerIn" using the so called "Binnen-I". Of course the German word for perpetrator has a male genus as well and guess what apparently there is no reason to change that. And you thought your feminists were crazy.
    The men's and fathers' movement needs to make sure it never sees females as the enemy,
    but only misandry--whether from females or from males.
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    Re: Gender Neutral Words (Double Standard)

    The word "gender" itself is also a politically correct invention.

    In saner times only words had gender, people (and animals) had sex.
    Whatever I say, write, think, do or even imagine.... some woman somewhere made me do it.
    It's her responsibility and not mine.

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    Re: Gender Neutral Words (Double Standard)

    We will NEVER hear a newscaster say or have a reporter write "...And the killer remains at larger. There is no description of him or her yet, but he or she is assumed to be armed and dangerous. Anyone with information on him or her should contact...
    A man who doesn’t want to take care of his kid is called a deadbeat dad; a woman who doesn’t want to take care of her kid is called pro-choice.

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    Re: Gender Neutral Words (Double Standard)

    And ever notice how grand ships (i.e. the Titanic) and cars are often referred to as 'her' or 'she'; NEVER 'him' or 'he'. And this could be seen to equate grandeur with femininity. But us MRAs aren't really pedantic enough to make an issue of something so trivial; well, until the feminists start making an issue of something as trivial as the term 'Fireman', however.
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    Re: Gender Neutral Words (Double Standard)

    So fight back.

    Do not conform.

    Use all the old terms. Laugh at the new ones and the people using them. Ridicule them.

    Oh, and refer to feminism as the Princess of Lies. The devil is female.
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    Re: Gender Neutral Words (Double Standard)

    Quote Quote from Feckless View Post
    Language is probably the place where the feminists fight for supremacy is even more obvious, especially in German.

    In German words have a genus which some stupid people mistake for sex. So the word teacher ("Lehrer") for example has a male ending (but could mean both a female and a male teacher). So feminist fight for a solution to include the female ending as well so the political correct way to write teacher is "Lehrer / Lehrerin" or "LehrerIn" using the so called "Binnen-I". Of course the German word for perpetrator has a male genus as well and guess what apparently there is no reason to change that. And you thought your feminists were crazy.

    Amazing... I am glad you posted, Feck. I know it would be slightly off-topic, but could you post or send me a message explaining the "Binnin-I", a concept I have never seen in my German studies?
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    Re: Gender Neutral Words (Double Standard)

    Quote Quote from dyslexic_banana View Post
    And ever notice how grand ships (i.e. the Titanic) and cars are often referred to as 'her' or 'she'; NEVER 'him' or 'he'. And this could be seen to equate grandeur with femininity. But us MRAs aren't really pedantic enough to make an issue of something so trivial; well, until the feminists start making an issue of something as trivial as the term 'Fireman', however.
    Storms used to be only named after women, I believe. Now, they are named after men too. We can't allow women to be singled out in naming violent weather. That would be bigoted!
    A man who doesn’t want to take care of his kid is called a deadbeat dad; a woman who doesn’t want to take care of her kid is called pro-choice.

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    Re: Gender Neutral Words (Double Standard)

    If you control how people talk you control how people think. Thus it follows that every movement bent on control starts with controlling how people talk.
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    Re: Gender Neutral Words (Double Standard)

    New-speak eh?
    The men's and fathers' movement needs to make sure it never sees females as the enemy,
    but only misandry--whether from females or from males.
    If not, we'll become like the bigoted feminists that this movement was formed to oppose.
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    Quote Quote from dyslexic_banana View Post
    And ever notice how grand ships (i.e. the Titanic) and cars are often referred to as 'her' or 'she'; NEVER 'him' or 'he'. And this could be seen to equate grandeur with femininity. But us MRAs aren't really pedantic enough to make an issue of something so trivial; well, until the feminists start making an issue of something as trivial as the term 'Fireman', however.
    Exactly, most MRAs aren't going to be too finicky about the smaller details until feminists start insisting on doing so.

    With that in mind, I do take offense at the phrases 'mother earth' and 'mother nature.' For me it lends credence to the idea of the female divine, reinforces female chauvinism, and a basis upon which feminists build this whole faux notion of goddesses.
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    Re: Gender Neutral Words (Double Standard)

    Here we still have sex, not gender. Ships are she or her because ship is feminine. For example, in my language, planes are masculine. lol

    Anyway, here we have four words for each form - masculine singular, masculine plural, feminine singular, feminine plural. It's articulated differently for each form.

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    Re: Gender Neutral Words (Double Standard)

    Quote Quote from AKUUS View Post
    Storms used to be only named after women, I believe. Now, they are named after men too. We can't allow women to be singled out in naming violent weather. That would be bigoted!

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