This is a discussion on The Values and the Numbers within the The Counter Feminist forums, part of the Blogging Hub category; T he following e-mail (titled "more for the grist") arrived yesterday: Dear Fidelbogen: As I've not offered your blog anything ...
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Dear Fidelbogen: As I've not offered your blog anything of import in a while.....(Fidelbogen's commentary follows ![]() From my examination of the foregoing, and from my years of reading news stories and scrutinizing the world at large, a pattern emerges—one that will be instantly familiar to CF readers of pro-male political leaning:
The aim is to correct the historical imbalance of justice arising from the oppression of women in the past—to be sensitive to women's oppression, hence the phrase "gender sensitive". Some might call attention to a formal inequality to be found here, but in fact a true equality has been established by means of a sensitive redistribution of "fairness". Which is to say that "fairness" has been redistributed AWAY from men and settled upon women in order to distribute fairness evenly—although not in a "formal" way, but in a gender sensitive way. So it is inaccurate to speak of any so-called double standard in all of this. It is more correct to speak of a gender-sensitized differential standard. Do you follow me? Do you see how this works? In a related vein, let us consider the gender inequality of human misery reportage, to which the news stories lately shared stand as a notable exception. Readers of this blog, being a very keen and savvy group of individuals, are no doubt aware that such orgs as Amnesty International have a long record of reporting wartime atrocities against women while having little to say about the fate of men. The keen and savvy readers of this blog are doubtless also aware of what the feminists have lost no opportunity to inform us many times over the years: that "women are the primary victims of war", or "women suffer most from war". . . or a number of variant phrasings. Again, it would be easy to complain of 'double standards', for we know (thanks to such stories as the above, and many others) that men suffer from war at least as much as women do, and even more in terms of sheer numbers. And such being the case, men ought to enjoy the same spotlight in the misery olympics as women do! Or so you might assume. But, would this be a proper assessment of things. . .? What do the feminists really mean when they say that women suffer the most from war, or are the primary victims? I can only assume that they aren't talking about mere numbers, since I have never heard a feminist say that "greater numbers of women are senselessly slaughtered or hideously injured in war". No, it is always "women suffer most" or "women are the greatest victims"—and various reasons are proffered for this purportedly higher misery index, although none of these reasons have any demonstrably greater poignancy than getting your viscera pulped and scattered in all directions by machine-gun fire or your arms and legs blown off by a hand grenade or. . . getting castrated by terrorists. Therefore we know that the feminists are not equating war victimization with mere numbers, and we may fairly conclude, in addition, that they aren't equating it with any palpable indicia of suffering. So I feel good that we have eliminated those possibilities, because I feel certain that the feminists mean something else altogether, when they inform us that women are the greatest victims of war or suffer the most from it. So what DO the feminists mean, when they say that women are the greatest victims of war, or suffer the most from it? I see two possibilities remaining: 1.) that men inherently suffer less from war because they are inherently less capable of suffering, and 2.) that the degree of victimization or suffering is calibrated in terms of the objective value of the victim or sufferer. Let us consider Item Number One. From a feminist point of view it is not difficult to follow the logic, since any feminist will surely tell you that most violence is committed by men, that wars are started by men, that military technologies are invented by men, and so on. Clearly men lack sensitivity in the first place. And lacking sensitivity, their capacity for suffering cannot be anywhere near to that of women. So it is not the least bit difficult to understand why women suffer the most from war, and are its greatest victims. And as the former United States Congresswoman Barbara Jordan so unforgettably expressed it: "I believe that women have a capacity for understanding and compassion which man structurally does not have, does not have it because he cannot have it. He's just incapable of it." Turning to Item Number Two, we find very little remaining for discussion, since this item unfolds naturally from Item Number One. It should manifestly stand to reason that a creature of lesser objective value rates lower upon any possible scale of victimization or suffering. But make note of a subtle distinction: we do not mean that such a creature undergoes less suffering in an absolute sense, but only that his suffering is of lesser import—and therefore less to be concerned about—because he himself is "lesser"on the scale of value. Similarly, his "victimhood" is of lesser import than the victimhood of one who possesses inherently greater import or greater objective value. He is accordingly a secondary as opposed to a primary victim. Do you follow me? Do you see how this works? Bearing all of this in mind, it is easy to see why Amnesty International does not talk much about war crimes against males: because AI is a progressive, humanitarian organization, and quite current with the requirements of gender sensitivity. So now at last we are in a position to know what the feminists really mean when they tell us that women are the primary victims of war, or suffer the most from it—and as you can see, it makes perfect sense when you understand the original frame of reference! I hope that I have supplied some insight here that will clear away the misconceptions and misunderstandings and help us all feel better about things! ![]() More... Last edited by Fidelbogen; 19th-December-2008 at 09:01 AM.. Reason: edited to correct over-subtlety | ||||
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Where is the mention of China? America has a general policy embargo on any American Company investing overseas unless the contracts have specific and required clauses about human rights, minimum wages floors, female-oriented sexual harrassment and sexual equality, safe working conditions, etc. The Chinese have no such policies. The African countries' leaders and warlords are generally as uninterested in these issues as the Chinese. That is why America is so little represented in Africa and China found everywhere there. The mineral riches mentioned are as much if not more in demand by China. Much of Africa, as a continent, has become to China as South America was to the Spanish and Portuguese 400 years ago. The janjaweed are Communist paid and directed. Men are routinely slaughtered in Africa, by tribally initiated wars and strife. These form the basis of 'politics' which have little to do with the wellbeing or avancement of the ordinary people. Dictatorships abound. Dictators can do deals with the Chinese 'Organisations' with Beijing's blessing and encouragement. In these Chinese 'supported' areas, small boys are made into slaves. Men are either made slaves, physically and/or economically, or killed. Boys are inducted into armies and promoted on the basis of 'kills'. It matters little who. It is common for armed platoons to led by 14 year olds who will kill the odd ten y/o just to impose 'authority' and fear. Women are generally made subservient either to the boys and young men under Chinese control, or rendered ecomonically unviable. Meanwhile the 'Western' presence is hardly military. It is not even diplomatic. NGOs abound. Aid 'organisations' constitute the entire car driving populations in many regions. You can sit on the verandah of any pub in many minor Arican towns and see only white landrovers passing by. No doubt they are driven largely by good-hearted, intense, marxist-trained western University graduates with more sentimenality than compassion and unhealthy doses of self-satisfaction at their $75,000 a year 'burden', in societies where the average wage is $365 pa. I have tried all my life to leave the place better than I found it. But there are 6 billion other buggers out there messing it up. I am outnumbered. But... YOU don't just make a difference, you make THE difference. ![]() | ||||
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