I have discovered an online forum called
Crown Princess Marie Chantal of Greece, the subject of which is, as near as I can make it,
pink fluff. So if pink fluff is your passion, I reckon you'll feel right at home over yonder.
However, I don't want to offend readers of 'The Counter-
Feminist' by suggesting that they care about
pink fluff. I'll have you know that I entertain a much higher regard for the targeted CF audience than THAT!
The below-linked discussion thread is on the subject of '
feminism' - and yes, plenty of feminists populate that forum. One of the commenters on the thread is a certain
Petals, whose self-descriptive tag line reads as follows:
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure. "
(Yes, yes; I quite understand, dearie! And I wouldn't dream of taking it seriously - it is only ironic, tongue-in-cheek humor!;-)
Petals has this to say on « Reply #518 on
Today at 12:35pm »:
"I don't know if any of you care but I've been reading some anti-feminism blogs and I thought I'd share my rage with you all."
Thanks just the same Petals, but I've more than enough of my own!
Immediately following the above quotation Petals lays down three links - the first of which is to CF! (The other two links connect to some excellent material and are most certainly worth a look!)
Following the links, Petals says this:
"What all of the blogs have in common seems to be a basic misunderstanding of what feminism is about. Also, there seems to be an undercurrent (and sometimes an obvious current) of anger over the attempt by feminism to redistribute power."
Here I must take exception. What Petals observes is NOT a "basic misunderstanding" of
feminism, but rather a
deeper understanding of it. A more
profound understanding. I do agree that a basic misunderstanding of
feminism is in effect. However, this misunderstanding operates almost entirely from the
feminist side - owing to a defense mechanism which I have elsewhere given the name of "
cognitive fragmentation".
Petals is mistaken also in believing that I or others in the Movement basically misunderstand anything at all. That is to say, I and others understand quite fully what the feminists have said
about themselves. We are not deaf; we do indeed have ears. We have indeed processed their words and we have found them unsatisfactory - so we are peeling aside the tissue-thin surface of official
feminist self-description in order to reveal the hidden mass of things which the feminists have NOT said about themselves! And it looks to me as if Petals and others like her have not yet gotten the memo informing the world that
feminists no longer have the sole power to define feminism. I should know - I wrote
that memo myself!
As for the "undercurrent of anger" - if Petals feels it is only SOMETIMES obvious, then clearly we need to work a lot harder, don't we??
It is most true, certain and beyond dispute than
feminism is working to
redistribute power. I am gratified to know that we would concur with the feminists upon a point of such key importance! This puts me in mind of the infamous Captain Feeney along the high road with his levelled pistols and his call to "stand and deliver". The passengers dismount from the coach and empty their pockets onto the ground at his behest; he has "redistributed" their wealth from them to himself, much the way that
feminism redistributes power away from men - the more the better! But - word to the wise! - fellows like Captain Feeney are known to "hang out" at places like Tyburn, aren't they...?
Laconic says this in the post immediately following:
I think the most disturbing part about the blogs Petals linked is that they link to so many other blogs on the side. The fact that there are so many of these people (I say people, but it's clear most if not all of them are men) out there is scary. [Hey Laconic: it's a hell of a lot more women than you realize!] I don't understand how they arrive at the idea that it's men who are the underclass, men who have been discriminated against for hundreds of years, ["Hundreds of years"? Who literally said THAT?] men who need to fight back against society, men who are being hurt by women's attempts to be considered just as much a person as a man automatically is. [Straw man fallacy: that is NOT what they say men are "being hurt by". Go sit in the back row with your dunce cap on!]
Their words sound like the twittering twaddle of solipsistic teeny-boppers. Yet one thing emerges very, very clearly: we know
far more about them than they know about us! And that is a great power. But here's another snippet:
It's just so frustrating--especially since, as Petals says, as this stuff gets more mainstream, it becomes more palatable for non-extreme people, so they say "hmm, maybe this guy has a point," [And what if he really DOES have a point? Ever thought of that?] and then the ridiculous idea that men are being held down by women or whatever they're trying to say spreads. [Notice two things here: First thing - she admits that she doesn't understand what "they're trying to say" when she inserts the word "whatever". This demonstrates not only that she pays no attention, but that she can't even be bothered to hide that she pays no attention! Happily, I am paying more attention than she is. And the second thing - she calls "whatever they're trying to say" a "ridiculous idea". Do you understand what this means? It means that she has formed her judgment upon a foundation of self-admitted ignorance - and she doesn't even realize it!]
And more:
It's not really about father's rights or whatever they try to disguise it as. It's about taking back the gains women have made because some men are unhappy with women trying to even the playing field. [Proof?? Come on grrrrly, put up or shut up!! NOT really about father's rights?? Put up or STFU!!]
And one last bit:
(And yes, there are areas of life that are unfair to men. But that is not the issue here [I beg to differ; it goddamn sure IS the issue here!!] -- the issue is the systematic discrimination against and oppression of women that exists to this day, even if it's not easy for us to see and even if it's in small ways that don't matter. [I'm vastly relieved to know that the systematic discrimination against and oppression of women is "only in small ways that don't matter". This lightens my heart more than I can hope to express! I cannot begin to tell you how glad I am to hear of this!]
Oh the bloody, bloody pig-headed fools! Their name is LEGION!! If only I could transfer them into the bodies of pigs and stampede them over a cliff into a lake!
So, to summarize the last part: "Yes, there are areas of life which are unfair to men, but that is not the issue here. The issue here is the systematic discrimination against and oppression of women which occurs in small ways that don't matter."
Got it! Good to go, bucko! ;-)
These people are so completely lacking in self-transparency that they continually make asses of themselves and don't even know it! That's one of their most useful traits, in my opinion. But the downside is, that this very same thickheadedness makes them unstoppable. They never quit - they always come back for more! And they have far too much state-constituted political power on their side!
So what is to be done in the long run? We cannot argue with them, and in fact we
should not! In the end there is only one thing we ought to do: play the game of politics aggressively, and make them part of the pavement on the high road of history.
Hey, at least we know that we are going mainstream. They acknowledge it, so it must be true. I think we are doing something right, friends!
By the way, here's the link:
Crown Princess Marie Chantal of Greece Forum
And if you need to cut and paste:
http://princessmc.proboards66.com/in...790398&page=52 
25th-September-2007
