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    The Days when Nude Swimming was Required (for boys)

    The Days when Nude Swimming was Required - rec.nude | Google Groups Below is the url to a discussion regarding the requirement that most YMCAs and even many High Schools use to have that men had to be naked in order to swim in their pools. This occurred even up into the 1970s when it finally died out do to the fact that women had started to be allowed into these pools. You know I find it interesting that the Young Men's Christian Association (YMCA) allows women now but the Young Women's Christian Association (YWCA) still doesn't let men use their facilities. Not that any man would want to (well I guess I shouldn't say that because there are weirdos out there) but still it seems hypocritical that women can now join a club that was traditionally for men but men can't use the female counterpart. Anna

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    This was before my time, which I am grateful for! Evidently, in the 50's, 60's, and 70's, boys in America were forced to swim nude in swim class, on swim teams, and at the YMCA. This was to "prevent bathing suits from clogging the drain", though girls got to wear bathing suits. Also, it prevented boys from having to be responsible for soggy suits, though girls were readily entrusted with such a arduous task.

    The male instructors were usually nude, though female subsitutes were not. Girls often showed up "early" for class to check out their nude male classmates. At swim meets, spectators of mixed genders came to watch the show. Girls peeked at the boys, female teachers felt free to walk in on swim classes and even into boys locker rooms, and there were female life guards at YMCA's where males swam nude. Most of the men reporting experiencing this as boys claim it was no big deal. Maybe they were told "real men" considered it to be "no big deal."

    I am not anti-nude. I would have not problem being nude in front of other nude people, but not clothed people. From the comments that are made, this nude male/clothed female environment appears to have been an opportunity for females to shame men with derisive looks and comments.


    Here's a great response to a woman named Tami. She used to peek at the nude boys swimming in high school and claims that the environment was to blame, not her (typical feminist). She also, if you bother to read her misandristic comments, maintains that it is harmless when girls peek at naked boys. Nice double standard!


    Apr 27, 2008

    Speaking of wrong assumptions, Tami, let me point out one of yours.
    tami wrote:
    Now the boys in school were in an environment where all boys were expected to swim nude. I'm not sure about the reason, but both the boys and the girls assumed that there was one, good or bad.
    Tami you were soooo wrong. One thing that has been established by this thread is that ther was never a reason.

    Unless...

    You are the only person, so far, who has posted here and benefitted from boys being forbidden to wear swimsuits. You were amused by the free show.

    Since this is, so far, the only benefit yet identified to forcing boys who didn't want to swim nude to strip naked for swimmming class, we can't dismiss the notion that this was the whole reason for it all along.

    Perhaps there were women on the school boards, or dominating their husbands on the school boards, who, like you, thought it would be funny to make the boys strip naked for swim class.

    It makes more sense than the pool filters business.
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    Re: The Days when Nude Swimming was Required (for boys)

    Quote Quote from AKUUS View Post
    You know I find it interesting that the Young Men's Christian Association (YMCA) allows women now but the Young Women's Christian Association (YWCA) still doesn't let men use their facilities. Not that any man would want to (well I guess I shouldn't say that because there are weirdos out there) but still it seems hypocritical that women can now join a club that was traditionally for men but men can't use the female counterpart. Anna

    Yep yep, this is typical - nothing unusual at all. Look at the PGA vs LPGA. Feminists went crazy about the PGA, yet - typically - 'forgot' to mention they had a LPGA which prohibited men from joining...
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    Re: The Days when Nude Swimming was Required (for boys)

    I see nothing wrong with those days, as long as they kept the genders devided. Also, if theboys were aloud to swim in the nude, why not the girls. as long as the gym teacher was female, I see nothing wrong with the girls aloud to swim naked. Today, many men (not all men) would love to have the good-ol-days back. Here is a website for Straight Christian Men who enjoy skinny-dipping with their male friends.

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    Re: The Days when Nude Swimming was Required (for boys)

    This actually happened in schools and the YMCA where boys and girls were kept separate. But, there were a very few schools that had mixed swimming teams where the girls wore suits and the boys did not. I have some photos of such from the late 30's, early 40's, and even 50's that show it. They are not erotic or porno or anything like that, but they are revealing.

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    Re: The Days when Nude Swimming was Required (for boys)

    It's to bad that the Y.M.C.A. doesn't just allow men anymore. It's becoming harder and harder to find places just for men, unless it's owned by homosexuals. There was a time in ancient Rome when bath houses (which were a lot like the old Y.M.C.A.s) would devide the time of opening for the men and women. Maybe the Y.M.C.A. would do that. In this way, nudity can come back in our pools and still have modesty between the opposite genders. How-ever, it appears that future generations won't care about mix nudity in public pools, but if the Y.M.C.A. keeps it Christian morality, that won't happen in their gyms. (in my opinion, Thank Goodness)

    Here is a video that confirms you view of the old Y.M.C.A.

    YouTube - Naked Swimming In School Pt. 1

    Here is a website just for Christian Men who enjoy skinny-dipping with their male buds.
    As for the woman who are answering this site negatively , (It's a male thing).

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    Re: The Days when Nude Swimming was Required (for boys)

    You know what's funny, I did a google search and discovered that this is actually a sexual fetish. It fell under the category of cfnm, clothed female naked male. I find it funny to think how women complain about how they are exploited in porn, but apparently so are men, and this is a prime example of the double standard. This fetish is gaining prominence and becoming more and more popular where womyn basically exploit men for their sexual gratification. Another sign of the times, and a great counter point for all those feminists who claim that porn is a way for men to exploit womyn.

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    You know what's funny, I did a google search and discovered that this is actually a sexual fetish. It fell under the category of cfnm, clothed female naked male. I find it funny to think how women complain about how they are exploited in porn, but apparently so are men, and this is a prime example of the double standard. This fetish is gaining prominence and becoming more and more popular where womyn basically exploit men for their sexual gratification. Another sign of the times, and a great counter point for all those feminists who claim that porn is a way for men to exploit womyn.
    Ah, but don't you see that if the men didn't take off their clothes around women, those women wouldn't be subject to the inherent masculine sexual domination that means that all heterosexual interaction is oppression by males of females. ... Or some such feminist twaddle to 'prove' how even cfnm is actually women being exploited.


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    Re: The Days when Nude Swimming was Required (for boys)

    Swimming naked?

    Not in the UK or Australia.

    Ponds, rivers and waterholes, maybe. Informal. But not in schools or YMCAs.

    Nor NZ.

    Canada I am not sure of.

    Europe, no, too.

    It may just be a peculiar American thing.

    Funny lot, Americans.

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    Re: The Days when Nude Swimming was Required (for boys)

    I called my Dad about this, he swam at the YMCA in the 1960's, everyone was wearing swim suits - he just laughed: he did tell me though about a swim suit thing. My Dad earned his Water Safety Instructor Certification, as he entered college he could teach swimming as well as life gaurd: which according to Dad he did as a way to earn money for school. Apparently, all of the Life Guards and Instructors wore Red Speedo Swim Suits with a white stripe with their WSI Badge sewn on to it ( their competitive swim teams had similar swim suits but different colors). Dad says it probably started in San Francisco, but gay guys started wearing the same swim suits (they were not WSI or swimming competitors), so the competitive Speedo Swim suit began signifying homos: Life Guards and Instructors got new suits.

    YMCA is now co-ed, boys and men can have nothing unless women get it too.

    YWCA, get a life they are nothing but Shelters for women.

    I voluntgeer my time with youth when I can, I think I will never forget, sitting on a bus, next to a ministers wife. The Minister and his wife have a family inculding sons: the Minister's wife and other moms were talking about their son's tight "buns", they had their heads all together in their discussion. All of a sudden the Minister's Wife's head jerked and she looked at me "'oh sorry, it's a mom thing, we didn't mean to offend you, these young guys DO have tight "buns" you know I am just saying".
    We got to our destination, the kids got into the pool, I had my job to do, as I continually scanned the pool, I could not help thinking "what are those moms thinking now?" What am I going to do if they act inappropriately?
    I guess these women are generally attractive but I think they are probably about forty years old, I guess they are all married, every so often I remember that situation: it was ridiculous weird.

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    All of a sudden the Minister's Wife's head jerked and she looked at me "'oh sorry, it's a mom thing, we didn't mean to offend you, these young guys DO have tight "buns" you know I am just saying".
    And she was no doubt oblivious of the sexism. How would she have reacted if the dads had been discussing girls of the same age and said that about their breasts?

    ""'oh sorry, it's a dad thing, we didn't mean to offend you, these young girls DO have firm 'Tits', you know, I am just saying".
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    Re: The Days when Nude Swimming was Required (for boys)

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    ...I voluntgeer my time with youth when I can, I think I will never forget, sitting on a bus, next to a ministers wife. The Minister and his wife have a family inculding sons: the Minister's wife and other moms were talking about their son's tight "buns", they had their heads all together in their discussion. All of a sudden the Minister's Wife's head jerked and she looked at me "'oh sorry, it's a mom thing, we didn't mean to offend you, these young guys DO have tight "buns" you know I am just saying".
    We got to our destination, the kids got into the pool, I had my job to do, as I continually scanned the pool, I could not help thinking "what are those moms thinking now?" What am I going to do if they act inappropriately?
    I guess these women are generally attractive but I think they are probably about forty years old, I guess they are all married, every so often I remember that situation: it was ridiculous weird.
    I'm sure this sort of thing is much more common than we think. Why else would there be so many cases of female teachers molesting and raping male students?

    I can't believe this post has over 51,000 views? How did that happen? I had no idea that this topic would be so popular.
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    Why else would there be so many cases of female teachers molesting and raping male students?
    That's easy. It's because female teachers are more prone to abusing their authority and using it to get what they want. Even if it's sex with underage boys. They don't catch hell for any of it because of the usual reasons.
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    Golly, I simply reverse the sexes in the comment and the 'views' shoot up from 30 odd to 51 friggin' thousand !!!!

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    Ah, but don't you see that if the men didn't take off their clothes around women, those women wouldn't be subject to the inherent masculine sexual domination that means that all heterosexual interaction is oppression by males of females. ... Or some such feminist twaddle to 'prove' how even cfnm is actually women being exploited.
    I'm pretty sure they would contend to the fact that we desire the exploitation too, just like women who do porn, oh wait female pornstars are traumatized into doing what they do by the patriarchy. My goodness, is there anything they can't turn around and blame on us?


 

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