This is a discussion about the hidden hand which is the wealthy elite which may or may not rule behidn the scenes. The two most well know families being the Rockefellers and Rothchilds.

The hidden hand is made up of many wealthy families with ties to each other through blood, businesses and even ideas. Rothchilds are the wealthiest of this group. It is said that they changed their name from Bowers to Red shield(Rothchild) because of their satanist beliefs. They believe that satan actually directs them in every area of life.

The Rockefellers started the Kinsey institute studies and was said to started feminism. These groups have made statements which I can't locate at the moment about NWO which is their goal and about ridding the planet of a many people within our population.
Their ultimate goal is to rule within the NWO and reduce the populus down to about 2 billion people.

They are all part of the CFR, Bilderberg Group and the Trilateral Commission. Rockefeller family financed the CFR & Trilateral Commission. Rothchilds funded the Bilderberger group. These are secret groups which shape our world. Many US presidents belonged to these groups.

Aaron Russo was a self made millionaire from the US in the movie and entertainment industry. He was asked by a Rockefeller to join this secret group. Aaron refused and instead set out to expose them, the world bankers and fraudulent tax scheme in America.

Rockefellers admitted to him that they started feminism to get women to working, paying taxes and to get hold of the children and indoctrinate them early in life. It's all about control. Control of all people.


Aaron said he offered him a special card which would allow him to walk away from cops at any time. He died of cancer this summer 07. He was not religious but claimed he loved people and said these Rockefellers and bankers are evil personafied. He said we all live in an illusionary world, it's all fictitious. The people are controlled, the media is controlled and our presidents are controlled.

Believe it or not.

I do know all this Billy but thanx for posting it. There is a video on the net that I wish to share with you but I will have to find it. You will love it and I know you have not seen this one.

There is major corruption in the world .. that is for sure.

But I want to share something with you.

Maus wrote a post on the feminism movement in the 60's and 70's.

One of the comments on that post is from Percy which spoke of the feminist movement being only one third heterosexual.

After reading that I went on with my day and in the afternoon a girlfriends mother phoned me. I have shared some about the MRM with her and older neighbours and friends. T

Anyhow, this lady who phoned has been supportive one minute and unsure the next. I told her what Percy said. And she said she knew this. And this upset me.

I asked her why she didn't do anything about it. Why did she let this happen. And why has she been telling me that 90% of the men at the time were unhappy which made me think that maybe men didn't really care for women.

She said to me that life is like this. That's right. The women didn't care because just like you they figured what is the point.

Now I like you. I like all of you here. Yes, even Drex. I like him lots.

But I am not like you. One person can make a difference. And if you don't know that then you are a lost soul. I am so sorry to be upset with you but I don't know why you do this. I don't know how you can give up so easily.

Just one thing we need to fight. Just feminism. There are heaps of people who are aware of the bigger picture and have chosen their little piece to fight.

Don't you see that with all different movements coming from all different angles that we (the human race) can make a difference?

Oi ! Attributeth not to me wot I quoted from someone else, Julie, in this case a quote from the text from that thread's dicussion piece.

What I quoted was....

That was from MAUS's chronology of feminism, originally produced by Wendy MacElroy and her good girls at iFem.

But, that aside....

Where one is being perusaded that a huge conspiracy is afoot, a huge evidentiary load is required.

I tend to the view that in any human activity the more effort that is required, the less likely it is going to be. And where simple straight-forward human tendancy, using little effort, such as 'cock-up', or sheer laziness of thinking and prejudice displaying (as in the observation -"The women didn't care because just like you they figured what is the point") is an alternative to conspiracy, that is the more likely rationale.

Feminism has taken root because good women did nothing, to paraphrase Burke. Most women have ignored the rude, nasty girl in the playground, who has been busy taking over the joint for lack of having her knickers taken down and her botty spanked.

Go spank some beu-toks, Jools.

(Edit: Put the acual quote in)

Lol
I said in the last thread that I was pestimistic but I have hope or I wouldn't be here. I feel like it is my God given duty to fight against evil. It seems that all throughout history people needed to fight against corruption or something that was always amiss.

You asked about the whore of babylon before. Did you know according to christian prophecy there must come a one world government? This will happen no matter what and there has not been a global government since the days of babylon. The prophecy is real to me and the future is set, it's just a matter of time.

Nick Rockefeller the friend of Aaron Russo revealed this global plan and control of people to him. The chip implants were mentioned and according to what I read may of 2008 we will start the global ID's which is a precursor to the chip implants. Their dream is exactly what was foretold thousands of years ago. No man will buy or sell without the mark of the beast(government system). It's coming to a theater near you soon.

Feminism is aiding this world government. I believe it's almost here and feminism will be gone like dino. But yes I believe that we can make a difference, I'm just not sure how much can be accomplished and which direction we should go.

“The greatest failure is the failure to try.” William A. Ward.

Billy,

I vented some in my comment. And you took it well. Thank-you for that.

I do understand what Nick Rockefeller said. I took that to a guy who has kept paperwork on the Rockefellers for the last 2 or so decades to see what he had to say.

He said Nick is a no-one in the organisation. And this may just be a set up to take our minds off what is really happening. But we will see. We chip our dogs over here so I wouldn't be surprised if chipping was on the agenda. Plus I do know that parents have and do chip their children in England.

Everything we do is something and it will all add up together at the end of the day. Yes, I do believe in the NWO.

And Revelations says God will turn the people on the beast. (to my understanding) We are the people.

He also said that I should research more into Nick's role as he has not been following the Rockefellers for some time. He was booted out of America and cannot return. So maybe Nick is of importance. I shouldn't jump the gun without research.

The Rockefeller family is huge.

I don't know what verse you are referring to here. I am familiar with the massive loss of life starting in the middle of the beast seven year reign. Included are the persecution of the saints and many by epidemics of dreadful diseases.

There will be two large armies meeting for war near Israel near the end of the seven year reign. The large Oriental forces joined with middle eastern muslim nations and Russia against the rest of us or UN forces it what it appears to be. I'm not sure we the people will have an impact.

The quotes from other Rockefellers about wanting to eliminate 2/3's of the populus actually go along with prophecy.

Elite controlled media.
David Rockefeller, founder of the Trilateral Commission, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991.

United Nations' World Constitution: "...The age of nations must end...The governments of the nations have decided to order their separate sovereignties into one government to which they surrender their arms."

"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation."

David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations

"The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent."

Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviets

"Since the UN was created in 1945, there have been twelve Undersecretaries for Political and Security Council Affairs. In every case, these men have been Communists; and in all but one case they have been Soviet Communists. They are:

1946-1949 Arkady Sobolev (USSR)
1949-1953 Konstantin Zinchenko (USSR)
1953-1954 Ilya Tchernychev (USSR)
1954-1957 Dragoslav Protitch (Yugoslavia)
1958-1960 Anatoly Dobrynin (USSR)
1960-1962 Georgy Arkadev (USSR)
1962-1963 E.D. Kiselev (USSR)
1963-1965 V.P. Suslov (USSR)
1965-1968 Alexei E. Nesterenko (USSR)
1968-1973 Leonid N. Kutakov (USSR)
1973-1978 Arkady N. Shevchenko (USSR)
1978-1981 Mikhail D. Sytenko—USSR
1981-1986 Viacheslav A. Ustinov—USSR
1987-1992 Uasiliy S. Safronchuk—USSR
1992- Vladimir Petrovsky—Russia , "former USSR

"NAFTA is a major stepping stone to the New World Order." Henry Kissinger.

"The Council of Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England...(and)...believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established." Professor Carrol Quigly, CFR member and mentor to Bill Clinton.

The US borders are to be set below Mexico and above Canada in 2010. A international freeway about 10 football fields wide is in the making, starting at the new borders.

"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes." Benjamin Disraeli, British Prime Minister. 1876.

"The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes." Justice Felix Frankfurter, U.S. Supreme Court Justice.

"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson." Franklin D. Roosevelt, U.S. President, in a letter written November 21, 33 to Colonel E. Mandell House.

"...The high office of the president has been used to foment a plot to destroy America's freedom and before I leave this office, I must inform the citizens of their plight." John F. Kennedy, at Columbia University in 1963. Ten days later the president was assassinated.


"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."

Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time, July 20th, l992.


"We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent."

Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, l950


"The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes."
Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1952


"Fifty men have run America, and that's a high figure."
Joseph Kennedy, father of JFK, in the July 26th, l936 issue of The New York Times.


David Rockefeller:
This present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for too long - We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.

"...we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure -- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."
David Rockefeller:

Also guilty of causing many people grief.

Wow Billy,

This is all very interesting.

You do know a lot.

Maybe what I want to show you is something you have been following.

Do you know John Perkins - Writer of 'Confessions of an Economic Hit Man'?


If you are interested the related videos are very interesting also.

Oh Gosh, I hadn't seen the video above. It was the smallest one in time so that is why I chose it.

Please do check out the related vids. There is some good ones in there.

It doesn't matter how rich and corrupt the elites are, they will have to answer for their SINS!!!!!!!
When this happens THEY WILL BEG THE DEVIL TO SPARE THEM!!!!!!!

Very interesting. I knew this was going on but I haven't seen this guys videos. The Elite are Mafioso style bullies. Corruption rules......

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