Thread: At last. A Judge Feels Pain.

If only more Judges will speak openly about the problems. We need to find solutions. We need to help OUR fathers.

Ok but that won't happen so long as you stick to this idea:

No-fault divorce was a response to a very real problem. The social and legal landscape that preceded it largely prevented casual divorce, but it often trapped people in abusive marriages. It also turned divorces into even uglier affairs than they are today, forcing people to expose in court damaging information about their children’s other parent. That system was intolerable, and we should never go back to that.

We have to go back to that, there is no way to make no-fault BETTER or more equitable as it is a violation of the marriage vows in the first place. It is flawed at it's core and cannot be fixed.

As far as abusive goes, I think most of us are numb to that line of BS by now. Knowing that the abuse goes both ways but only counts in one way...it is hard for us to accept it at face value knowing the face value is a fraud of statistics.

Originally Posted by Billy

As long as lawyers are involved, there will be pilfering, redistribution of a mans hard earned assets, families destroyed and gnashing of teeth.

Shut down the family courts

Indeed.

Destroy the concept of forced child alimony as it is just encourages more divorce and suffering for fathers. Indeed, after divorce mothers are encouraged to be hateful towards fathers since they get the money no matter how they behave.

Indeed. Shut down the family slaughterhouses!

This is not the first judge to see the reality, but I kinda feel less angry with judges (apart from a few truly wank ones, paradoxically, often NOT female!)..

I feel more angry about the scumfuck lawyers, social wankers, and other agenda driven gravy train feeders who make every effort to introduce adverserialism and anti-father agendas and presumptions into the mix..

Judges, are expected to make a fair judgement from what is presented in front of them, which is usually a load of hysterical exagerated shite and bare-faced lies from the mother and her agents of satan, and some whimpering denials and pathetic pandering to the bloody system from the father, who is constantly told "don't upset the mother, don't upset her lawyers, don't upset the apple cart, you will get there in the end.."

Which is, frankly utter shite!!

It would be a brave judge to see through the shit and take the correct option..

and even then, there is no gaurantee that the orders would be adhered to anyway..

Originally Posted by haahoo

Indeed. Shut down the family slaughterhouses!

This is not the first judge to see the reality, but I kinda feel less angry with judges (apart from a few truly wank ones, paradoxically, often NOT female!)..

I feel more angry about the scumfuck lawyers, social wankers, and other agenda driven gravy train feeders who make every effort to introduce adverserialism and anti-father agendas and presumptions into the mix..

Judges, are expected to make a fair judgement from what is presented in front of them, which is usually a load of hysterical exagerated shite and bare-faced lies from the mother and her agents of satan, and some whimpering denials and pathetic pandering to the bloody system from the father, who is constantly told "don't upset the mother, don't upset her lawyers, don't upset the apple cart, you will get there in the end.."

Which is, frankly utter shite!!

It would be a brave judge to see through the shit and take the correct option..

and even then, there is no gaurantee that the orders would be adhered to anyway..

Judges are promoted lawyers.

In other words, judges are successful lawyers so how can you hate lawyers but not feel the same hatred towards judges?

Originally Posted by Garak

Judges are promoted lawyers.

In other words, judges are successful lawyers so how can you hate lawyers but not feel the same hatred towards judges?

They're not going to help fathers, they make there money from dividing families and tearing down households!!

I should know, because my father is gone THANKS TO THOSE COAT FUCKERS!!!!!

Originally Posted by Billy

As long as lawyers are involved, there will be pilfering, redistribution of a mans hard earned assets, families destroyed and gnashing of teeth.

Shut down the family courts

Well said.

The (former) judge has good intentions, but female resolve is usually bound by emotion. What happens in a few years when this event wears off?

Originally Posted by Billy

As long as lawyers are involved, there will be pilfering, redistribution of a mans hard earned assets, families destroyed and gnashing of teeth.

Shut down the family courts

The family courts must be destroyed!!!!!!

Stolen generation Pt.1.
http://soundcloud.com/christian-j/stolen-generation-part-one

A professional analysis of the Family Court’s ‘Bible’ that justifies the ‘ least detrimental alternatives’ to the traditional family. “We have a generation of fathers who are shell-shocked, heartbroken”. It was Adolph Hitler who first said that people will take any reduction to their freedom if you tell them it is in the best interests of the children. Could we not have a non-detrimental alternative, Amfortas asks.

Stolen Generation Pt.2.
http://soundcloud.com/christian-j/stolen-generation-part-2

The Family Court brings about the detrimental conditions that lead to a delinquent culture of fatherlessness in children. The ‘most deserving parent’ is chosen on genitalia. Professionals make judgements that cause parental alienation syndrome. A juggernaut is driven over Magna Carta. An equal society is replaced by a superior class of people.

I have some sympathy for a Judge who loses a brother to suicide. But she does not 'get it' about the heartbreak of fathers.

Her carping on about a prior system which was 'intolerable' and exposed 'damaging evidence about the children's other parent' shows that she just does not see that little has changed but the numbers. They are far vaster now.

She and her fellow Judges do NOT 'weigh the evidence put before them' as in the FC there is no evidence as there is no presumption of 'Fault'. It is the Procedure that counts. And assumptions based on the 'Guidlines' from their 'Bible'. The Bible created by Marxists and lunatics.

At least she acknowledges that no-fault divorce’s broad acceptance as an unquestioned social good helped usher in an era that fundamentally altered the seriousness with which marriage is viewed. It effectively ended marriage as a legal contract since either party can terminate it, with or without cause. This leaves many people struggling to remake their lives after painful divorces that they do not want. It also left many parents cut off from, or sidelined in, the lives of the children they love.

But she knew this before, shirley?

Pain?

Call it a flesh wound!

I pretty sure she'd bust hell wide open if she lost her house, her job and her children!
Maybe then, I might feel sorry for her!

Anyone that is determined to assist and halt the devastation that feminists have wrought is a bonus..
It must be humiliating to those on this board that someone is actually trying to make an effort instead of just sitting on your hands and shaking your head at the injustice of it all..

We need more doers not critics..

Originally Posted by christianj

Anyone that is determined to assist and halt the devastation that feminists have wrought is a bonus..
It must be humiliating to those on this board that someone is actually trying to make an effort instead of just sitting on your hands and shaking your head at the injustice of it all..

We need more doers not critics..

How about you?
What have you done lately?
Judges are paid to ruin lives, didn't you get the memo?

Originally Posted by Garak

Judges are promoted lawyers.

In other words, judges are successful lawyers so how can you hate lawyers but not feel the same hatred towards judges?

Quite simple really.

Judges are supposed to be trained to take the "non adverserial" view, lawyers do precisely the opposite..

Also, lawyers (barristers) take a massive pay cut by becoming judges..

Originally Posted by haahoo

Quite simple really.

Judges are supposed to be trained to take the "non adverserial" view, lawyers do precisely the opposite..

Also, lawyers (barristers) take a massive pay cut by becoming judges..

LOL, as if they can just leave the adverserial mindset behind. Once a lawyer, always a lawyer.

Lawyers have been taught that no matter how unjust XXXX is, there is a good reason for it. They don't just forget it all once they become judges. They are not a clean slate.

Originally Posted by Garak

LOL, as if they can just leave the adverserial mindset behind. Once a lawyer, always a lawyer.

Lawyers have been taught that no matter how unjust XXXX is, there is a good reason for it. They don't just forget it all once they become judges. They are not a clean slate.

Judges have an opinion, but they dont take sides with one or the other, they go off "the law" etc..

That is not to say they cannot be prejiduced, or indeed, that the law is not totally wank and they try to twist it the way they personally prefer..

But the essential difference is actually noticeable when one sees how judges work.. Compared to those who make a living promoting the adverserialism and deliberately decieving to persuade on one side..