How can killing a baby be a defense to murder? If you kill two different babies in to separate incidents? Ridiculous.

Well, I have something to ask my Criminal Law Prof about. Thank you Zuberi.

That's unbelievable.....sometimes lawmakers make you want to go and riot.

@eidolon, I have specifically posted some stuff here since you got here. I read you were educating yourself to become a lawyer. These rulings you read about, in my country or others, are but a cog in the wheel. It's all part of social engineering, social enslavement, consumer monetary mechanics. These rulings are set forth by corrupt institutions to keep the main stream money coming into their pockets. It would not do to imprison women, they posses a biological master chess piece, the womb. A man in jail, can and will, upon release, copulate, bring forth a new life with a woman, and be imprisoned again with no disruption to the economy except a small fee to house them all in small dark corners. A woman in prison, cannot set forth a child and remain in jail without putting a huge burden on the state who now has to feed and clothe this future consumer. We need the debt this future child will create, if not, without this debt, there will be a decrease in interest, and only in interest exists any real form of equity (so to speak). Money does not really exist, just a the debt a human being owes is considered of value. The more children put into the world, the more debt will be created.
This is why poverty, women's issues, malady in third world countries are not pursued, rulings such as this one which makes you want to question your professor, are not regarded as important because the child set forth in these countries has no value, present or future, they have no land or industry to work in or on, hence they cannot generate debt and interest. They are a burden which take resources away from this dynamic. I heard a good analogy about debt and interest once, debt is the gun, interest is the bullet. Without debt, there would be no need for banks, no need for globalization, no need for currency on such a large scale.
Decisions like the one Zuberie posted and others here, are but a small, intricate part in the grand scheme of things to which we are headed, which is a new world order, and feminism, in essence was created and tolerated by the elitist, to advance this agenda, upon which we stand, nearer than we think. You WILL SEE this in your life time.
You are already seeing this with the EU, NAFTA (the future NAU). It is not beneficial to the banks to have so many different tenders. Hence the euro. A small test that has so far been very lucrative and has slowly brought Europe to its knees in all it's values and morals. Only your debt is important, only your capacity to work is important to repay that debt with interest. Woman are of utmost importance to this plan. The state cannot accept monetary responsibility for the children. It would mean bankruptcy. That is why, slowly politicians and law makers are slowly being replaced by puppets who serve only the dollar/euro, to make sure this bankruptcy of orphaned state subsidized children stay with their mothers, while the physically fit can earn salaries to buy debt owned housing and cars and be taxed on the air we breathe.
Men make more money because we generate more debt, our muscles and ingenious brains have brought along great inventions and industry and with it, enormous reserves of cash flow, while the female assures the continuance of this flow for generations to come. All that is needed is a system which can harness all this power without chaos. NWO!!! I could go on, but some may think I am silly and paranoid. I find that I am lucky enough to see it, to have understood what others have tries to show many. keep your money close, generate your own revenues, do not set forth more than one child in your life, and stay away from woman at all costs if they present any form of narcissism and vanity. They are a money pit the system loves to have around, they are the life jacket of the banks and big corporations such as the GAP and others who enslave cheap labor in third world countries for their vanity needs. What a great wheel it is. Time to get off it!! Only in the modern world can a company such as WALMART be bigger than Saudi Arabia!!! What do both have in common, consumers on a grand scale!!!!

Quote from nickb275

keep your money close, generate your own revenues, do not set forth more than one child in your life, and stay away from woman at all costs if they present any form of narcissism and vanity.

I've made the choice at age 15 to remain celibate and give those parasites nothing. No children, no money, nothing!
They deserve nothing!

@nickb275-- Most of your points seem entirely too plausible. And that is the scary part. Governments want to work out a system where men don't cause revolutions. Keep them busy, keep them in the army, keep them in prison (US has the highest prisoner population per capita in the world) and keep them destabilized. What better way than to destroy healthy family bonds which leads to more criminal behavior; then keep criminalizing even more behaviors (but letting women off the hook because of "post partum" or "PMDD"; splitting man from his wealth and offspring through broken family court system, and just ignoring the indigent, beleaguered veterans who fought to keep the whole mess going? Lets add removing a system of subsidized birth control during a time when employment and poverty are rampant and see how many more single-teenage-mother-prison-dad-paying-child-support children we can add to the mix!

@Zuberi-- You are starting to sound like a militant feminist in reverse. (We don't need men! Grr! Snarl! Bastards!)

@Zuberi-- You are starting to sound like a militant feminist in reverse. (We don't need men! Grr! Snarl! Bastards

Celibacy is a reasonable proposal for a man if he has the drive or self-discipline. You avoid a vipers nest of problems. False DV charges, false rape charges, asset division, mooching, gold-diggers, etc. I've been celibate myself now for several years and it's quite enriching. I spend almost every dollar I generate on myself, and I re-channel my formerly sexual energy into artistic pursuits. It allows me to work less and have far more fun, my life is much more relaxed. Simply opting out of the whole 'run in circles for female approval,' game is in itself a vast load off, and anyway the difference between separatism or isolationism and the attitude of feminists is large. Men like Zuberi and I don't try to control women to the point of incarceration, pirate their assets for men, minimize their legitimate grievances and issues, criminalize their sexuality, force them out of public discourse/dialogues, align education and academia against them, strip them of constitutionally guaranteed rights, etc.

I'm not impressed by the comparison.

Besides which women (as a whole) do need men. Society is dependant on men earning more than they need for themselves to operate. The reverse is simply not a reality; you can counter that women are required for children (which they can only create by co-operating with men anyway) but propogation is a genetic goal, not a human goal, I am not my genes and I owe posterity nothing - I've said this before but the reverse is magical thinking. Whether the human race still exists in five or fifty thousand years will not effect my life right now one jot, so why should I care about a contribution to posterity which is entirely hypothetical, or act as if it is comparable to a present contribution on which the entire system is dependant? Riddle me that.

Society is dependant on men for various forms of hard labor, national defense, and generating an excess that can be taxed to fund public works, social programs and so on. Women are not incapable of making an equal contribution but the simple reality is they do not. Women are a net loss as a demographic - that's a mathematical fact.

Granted, you're probably not a net loss as an individual, and I'm not going to condemn you because some women are dragging down the whole group, but when the group itself is being discussed I'm going to be honest and factual.

[QUOTE=dad_savage;250345]QUOTE]

""Celibacy is a reasonable proposal for a man if he has the drive or self-discipline. You avoid a vipers nest of problems. False DV charges, false rape charges, asset division, mooching, gold-diggers, etc. I've been celibate myself now for several years and it's quite enriching. I spend almost every dollar I generate on myself,""

I endorse this philosophy nowadays wholeheartedly however one need not own a dairy to drink a glass of milk; ie that wimyn rent it by the minutes the hour and day