This is a discussion on What Does a World Governed by Humanistic Socialism Look Like? within the Conspiracy Theories forums, part of the Politics, Government & Economics category; MAN is the key! How many times have you heard this on your journey for justice? "The last tribe", "the ...
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How many times have you heard this on your journey for justice? "The last tribe", "the hardest to bring in line", and let's not forget feminist after feminist complaining with lines such as this, "We made men too much of a hunter. We made him too much of a provider and protector". How many times do you hear scientific men speak on radios, in newspapers, through TV, asking for men to veer away from the masculine ways and come to side of intelligence and knowledge. "Come men! We have it all prepared at the table for you. Your promised land awaits you". I would say as would many in the social scene that men are ready as a collective tribe. The aged who knew the past are passing on, the young are unaware of a past and the painful unleash of feminist hate has created the need so much so that there is no other way to go for the middle. So where are we going and who is in charge? Let me introduce you to the CLUB OF ROME. THE CLUB OF ROME ![]() 40 Years old and made up of some of the greatest minds in the world. Reshaping the International Order Part 1 Brent Jessop - Knowledge Driven Revolution.com April 7, 2008 "The establishment of a New International Economic Order entails fundamental changes in political, social, cultural and other aspects of society, changes which would bring about a New International Order." - RIO: Reshaping the International Order, 1976 (p5)The Club of Rome is a premiere think tank composed of approximately 100 members including leading scientists, philosophers, political advisors, former politicians and many other influential bureaucrats and technocrats. This series of articles describes the major conclusions of the 1976 book Rio: Reshaping the International Order: A Report to the Club of Rome [1] coordinated by Nobel Laureate Jan Tinbergen. The RIO report "addresses the following question: what new international order should be recommended to the world's statesmen and social groups so as to meet, to the extent practically and realistically possible, the urgent needs of today's population and the probable needs of future generations?" From RIO: Reshaping the International Order: [Italicised text is original emphasis and bolded text is added by author.] "Many in the RIO group believe that this equitable social order could best be described as humanistic socialism..." - 63So what exactly does a new social order based on "humanistic socialism" look like? Below is the RIO group's own description of what the future should look like. Collective Workers and Full Employment "Society must also deliberately aim at creating employment for all those seeking it and at ensuring that the distribution over different types of jobs achieves a balance between the satisfaction derived from the job and the satisfaction of the needs of society. The latter necessitates that certain unpleasant (heavy, dirty, dangerous) activities be performed. If these activities can be learnt relatively easily, they could be performed by all citizens. Their efforts could be organized in the form of 'land' or 'neighbourhood armies' for work in rural areas, in the field of environmental care..." - 69A Planned World Economy "Effective application of public power implies the need for middle and long-range planning at different levels... The UN Economic and Social Council might be best suited for undertaking such a task, perhaps assisted by the UN Development Planning Committee." - 70Private Sector and Global Free Trade "New forms of cooperation between private initiative and public authorities will have to be characterized by a certain balance of power..." - 280Public International Enterprises "The possibility of genuine internationalization of some transnational enterprises or transnational operations should be further investigated. They could be owned, controlled and managed by an international development authority. The pharmaceutical industry could be used as an initial test case for analysis because of its international social implications." - 281Consumption Patterns "The rich nations... must develop new consumption styles which are less wasteful, less resource - intensive and geared to the consumption of social services rather than of superfluous consumer durables." - 183Financial and Monetary Change "(a) The gradual introduction of a system of international taxation which should be handled by a World Treasury, both to meet the current as well as the development needs of the poorer nations;More on the proposed changes to the financial system in part 2 of this series entitled: Reshaping the International Financial Order. International Control of All Mineral Resources - The Common Heritage of Mankind Concept "In the long term, and assuming progress towards the creation of an equitable international economic and social order leading to a pooling of material and non-material resources, mineral resources will need to be viewed as a common heritage of mankind. This concept implies both a real world market for all mineral resources and a system of world taxation to replace national mining taxation. The revenues collected should be redistributed among Third World countries - possibly through such an agency as IDA [International Development Association - World Bank group]...The redefinition of sovereignty from "territorial sovereignty" to "functional sovereignty" as well as the establishment and expansion of the concept of the "common heritage of mankind" is discussed in more detail in part 3 of this series entitled: "Functional" Sovereignty and the Common Heritage of Mankind. Reshaping Public Opinion "Public opinion is no phenomenon sui generic. It is in part the result of government policies and by definition politicians cannot hide behind their own creation. If some sectors of public opinion in the industrialized countries are immersed in the rhetoric and slogans associated with misunderstanding, then much of this may be inherited from their political leaders. And if these leaders are in part responsible for a situation which impedes acceptance of the need for change, then they themselves must be held responsible for changing this situation." - 110The reshaping of public opinion and the importance of the scientist and experts is further described in part 4 of this series entitled: Reshaping Public Opinion and the White Coated Propagandists. World Food Authority "A number of measures have been proposed which should bring greater planning and coordination in the field of domestic food production and international supplies of food, including the establishment of world grain reserves... In the last analysis, it may require the setting up of a World Food Authority to supervise this vital area of human activity and survival" - 184More on the establishment and functioning of the World Food Authority in part 5 of this series entitled: Population Control and the World Food Authority. A Glimpse into the New Order The final article in this series will examine a wide range of topics including: regional unions, world solidarity, foundations of the international legal system, freedom and the establishment of an standing United Nations military. [1] Quotes from Jan Tinbergen, RIO: Reshaping the International Order: A Report to the Club of Rome (1976). ISBN 0-525-04340-3 Related Articles Reshaping the International Order Part 2: Reshaping the International Financial Order Reshaping the International Order Part 3: "Functional" Sovereignty and the Common Heritage of Mankind Reshaping the International Order Part 4: Reshaping Public Opinion and the White Coated Propagandists Reshaping the International Order Part 5: Population Control and a World Food Authority Reshaping the International Order Part 6: A Glimpse into the New Order Also see series on Mankind at the Turning Point: The Second Report to The Club of Rome | ||||
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. But lovable none the less. This is serious. This is all documented and planned. It isn't a conspiracy any more. None of it is. | ||||
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Hi Julie, You state, "This is all documented and planned. It isn't a conspiracy any more. None of it is" You are 100% correct !!!! Robert. Cain murdered Abel and never batted an eyelid - I wonder what Cain`s descendants do ??? | ||||
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Just to add for fun. A list of concentration camps available in America. State-By-State Index Of Potential US Concentration Camps | ||||
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looks like a rehash of Bolshevism ""to each according to his need from each according to his capacity" """"As a counterpart to these rights, a number of duties must be accepted, especially the duty to use one's capacities in the interest of an adequate level of production..." - 63 """ another totalitarian push trying to 'rule the world' beware of Greeks bearing gifts !!!!! anon | |||
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They have their tribe seated at the table already. | ||||
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I say about feminism over Billy because all I hear now is, "The women have to be in work". Or "How can we get the women completely independent"? I hear this in different circles now. It is as if feminists have turned on women. | ||||
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What Does a World Governed by Wolves, wearing a fleece claimed to be Humanistic Socialism, Look Like? SEE: Democratic National Convention '08'- Key Speakers. SEE: Mainstream News Media Preformers Endorsement | |||
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They are the 'elite' and thus born to rule, because that is (pr definition) the best of everyone, even if that means terror for ordinary people. They aim to do good and therefore all their actions are just! | |||
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"What Does a World Governed by Humanistic Socialism Look Like"" political and philosopical movement with multi-syllabled words are a hallmark of systematic oppression past 'Bolshevism' 'Nazism' 'Capitalism' 'Feminitism' each one of the above rode to power under a beautiful rhetoric freesom of opportunity bread for the workers, land for the peasants, expropriation of the expropriators, comradeship freedom from aeons of male subugation for wimin Hitler's alleged freedoms from Jewish conspiracy of course when the blandishments were believed and the systems instituted - they soothsayers delivered something else 16 hour days gulags gas ovens and crematoria peonage dues for the accursed and oppressive men the moral could be - Beware of Greeks Bearing Gifts or Leave Well Enough Alone ![]() | |||
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Several issues need to be clarified before one can even approach the what, why's and the hows. The Club of Rome idea was started after a long, protracted 75 year old war, both physical and ideological that had consumed Europe and eventually involved the entire world. Never in history had the entire world become embrioled in what was essentially a local issue. The future potentials were horrendous. The massive rise in population since the middle of the previous century, brought about by medicine, hygene, technology and science had led to the world becoming much, much smaller. The very physicality of constraint caused by a spherical planet coupled with this population explosion meant that we could no longer move away to unoccupied lands but had to face the entirely new concept - new to humanity and never encountered in mankind's history or experience before - of ever closer relationships, intenational inter-relatedness, and devastation from disagreement between the membership of the now 600 year experiment with 'Soveriegn' States. Global fora experiments had been tried. The League of Nations; the United nations. These had not worked. The ideological 'standards' of Democracy and Communism had not been resolved - as indeed they still haven't - and since then we have been presented with a communistic consumer model which is presenting a third way. One may not like the third way - of China - but it controls one in five people in the world. It is a 'player'. Back in the 50's, 60,s and 70's there was a strong urge not only for resolution of the ideological issues but the management of international relations in a world where ideas and ethical considerations were seen as common to all people. Which ethical constellation was still up for grabs and there was significant danger that 'Might makes Right' would prevail. It was an attractive ethic to all sides. It still is. There was also an ethic that claimed the Rights of the many over the rights of the few, or even the individual. That was attractive to all sides too. It still is. Trade between nations was a common issue for everyone and everyone wanted a piece and everyone wanted no one else to interfere with it except themselves. It made sense back then to put the best minds to the problem. It was virtually inevitable, given the nature of the two dominant ideologies that a pronounced 'socialist' model would be adopted. 'Socialist' was a euphemism for a half-way meeting house. The problem with that was just how does one integrate Evil? That is the history; the background. There are historical forces driving humanity to become 'One World' and its is inevitable that one means of ordering the world will be sought. We have been moving in this direction, like it or not, individually or group determined or not, for close on 500,000 years. To talk of 'conspiracy' is intellectually dishonest and childish. To expect any answer to be totally right is naive. To expect 100 people to determine the furture of mankind with any form of infallibility is pretty stupid. But the fact remains that the World, Humanity, WILL organise itself, one way or another, for the good of humanity or otherwise. What we did not have then, we are building now. A world linked. A world where one can talk to another across the globe instantly. A world where leadership and decision-making consideration - before and after the event - is being taken away from the few and handed to the many. The 'Club of Rome' was a bold experiment. It was initiated before the 'World Brain' was started. We now have the infrastructure for it laid down. The Internet. It needs a Mind (and a Heart) to inhabit it. We need to move forward with a better model than considered by the CoR. But make no mistake, the very same considerations will have to be faced. What is needed, included in the mix, is a recognition that we are not the be-all and end-all; that we are in progress on a path to somewhere - or someone; that there are specific elements that will determine the right path and progress which include Love, Honesty, Truth and Reason, emotional and intellectual sensitivity. Take any one out and you get something less than human and a humanity that has not just missed the boat that has taken thousands of years to build but drowned at the dockside. I have tried all my life to leave the place better than I found it. But there are 6 billion other buggers out there messing it up. I am outnumbered. But... YOU don't just make a difference, you make THE difference. ![]() | ||||
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Club of Rome sure if folk acted logically but real political issues are solved with ordnance just look at northern Georgia - the Russians saw a theat to their hegemony in a region traditionally under Russian overview so out came the tanks the heavy artillery the military fighters etc wasn't it Bismarck that said something about issues in the Prussian area in the 19th C that things would be settled by "blood and iron" in the end or in other words 'war is diplomacy by other means' not my words but somebody smart thought it up the war between the sexes will neither be solved by imposing a doctrinal claptrap on mens minds - this forum attests to an awakening from 40 years of feminit gobbledygook " I HAD ENOUGH AND I WON'T TAKE IT ANYMORE " well not quite as much | |||
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Thank you Jools. I'll take that as a vote of confidence. They missed Pere Tielhard de Chardin SJ. Meanwhile Vote #1 Amfortas. I have tried all my life to leave the place better than I found it. But there are 6 billion other buggers out there messing it up. I am outnumbered. But... YOU don't just make a difference, you make THE difference. ![]() | ||||
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I must draw up a diagram someone showed me about the Horizontal and Vertical. I would appreciate your opinion. | ||||
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