I wish I could find the part in The Temptations movie where David Ruffin says "I trust no woman". Back then I thought he was being abusive and mean to her and I didn't like how he treated his girlfriend but now that I look back I'm glad he treated her that way, if even only in the movie. Guess who tried to help the girl? His group members... (other men)

What women are doing is helping to create hostility towards them from men that would have otherwise helped, cared about, and protected them. They're actually creating men that actually resent, despise, and are disgusted by them. 2 years ago you would never have seen me say I'm proud of how that man treated that woman.

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I don’t normally talk too much about my dating life because I try to be a modest man that doesn’t advertize his business. But, I was out on a date last night with a woman and she said some things that I just had to share here.

We were at a public place sitting at the bar and having a beer. I am 38 and she 44. No big deal I like women of all ages and have no compunction of age.
She started to talk about her ex husbands, there were two of them. This is a red flag for me naturally so I was eager to hear what she had to say. “My last husband had no backbone! I would walk all over him and he would do nothing about it. I need a man that has a backbone so I don’t end up being a bitch.”

Yes she actually said that!

Then she went on to ask me why I have never been married and I told her my usual answer: “Because I am not a freggin idiot.”

“Oh that tells me there is something wrong with you.” She said.

Unbelievable.

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Then she went on to ask me why I have never been married and I told her my usual answer: “Because I am not a freggin idiot.”

“Oh that tells me there is something wrong with you.” She said.

Unbelievable.

This reminds me of the many brainless trollops that I've smacked down for trying to come on to me.

The question is always the same, "Why aren't you married?"
then comes the response "You're a smart little girl, FIGURE IT OUT!!"

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We were at a public place sitting at the bar and having a beer. I am 38 and she 44. No big deal I like women of all ages and have no compunction of age.
She started to talk about her ex husbands, there were two of them. This is a red flag for me naturally so I was eager to hear what she had to say. “My last husband had no backbone! I would walk all over him and he would do nothing about it. I need a man that has a backbone so I don’t end up being a bitch.”

Yes she actually said that!

Rohara,
Thanks for being open about this,
A bad experience indeed.

If any woman starts bringing up her "baggage" from past relationships,
just mention this:
"I can see that you have a certain problem with some men you have been with before, I don't want to be the next one on that list, thank you and good night"

Some women seem to have the abillity to make it known to any perspective partner that they don't want them to be like their last partner(s), by painting a picture of "somehow he was all bad, in contrast to my behaviour"
Of course, she is never wrong, they might have been really good guys, but never met up to HER high standards.
One thing to be aware of.

One other flag to be aware of, is :
Oh we split up because he didn't like my debts, from my clothes/make-up requirements

Yeah that was the last date for her, I'd have wrapped it up pretty fast but civilly after her comments, since she is a waste of your time. The good thing is that you found out fast without her going psycho on you down the road.

She needs to go out and find a future 3rd ex-husband.

Imagine what she talked like before she was over the hill hence not needing to zip her lips as much. Or what her exe's would say.

“My last husband had no backbone! I would walk all over him and he would do nothing about it. I need a man that has a backbone so I don’t end up being a bitch.”

This is the thing that got me. She actualy said that she needed to be in an abusive relationship with an abusive person so she wont herself be abusive. Can you imagine?

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This is the thing that got me. She actualy said that she needed to be in an abusive relationship with an abusive person so she wont herself be abusive. Can you imagine?

Right…you see if she is abusive…then it is YOUR fault. Don't you see that if this mythical man was firm with her then the guy would be in trouble with her for that, maybe even with the law. No matter what…the guy is in a bad way.

And BTW you did show a strong backbone in how you spoke to her.

Drop her gently, when out of eyesight RUN, and then move on. Change emails or cell numbers if she gets weird.

She's a psycho.

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I don’t normally talk too much about my dating life because I try to be a modest man that doesn’t advertize his business. But, I was out on a date last night with a woman and she said some things that I just had to share here.

We were at a public place sitting at the bar and having a beer. I am 38 and she 44. No big deal I like women of all ages and have no compunction of age.
She started to talk about her ex husbands, there were two of them. This is a red flag for me naturally so I was eager to hear what she had to say. “My last husband had no backbone! I would walk all over him and he would do nothing about it. I need a man that has a backbone so I don’t end up being a bitch.”

Yes she actually said that!

Then she went on to ask me why I have never been married and I told her my usual answer: “Because I am not a freggin idiot.”

“Oh that tells me there is something wrong with you.” She said.

Unbelievable.

How the **** can someone who divorced twice still believe that marriage is 'the right thing to do'? (Probably because it was her that got the better end of the divorce stick)

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How the **** can someone who divorced twice still believe that marriage is 'the right thing to do'? (Probably because it was her that got the better end of the divorce stick)

Oh okay she is a "HouseKeeper".

As in she divorces at a time, place, and mood of her choosing after setting things up to her advantage. So she Keeps his House, lol.

This is not at all hard to do for a woman if they can stomach it, many can.

For instance by in effect encouraging and allowing herself to be abused she can then get folks to see this, take pity on her, and help her get a restraining order. This keeps the guy out of his own or their house and lays the groundwork for her staying there along with any kids they may have had.

I have seen this happen to a guy living with a girl. She gets a RO with no evidence just an angry day and then the guy is frozen out of his own home and ordered to keep making payments for rent/mortgage, cable TV, electricity and so forth while trying to get a place of his own.

Thank goodness most women don't realize how easily they can do this.

This is a prime example of the very human disposition to sum someone up from just a few items of behaviour. It can be useful !

they weren't red flags they were crimson like those lethal frogs in the rain-forest of the Amazon

Ha, I have ridiculous dating moments too, but I'll skip that. I don't see her saying she needs an abusive relationship, I see her saying that she wants the man to be a man and not a rug or shoe. I don't get how come she didn't see that they are pussies from before she married them and became a whore by stealing their $$$. But that's just me. It's funny that she said that you are not normal though.

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It's funny that she said that you are not normal though.

If you are a man in western society over the age of 35 and never married then you are a freak. That is the way people see you.

I could tell a similar story. Some time ago I befriended a woman over 50's she said she wasn't living with her husband anymore and, after a while she started to make innuendos, dropping hints about her desires to marry again.

She was so disagreeable to talk to that it is impossible to imagine her married again, save that a moron, dolt or nitwit happens to walk by and she pulls the twit by the neck to the marrige office.

NEVO

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I don't see her saying she needs an abusive relationship, I see her saying that she wants the man to be a man and not a rug or shoe. I don't get how come she didn't see that they are pussies from before she married them and became a whore by stealing their $$$. But that's just me. It's funny that she said that you are not normal though.

Nah I think her words were crystal clear and that her failed marriages were rendered understandable due to her role there. I think you are way too forgiving of her message.

Be nice, but run don't walk from someone like this, it won't work out.