the latter day Pinkos on the hoof

Timocrat

This is a very serious matter, but is there something much more concentrated which can be used to spread the word better?

Can't find it myself. Although I have got lots of stuff saved, nothing presents it clearly in a short way.

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I'm a believer, it fits right in with the hidden hand though I've never heard of CP. The TLC, CFR, builderbergers and others are all of the same cloth. You have to be blind or not looking to think otherwise.

There has to be a reason the government pushes feminism.
It's not just a bunch of nutters wanting to empower women. Womens selfishness and gullibility is being exploited. At the core of the problem is the wealthiest families who want to control the world. And the money continues to pour into thier hands and they easily pay the important people to push their agenda and control who gets in power.

What we need is what Ben Fulford claims the underground is planning. I don't know if he is serious, but they haven't done anything yet. waiting..... still waiting....



Forget feminist, forget arguing with the polticians we need a strike on those behind the scenes.

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What is the underground supposedly planning?

This is a very serious matter, but is there something much more concentrated which can be used to spread the word better?

Can't find it myself. Although I have got lots of stuff saved, nothing presents it clearly in a short way.-Ragnar

To make it shorter is to show the top of the system, for then it would be smaller as there are fewer, than say the lower positions in this system and its effects on people. The lower levels leave a trail and are less intelligent, or are useful idiots. The higher up the less facts, and more guessing, and thus you loose people like myself in guessing how it works. The long factual use of evidence convinced me (and will others that will not follow the passionate & creative), as they have all left me wanting.

If people want short easy answers they aren't going to stick with things anyway, as they are more interested in the TV as directed. You must stop wanting high numbers of people that will not act, until everyone and his sister is acting, and it has become fashionable and cool (that will be later). The few, the serious, the constructive, the cooperative are the way to go, then with a system of these people you move to sway the sleeping and short attention spanned.

That is why I am negative rather than hopeful that we can create positive change. The future has been written down and sealed so it can't be altered. That is my opinion as I believe the original bible text is true. Everything is going as planned or foreseen and we will have NWO.-Billy

Your faith (in almost full pascifism) is amazing. Look at your churches and how the bible idea's are misused and wonder why any anti-Christian group would not move to produce new bibles and push apathy, faith in pascifism, along with women and gays as better leaders? How is it that they can change so much, but not the word you read?

The bible (as you should know) was put together centuries after the fact, often by former pagans and influenced by the wealthy class of Rome & Greece. Parts were left out all together, and Jesus' violence in the temple is now played down. Why are not Chiristians going into their temples and knocking down the pagan ideas, as did Jesus. Was Jesus wrong to so, all set upon him in the temple for turning over tables. What allows you to sit on your duff as they chip away at your morality little by little? Why does your faith seem to stop you going to do as Jesus in storming the temple, but instead glorify letting church after church be distorted? I've even noticed evangelical churchs centering on issues that are not evangelical, but passive.

You can't win being on defence? You don't have to kill to confront, and you don't have to give up converting others to fit in. Yet by saying you must wait to be taken, when Jesus arrives in the future, you think you will get in by not doing anything rash, as I guess Jesus was wrong to be impolite, violent and active in and outside the temple.

Only when you take the effete ideas as better (never fight under any circumstances, and this makes you better than others) do you thus assure yourself that when judgement day comes you will not be one of those that is saved as you rationalized & glorified your passive nature or distorted reading of the book to let evil destroy much of the world around you. Since when was Jesus passive?

Timocrat,

You are a wise man. Yet, even more than that. You are able to learn and teach from learning. And a thinker.

So rare to find now a days.

I am so sorry to have abused you the way I did. I want so much to be a part of this. I hope you can find room in your heart to forgive me.

You show men's greatness and men's leadership.

It is very suitable for the new generation of knowledge and the way forward by showing not telling. I personally think most have had enough of being condemned and look to a new leadership.

Billy, Christians won't get together.

Their rights will be saved. The lesbians and gays on the right have a say also.

They fight amongst themselves.

Do you think they will allow a Christian to go to prison and go back 30 years?

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Christians do not have it together at all. Leaders like a Christ figure have lots of followers. Death is pretty much out these days for Christians, and they have long way back doctrines to keep. Some say as a joke in the churches, "They are still fighting about what cakes to bake. "

Hey, that's funny. Maybe that ws how they were relating it to me. Cool!!!

One such waste of time is arguing with feminist and is a no win situation. -Billy

I agree with this is full.

We must cut at the root of it. Blocking funding would be a good start.-Billy

Sure so name the root and go after it in full!

My idea of the root is their targeting of men of the west. Men will fight, and so they work at every possibe way to bring disunity and inaction to men's nature. For action will make men work together better as trust comes into being.

Whatever your root is go after it 100%, if your root is too big or out of reach you are rationalizing your inaction, for you can always choose a lesser root you can grasp to go after. Yet the problem we face is rational passiveness, where many people don't say, but think this way, "I can't win, so I will do nothing and simply bitch and wait."

Paul who had dual citizenship was a Roman citizen-Billy

I believe in Jesus and James over Paul/Saul (Paul was a Roman spy and killer of large numbers of Christians). You sound like someone who is a follower of Paul (a Saulist in my book). Jesus & James before Paul, not Paul before Jesus.

Paul allowed the eating of Christ (a pagan ritual used by him to win Pagans in present day Turkey, his homeland). What else did he change??? This is a total affront to the traditions of the time (as gays and women are now) and goes against what Moses says in opposition to Pagan gods. This eating of Christ was a ritual in the religion of Attic (look it up).

The James wing (more male) said you hand one or two times at being a good Christian, while the Paul wing (more female) said "sin a lot repent a lot." So now we have "sin a lot repent a lot Christians" because Paul wanted everyone to belong at any cost.

Paul was hated by the vast majority of the scholary Christians in the south, because he was distorting the religion. They were killed in the revolt from the Romans, and because he was the last one sniveling (or still a spy creating a version of a religion that would interestingly enough allow every Roman in "to sin a lot and repent a lot"). Do you know of any group of people who want to belong to any group, but not really act or follow any risky ideas that this group believes in?

If say a mass murderer (and or former Communist butcher) were to stop killing Christians today, and then say I have repented and now want to lead the church, would you say, "OK, let's forget all the theologians and go with this former very nasty guy who knows our culture better."

Would you? I wouldn't now, as I wouldn't then. There is no proof that Paul died in Rome, except by Paulists very much after the fact. He escaped death many times by using his Romans citizenship to flee, so why does he get credit with no proof.

As I'm sure you will say "faith", but then why not "Faith" is Jesus and James and the others who knew him personally (the other men at his table), and not a stranger with big questionmarks around him!

We take his word as that of God's. Should a former pagan and killer of large numbers of Christians be allowed to convert on the road to Damascus and then lead the religion so totally because everyone else was killed off? Are such successful saleman to lead us?

Are those who died for God "stupid losers" that we should ignore? Are the survivors "at any cost" winners lead us all with "run away" ideas?

It would seem so in many quarters, as fighting martyrs are not spoken of well today, as if the new Saulist get to pick and choose which martyrs are good little passive types to be followed, and which are bad fighting Chirstians (to be ignored in sermons).

Jesus was a brave and confortational, something I try to be with effete Paulists & others.

Find your root and fight, but don't hide in the long reeds of scripture, and ideas of Saul to survive and think you are in God's favour . You will only know that day, when you may find the fashion of today is not what God had in mind (because weak men and women distort, when they live to lie another day).

Timo, that's the first time I have seen you going over the top..

An over the top interpretation that I cannot possibly even contemplate..

You cite some fairly radical views that does not even deserve thought. So where is this heading besides the fringe ?

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Timo, that's the first time I have seen you going over the top..

An over the top interpretation that I cannot possibly even contemplate..

You cite some fairly radical views that does not even deserve thought. So where is this heading besides the fringe ?

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What is wrong with everyone? How far behind is the MRM?

Sorry Christianj, for my outburst.

Sort of seeing a bit too far there, I was.

Down to Earth now.

Ok, I am sue I am going be misunderstood because I didn't make my view clear.


I like to see people's thoughts. TIMOTS is a thinker. Even if it has been about women. Now he thinks about something else.

What is wrong with that?

How long have people been asleep? Seriously! When was there ever a time when people could communicate as well as the can today with Technology?

But I guess we sort of have to choose sides when I don't want to.

Dear CJ,
Are you talking of the videos, or the ideas concerning Paul? Or both?

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According to the bible christians will be persecuted during the world govenment which will be under satans control.. he hates Gods people. That will bring us together but it will be too late. Persecution always runs off the weak ones or fakes so in a sense it cleanses.

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War cleanses too. Should we all be for that?

I have a few older people say, "Your generation has not experienced a war. But when you do, you will sort it out?"

Was that God's purpose on this earth for us? To war? To cleanse the weak?

What ever happened to the loving father?

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Dear CJ,
Are you talking of the videos, or the ideas concerning Paul? Or both?

Ideas concerning Saul/Paul, I did not bother with the videos.