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Another counter point to this is what your government is already planning to do which is this

Going by your logic your government would need to stage a terrorist attack on its own country in order to pass a bill like this, right?

My Government ? - I live in the UK.

Yes, of course, oil was involved, as the old saying goes, "Follow the money."

It is not a far stretch to insinuate that the buildings were "demolished". Many reputable scientists and physicists have taken either side on the discussion. The obvious is that a plane hit the building and shortly after it collapsed. The question as to whether it was just jet fuel or the structure was rigged with an explosive (and triggered by the fire from the crash) is the grey area. We don't know and we cant say we do just because a few key scientists say so. Iv'e studied many documents on the subject, read the complete 9-11 commission report, and watched many documentaries on it. The mainstream story just doesn't add up, and while it is not anywhere near as outlandish as some of the theories I've heard (IE plane didn't hit the towers the CIA, has been planning it for ages, there was mannequins falling, etc) I still don't believe that is the story either...

In my first post I "cited" 2 examples that could have been used as an analysis for why or why not the mainstream story is accurate... To say the plane didn't bring the building down is a very far stretch but to say it possibly was assisted isn't. It isn't the first time somebody sneaked a bomb in and it wouldn't be that hard or obvious to lay some dynamite in and around the structure. I ask because every answer Iv'e been given is either full of gaps or completely absurd and bogus...

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My Government ? - I live in the UK.

Yes, of course, oil was involved, as the old saying goes, "Follow the money."

Ah, sorry mate, thought you lived in the US, my bad.

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To say the plane didn't bring the building down is a very far stretch but to say it possibly was assisted isn't.

Imo Occams Razor is best applied to things like this.

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CIA, has been planning it for ages,

Ironically, if I was going to believe any of the conspiracy theories I'd put my money on the CIA, those guys are notoriously corrupt as fuck, pretty much international gangsters, some of the shit they've been recorded/exposed doing is just ridiculous.

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It is not a far stretch to insinuate that the buildings were "demolished".

It's akin to watching a guy get shot in the head and then saying he actually died of a heart attack which happened regardless of the bullet. I mean we can't prove the assertion is false (pretend there is no autopsy for the sake of the analogy) but if we go by Occams Razor and well, common sense, I think the correct assumption here is that it was the bullet which killed the man and not a heart attack.

How did the terrorists get NORAD to stand down ?

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The “Patriot Act” was Bush`s “Enabling Act”.....

The Patriot Act is still around...unlike Bush.

So who enabled whom?

The Enabling Act gave Hitler great power.


The Bush family and their involvement with the Nazis.....

We need a poll - what conspiracy theory do you believe in:

1/Its all a feminst plot to undermine men
2/Its a mafia run by judges and lawyers to make money from a "divorce industry"
3/Its a (cultural) marxist plot...
4/Its an illumanti plot
5/its a plot by the Tavistock Institute and psychologists
6/Common law/Freeman movement (conspiracy to enslave us with the law)

You may vote as many times as you want and change your mind as much as you want, as the results of the poll will also be subject to conspiracy theories.

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We need a poll - what conspiracy theory do you believe in:

1/Its all a feminst plot to undermine men
2/Its a mafia run by judges and lawyers to make money from a "divorce industry"
3/Its a (cultural) marxist plot...
4/Its an illumanti plot
5/its a plot by the Tavistock Institute and psychologists

You may vote as many times as you want and change your mind as much as you want, as the results of the poll will also be subject to conspiracy theories.

Where is the "All of the above" option?
wait a second...what is the Tavistock Institute?

Speaking of conspiracy "theories" would it be a theory to state that feminists in general have conspired to dehumanize men as a whole?

Btw I don't know what happened 9/11... All I know is that all the researched evidence I've found (scientific, political, civillian) doesn't add up fully, not on the conspiracy theory side and not on the mainstream idea side either...

I gave up looking for the answer a while back anyway as it won't be a benefit to me as a person.

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Where is the "All of the above" option?
wait a second...what is the Tavistock Institute?

That is where it all started....

It was a group of elite psychologists who met whose recommendations became the basis of British state policy in the family, school, social welfare, work, etc. It is the bedrock of psychology policy in the UK since the last 1940s right up to and including the present day.

The rest you can find on wikipedia.

It is not a conspiracy - its just the "way things are done"

Frankfurt School anyone?

Na,that falls under the cultural marxists heading

I just watched Alex Jones' "New World Order (2009) video/film.

What crap! He acts as though he is on a witch hunt, its sensationalism of the mundane, where everything is a conspiracy. He makes a couple of good points, but 95% of the film is such rubbish. I cannot believe people fall for this kind of stuff.

But then again, half of the people believe that feminism is a marxist plot....ah well, I guess everyone has to have their conspiracy theory.

half of the people believe that feminism is a marxist plot....ah well, I guess everyone has to have their conspiracy theory

you saying it isn't??????????????