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    There is no 'Spain' or 'European Union' prefix so I put United Kingdom.

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    Feminism going too far in Spain, "men's lib" claims


    Aug 31, 2010, 3:06 GMT

    By Sinikka Tarvainen, dpa =


    Madrid (dpa) - Women's rights need to be defended, most Spaniards agree - but do men need their own liberation movement as well?


    Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero's progressive women's rights policies have sparked a debate on whether his campaign for the equality of the sexes has gone too far.


    Spain's gender legislation 'discriminates against men,' who are not protected adequately from female violence against them, men's rights activist Domingo Gonzalez Alonso claims.


    Men also have few rights in situations of separation or divorce, the spokesman for the Ambos association defending divorced men told the German Press Agency dpa in a telephone interview.


    The government rejects such arguments and accuses the critics of downplaying centuries of male oppression against women.


    Zapatero, a self-confessed feminist, took a strong stance in favour of gender equality by appointing Spain's first half-female cabinet after his election victory in 2004.


    After winning a second term in 2008, Zapatero created Spain's first Equality Ministry.


    Legislation adopted in 2004 turned Spain into one of the most progressive European countries regarding women's rights, the government says.


    The law defines gender violence exclusively as male violence against women. Violence exercised by women against men comes under ordinary criminal law.


    Men should be penalized more severely than women for similar acts of domestic violence, the Constitutional Court confirmed in a recent ruling.


    More than 100 special courts - as well as special police teams - handle cases of men threatening, coercing or physically attacking their current or former wives, live-in partners or girlfriends.


    Around 45 women have been killed in cases of gender violence in Spain so far this year. Despite Spain being known for its macho culture, the figure is not particularly high in European terms. About 40 per cent of the victims were not Spanish, but immigrant women.


    The law on gender violence obliges the media to inform the public about cases of women being killed by their husbands or partners.


    'Meanwhile, 18 men, 25 children and 16 grandparents have been killed this year in situations of domestic violence, but the media take hardly any interest in them,' Gonzalez complains.


    He quotes the case of a young man who says his live-in girlfriend pushed him down the stairs in the southern city of Huelva.


    'He broke his collarbone, but she called the police and accused him of violence. He was arrested and ordered to keep away from her. She can continue living in the house, which belongs to him, until the court case is resolved. That could take about a year.'


    Some Spanish judges and authors have also accused women of falsely charging men with gender violence.


    However, there is little evidence of that happening on a wide scale, and the debate now focuses on fathers' rights after divorce or separation.


    The mother traditionally gets custody of the children in more than 90 per cent of the cases. That entitles her to continuing to live in the family home and to getting alimony from her former husband.


    'Many men have been left homeless, because their wives found someone younger or just could no longer stand the sight of them,' Gonzalez says.


    So far, only one of Spain's 17 semi-autonomous regions - the northern Aragon - has adopted legislation aimed at generalizing shared custody of children. Judges there can oblige mothers to share custody with fathers in the absence of adverse factors such as violence.


    Advocates of shared custody say it allows fathers to be more present in their children's lives, and also favours women in that it allows them to work more outside the home.


    The government has rejected making shared custody the national norm. Irresponsible fathers could claim custody of their children only for economic reasons, government gender violence delegate Miguel Lorente Acosta pointed out.


    Critics of the government's equality policies failed to realize that gender violence was not just a question of some men losing their tempers, Lorente Acosta told the daily El Pais.


    It was a 'problem of patriarchy, of a cultural and social model based on unequality,' he stressed.

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    Let's hope this gets some necessary attention. Feminism claims to be about equality for both genders. We see them frequently complaining about inequalities in 3rd world countries which are detrimental to women... so why aren't they complaining about this too? Ahhh, I'm sure we can take an educated guess on why.
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    This has been going on for some time now in Spain. I remember the articles about the town where a night is devoted solely women and any man found on the streets will be fined. That is a monstrous abuse of state power and a clear violation of natural/civil rights.

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    Doesn't surprise me at all. Spain, like much of the western world, has become tangled with feminism for too long. It is getting to the point where a man can't even do anything without being demonized or accused of assault.

    The more the world realizes whats happening, the more feminism will start to lose it's ground.

    Hopefully this news will get out and people will start waking up more.

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    That's terrible how men are being oppressed! Those men must stay single and away from women to protect themselves till feminism loses it's ground.
    Men will not be truly free until they become sexually and reproductively independent of women. Technology, such as virtual reality and robots/sexbots/robogirls will free men and end feminism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by savethemales View Post
    That's terrible how men are being oppressed! Those men must stay single and away from women to protect themselves till feminism loses it's ground.
    Feminism is being run by the Bilderberg. As long as they are putting money into it and getting results from it, they will continue to push it. Feminism is just a guise.

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    Personaly I would love to nuke every damn femanazi and their Big Pimp Daddy goverment puppet master off the face of the earth but sad I can not, I'm sure there are many here, in the MRM and around the world that feel the same way which is a very bad sign because it means that more thefemanazis and their goverment pimps opress men and boy the meaner the men and boys are going to become untill something gives there there will be millions if not billions of pissed off men and boys take to the streets and demaning the blood of there opressers which will mean that the femanazis and their goverment pimps will have to use deadly force in order just to survive the onslught which in turn will make those pissed off men and boys retalate with even greater force untill all the femanazi nations are burnt to the ground in all out civil war.
    When the femanazis tell me it's their way or the highway I tell them to fuck off and die, because at lest the highway leads to new and intresting places, their ways is a dead end.

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    im mad but not utterly shocked. Remember when they said women could divorce if men didnt do their share of the housework? this is just the next step up.
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    she threw him off the stairs? ok thats sick, she accused him of violence? thats doubly sick
    she wont get penalized and he will get demonized while hes in an hospital bed? that has no name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kargan3033 View Post
    Personaly I would love to nuke every damn femanazi and their Big Pimp Daddy goverment puppet master off the face of the earth but sad I can not, I'm sure there are many here, in the MRM and around the world that feel the same way which is a very bad sign because it means that more thefemanazis and their goverment pimps opress men and boy the meaner the men and boys are going to become untill something gives there there will be millions if not billions of pissed off men and boys take to the streets and demaning the blood of there opressers which will mean that the femanazis and their goverment pimps will have to use deadly force in order just to survive the onslught which in turn will make those pissed off men and boys retalate with even greater force untill all the femanazi nations are burnt to the ground in all out civil war.
    This is why we need to get the antifeminist men and women to rise up. We are going to have to pull up our sleeves and get down to business. Freedom isn't free or easy but it is well worth it.

    If we can get rid of the puppet master, feminism will be easier to take down.

    Quote Originally Posted by sjaime View Post
    she threw him off the stairs? ok thats sick, she accused him of violence? thats doubly sick
    she wont get penalized and he will get demonized while hes in an hospital bed? that has no name.
    The Lord will take care of her in due time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zetamale View Post
    im mad but not utterly shocked. Remember when they said women could divorce if men didnt do their share of the housework? this is just the next step up.
    Don't you mean " All " of the house work while they sit on their fat asses and stuff their piggish faces with garbage while watching femanazi garbage on tv like that missrable cunt oprah and the rest of the vermin of the world
    When the femanazis tell me it's their way or the highway I tell them to fuck off and die, because at lest the highway leads to new and intresting places, their ways is a dead end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haute macabre View Post
    Feminism is being run by the Bilderberg. As long as they are putting money into it and getting results from it, they will continue to push it. Feminism is just a guise.
    Is the Bilderberg a bunch of men or women? How is the Bilderberg getting more money out than what they put in it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kargan3033 View Post
    Don't you mean " All " of the house work while they sit on their fat asses and stuff their piggish faces with garbage while watching femanazi garbage on tv like that missrable cunt oprah and the rest of the vermin of the world
    That's why I see virtual reality girls of 2020 being a huge thing. Those feminists will have to live alone and do all her housework herself! How's that for empowerment?
    Men will not be truly free until they become sexually and reproductively independent of women. Technology, such as virtual reality and robots/sexbots/robogirls will free men and end feminism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjaime View Post
    she threw him off the stairs? ok thats sick, she accused him of violence? thats doubly sick
    she wont get penalized and he will get demonized while hes in an hospital bed? that has no name.
    My friend used to date a crazy one. One day he could see the way the argument was going and thought it would be best to just leave. As he was leaving she snatched his keys and threw them into the lawn. When he yelled wanting to know why she did that she pushed him and he fell down the front steps, shattering his ankle. She rushed down all apologetic and saying she didn't mean to hurt him and when he managed to get himself up he told her he was leaving. She responded by punching him in the face. Did he call the cops when he left to report her violence? No. His dad is a cop so he knew full wll how the system works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omegaflux View Post
    My friend used to date a crazy one. One day he could see the way the argument was going and thought it would be best to just leave. As he was leaving she snatched his keys and threw them into the lawn. When he yelled wanting to know why she did that she pushed him and he fell down the front steps, shattering his ankle. She rushed down all apologetic and saying she didn't mean to hurt him and when he managed to get himself up he told her he was leaving. She responded by punching him in the face. Did he call the cops when he left to report her violence? No. His dad is a cop so he knew full wll how the system works.
    That's fucked up, which is why the whole rotten system MUST die or otherwise it will litterly be " Open Season " on men and boys.
    When the femanazis tell me it's their way or the highway I tell them to fuck off and die, because at lest the highway leads to new and intresting places, their ways is a dead end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by savethemales View Post
    Is the Bilderberg a bunch of men or women? How is the Bilderberg getting more money out than what they put in it?

    That's why I see virtual reality girls of 2020 being a huge thing. Those feminists will have to live alone and do all her housework herself! How's that for empowerment?
    The Bilderberg is is an annual invitation-only conference of around 130 guests, most of whom are people of influence in the fields of politics, banking, business, the military and media. Each conference is closed to the public and picked in a secluded area. How they get money is through these people and organizations.

    I still don't think virtual reality girls will be big. Humans want to be with a real person. Men and women fighting against feminism don't want to replace humans at all. They just want to be rid of feminism. Maybe a choice for a few people that are antisocial or asexual but I don't see it as a big trend for people.


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