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    Female Murderers Seen in a Different Light:
    Society Prefers to View Violent Women as Victims
    By Glenn Sacks

    A Miami mother is drowning her six month-old baby in an apartment swimming pool when a maintenance man stops her and rescues the child. A Jacksonville woman asphyxiates her three children with car fumes. A Houston woman drowns her five children in a bathtub. A San Diego toxicologist poisons and kills her husband after he discovers her affair.


    All of these crimes shocked the nation during the past week. But should we really be so surprised?


    The truth is, female violence in American families is anything but rare. For example:


    • According to the US Department of Justice, 70% of confirmed cases of child abuse and 65% of parental murders of children are committed by mothers.


    • Police investigators and academics believe that 15% of the roughly 7,000 Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS) cases reported each year in the United States are really cases of suffocation, primarily committed by the mother. This alone accounts for at least 1,000 homicides a year. Criminologists point out many if not most cases of SIDS aren’t reported and, because autopsies are rarely able to distinguish between suffocation and SIDS, the actual number of murdered infants is probably much higher.


    Female juvenile crime rose 75% from 1980 to 1999, and female crime rose 200%. At the same time, violent crime nationwide declined.

    Infanticide in the industrialized nations is as common or more common as the killings of adults, and the vast majority of these infants are killed by their mothers, according to the World Health Organization

    • A custodial mother is five times more likely to murder her own children as a custodial father, adjusting for the greater number of single mothers, according to the US Department of Health and Human Services.


    And women are getting away with it. Among women convicted of killing their infants, two-thirds avoid prison completely and the rest serve an average of only seven years. The average prison sentence for females in the U.S. is only about 70% that of males for most violent crimes. A man convicted of murder is 20 times more likely to receive the death penalty than a woman.


    How do women get away with it? For one, their victims tend to be the helpless, or semi-helpless, such as children, the elderly, and infants. Thus there’s less struggle in their crimes, and less evidence left behind. As noted by author Warren Farrell, a high profile expert witness in domestic violence cases, women tend to use “hands off” methods such as smothering and poisoning, which are less traceable. When killing husbands or other adults, women often hire others to do the killing. Female murderers tend to be older than male murderers, and thus are looked upon with more trust and less suspicion.


    However, according to crime journalist Patricia Pearson, author of When She Was Bad: How and Why Women Get Away With Murder, the reasons women escape punishment go far beyond the evidence (or lack of it) left at the crime scene. Female killers, Pearson says, are often successful at turning their violent crime into victimhood by citing, among others, defenses such as Postpartum depression, Pre-Menstrual Syndrome, and Battered Wife Syndrome. According to Pearson:
    “The operative assumption is that the violent woman couldn’t have wanted, deliberately, to cause harm. Therefore, if she says she was abused/coerced/insane, she probably was.”

    Pearson also blames male judges and law enforcement personnel and men in the media who don’t take women’s capacity for violence seriously and tend to make excuses for, and cover up for, violent women.

    The case of Russell Yates illustrates Pearson’s point. His wife Andrea murders their five kids and he, while commenting on the horror of her crime, seeks to protect her from harsh punishment. During the week after the murders, writers, talk-show hosts, and talk show callers rushed to make excuses for Ms. Yates. One caller suggested that Russell Yates is the real perpetrator for allowing Andrea to be alone with the kids in her condition and that he should be charged with manslaughter. Another caller compared the murders committed by a pair of 10 year-olds to the Andrea Yates killings, saying that all three perpetrators need sympathy and understanding. The insulting infantilization of the mother--as if a grown woman is no more accountable for her actions than a 10 year-old--went unnoticed by both the conservative male talk show host and his feminist co-host. After the Miami near-murder, one prominent internet news service posted the story and asked readers to sound off on the question: “Should children be permanently removed from their mother if she tries to kill them?”

    Treating the violent woman as if she were a child, or insane, or a victim worthy of sympathy--is this the way to protect society and our children from violent criminals?
    This column first appeared in the Pasadena Star-News & Affiliated Papers (7/5/01).
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    Re: Female Murderers Seen in a Different Light: Society Prefers to View Violent Women

    "Infanticide in the industrialized nations is as common or more common as the killings of adults, and the vast majority of these infants are killed by their mothers, according to the World Health Organization"

    And when will WHO try to curb the injustice? They won't because they're a gynocentric feminazi organisation.
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    The term is "murderesses."
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    This is why we point these things out. Contrary to Tera and ST's view points that we are just being sexist.

    Pointing these things out is absolutly necassary to changeing how society views murderesses. And to preventing these murders in general.

    Men are the ones viewed as killers yet we continually hear about women killing their children and husbands while getting away with it.

    So is it sexist to point this out? no it is absolutely necassary if thing are going to change.

    Women are viewed as nurturer's yet they are killing children at a far higher rate than men are. Society must be shown the truth before things will change.

    And if I have to hurt the feelings of a few or even thousands of women to get things to change then so be it.

    But playing by feminine and pc rules will not change anything. It's time to call thing for what they are.

    Females aren't as caring as we are all led to believe and men aren't the jerks we are led to believe either.
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    Re: Female Murderers Seen in a Different Light: Society Prefers to View Violent Women

    And our efforts are bearing fruit. No longer is this going to be swept under the carpet. Society has to realise that women are not the supposed victims they claim to be. They are precisely the opposite and it's through the efforts on MRA's seeking to expose it and balance the arguments, the continual effort blaming our sex for it all..

    Onegirl's inane ranting comes to mind..

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    Quote Quote from chevalier View Post
    This is why we point these things out. Contrary to Tera and ST's view points that we are just being sexist.

    Pointing these things out is absolutly necassary to changeing how society views murderesses. And to preventing these murders in general.

    Men are the ones viewed as killers yet we continually hear about women killing their children and husbands while getting away with it.

    So is it sexist to point this out? no it is absolutely necassary if thing are going to change.

    Women are viewed as nurturer's yet they are killing children at a far higher rate than men are. Society must be shown the truth before things will change.

    And if I have to hurt the feelings of a few or even thousands of women to get things to change then so be it.

    But playing by feminine and pc rules will not change anything. It's time to call thing for what they are.

    Females aren't as caring as we are all led to believe and men aren't the jerks we are led to believe either.
    I don't think it's "sexist" at all to point out the injustices of the system, socially or politically. I believe that women are treated with far more leniency than are men when it comes to the legal system. I've said that before....many times, but maybe you missed it. I think it's grossly unfair for women to get slaps on the wrist for crimes that if men had committed them, would give men harsh sentences.

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    Then why oh why Tera are you complaining about us being sexist in your posts complaining of this you say that we post too much of it here yet here is the reason we do it.

    You have got to make up your mind and let me know exactly waht you consider sexist here. Maybe I missed your point I don't know but that is sure what it sounded like what you were complaining about.
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    It's not really that difficult to understand.

    At least to me, it isn't.

    Criticizing feminism is different than making blanket derogatory statements and assumptions about women in general. We see both of these things on this forum.

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    I always felt very sorry for Russell Yates. He was crucified in the media and vilified by the public.

    Most people seem to think he should have faced charges for his children's deaths because he let his mentally ill wife be alone with the kids during the day. What was he supposed to do, quit his job and babysit his wife all day long, to make sure she did not kill the kids?

    Andrea was supposed to be on medications for her mental problems. Since Andrea was a Registered Nurse, she was certainly educated enough to understand how to manage her mental condition by taking medication.

    The fact that Russell still tried to protect Andrea even after she committed the murders, is testimony to how much he cared for his wife. Also, he did not impose his religious beliefs on her, she very much shared the same beliefs he had and wanted to keep having children no matter what.


 

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