"Write Your Own Rant" Competition.

In short, I asked Thomas Ellis for his ideas, and below is what he wrote. So, rather than take it word for word as rules please consider it as guidelines for your rant.
Any member (old and new alike) are welcome to participate.
The competition is open until April 15th 2006. Please put your entries within this thread as a reply. You may edit your 'rant' as often as you like up until 15th April 2006, midnight (GMT / AKA British Time Zone). Please use THIS thread for RANTS ONLY. If you wish to discuss or make enquiries regarding this competition, use the original (talk point) thread instead.

As stated, the competition CLOSES Saturday 15th April, 2006 at midnight GMT. I ask that a maximum of TWO entries from each participating member. If a third or more rant is entered, the most recent dated/timed rants will be ignored and deleted.

The decision of Thomas Ellis, little glutton & Karl is final - the winning rant will be announced a week after the close date, i.e. 22nd April, 2006.

By the way, having forgotten to include it originally - the PRIZE for the "BEST RANT" will be a copy of Thomas Ellis' book "The Rantings of a Single Male". This has been signed and dated by Thomas Ellis himself, so that hopefully will 'up' your interests

A review by TerryGale is here: http://forum.mathews.me.uk/viewtopic.php?p=1630

And once this competition closes, i'll be adding my own review to it as well, which will be in a seperate thread, and on the main site to help promote the book some for Mr. Ellis.

ETA: The book will be posted worldwide, we're covering the costs of p&p to your address.

Ok here is my rant, I hope this is the right spot for it if not please move it and send me an e-mail with a link to the right spot so I know where to look for comments

This rant is taken from some posts I made at Standyourground....I think they segway into each other very well. There are some points I would like to add sort of as a preface. When you cut away all the BS the big sex based conflict we are seeing today is that Women are not held accountable for their actions by western culture where men are. Men and women both do all kinds of fucked up shit....We cheat on each other we abuse each other and we lie about it......The primary difference being that when men do these things and their held accountable......if they refuse to take responsibility for their actions they are called immature, spinless cowards hell we have all kinds of negitive things to say about a man that does not take responsibility for his actions. The largest being the male prision population.

Women on the other hand.......if they choose not to take responsibility for their actions they are supported by society.....The single mother is givin child support, welfare, spousal support ......they are giving special programs for work and they have special women only Domestic violence shelters where they can get free legal cousel.....A bad relationship is NEVER a woman's fault, its always the abusive man or the man who was afraid to commmit or the man who was ETC ETC ETC.....But never the woman's fault for choosing some screwy nutjob of a guy. Even female criminals are given special women only considerations !!!

The first part here was a discussion of double standards and someone (woman) mentioned how unfair the double standard of woman is a slut if she sleeps around where as a Guy is a stud.....and thus I present the first part of my arguement.


Ok the woman sleeping around is a slut and the guy sleeping around is a stud....is NOT a double standard.....Not even close and let me tell you why.

ANY woman, no matter how ugly fat, etc can have sex any time she wants to....she may have to lower her standards but she has the ability to have sex with a man WHENEVER SHE FEELS LIKE IT.

Men on the other hand, no matter how attractive, rich (excluding prostitues from both cases here) no matter how well sculpted his body, no matter how confident and charming .....HAS TO WORK HARD to have sex with a woman....EVEN IF HE LOWERS HIS STANDARDS.

The only catagory of men that escape this is the rock star class (insert random type of fame inplace of rock star if you wish)

Any questions?



Now her response was.....well rather than comment on it here is the link if you wish to look.....

http://www.standyourground.com/forum...r=asc&start=45

I think its academic simply because the next part is the true meat of my rant. It was part of a response to her attempt at countering my arguement.



Here let me help you.....This is the arguement that almost No one (of either sex) is willing to hear.

Sex is the source of feminine power.....it can be excercised over men VERY effectivly ......No one likes to admit this but its the elephant in the living room. Its the reason that the Right and Left parties agree that prostitution and pornography is bad , the left because they want all sex to be scarce and for men to pay everything they own for it....The Right because they have the money and power to get all the sex they want and they wish to keep that ability for themselves......there is a lot of other stuff that is brought up by both sides but when you cut away all the BS this is what you get down to.....its something that almost no woman is willing to talk about because when you broker anything for sex....be it love, power, self-esteem, a house......what ever the trade item, it makes you a prostitute. Because you are trading sex for something you value.

I need to add to the above argument.....its not sex women use as trade captial its feminie sexuality......evidence of this is seen everywhere......strippers (mostly) dont have sex for money but they are still selling their sexuality.....Daddy's little girl certinaly isint having sex with Daddy but he spoils her nonetheless.....when she bats her eyelashes at him she is using her feminity to get what she wants (girls learn at a very young age how powerful a tool this is......here is an example http://mensnewsdaily.com/archive/r/r...erts082405.htm ) Many women go out and flirt with men not because they want to have sex, not because they are looking for a boyfriend or husband, but simply to feel better about themselves, to feel desirable, to feel wanted to give their self esteem a boost.....and they trade their feminine sexuality to get that self esteem boost.......There trading sex (or the promise of sex) for attention. And most women dont think this is wrong !!!!! Which is why most women get VERY upset when ever the inevitable comparison between marriage and prostution is made......Simply put, because it hits real close to home.



I welcome your comments, critisisms, and arguements.

Postscript,

While I earnistly look foreward to all of your commentary I would like to solicit AngryHarry's response.....Harry your kinda a legend in the anti-feminist and MRA circles and I would love it if you were to dissect my rant with commentary.

Greetings Virtue, and thanks for going first.


It would be better if you were to turn this post into a short article, rather than reference a thread on another forum. Forum postings have an edginess about them, but they're notoriously sloppy. Forum posting is also a very disposable form of writing. We're looking for sketches to hang in a gallery, so make what you have to say worth framing. Don't paint your masterpiece on a cocktail napkin.

Put more thought and effort into it so your readers don't have to. Since I wasn't already familiar with the thread, it took me about 30 minutes to sort through the various topics and piece together the relevant content. Having done so, I think you present some important points, along with a few cheap shots.

I absolutely agree that women in Western culture are held to lower standards of accountability, productivity, and sanity. You could greatly expand on this theme and give concrete examples.

I disagree that wives and prostitutes are the same, though. Prostitutes go away afterward. Prostitutes do it with almost anyone. Prostitutes don't insist on redecorating your house. And really, there has been an entire book written on this subject (albeit a very short one) called Sex-Ploytation by Matthew Fitzgerald. It's a scathing look at American women (especially wives) as expensive and dishonest whores. The examples he gives are his strong points, but his conclusions are deliberately sensational and inflammatory.

Obviously, you are right on target with the theme of feminine sexuality as a tool used by women to get what they want from men. But this is a general type of power women use which usually does not involve sex itself. I think Gonzo has it right when he talks about manipulation. And also Carey Roberts in the article you reference has it exactly right, but he does not see the little princesses as whores.

There's lots more I could pick at, but that will do for now. Clarify the overall point of your rant. Give it a title. Clean up the spelling and expand on it. I'd suggest using the forum thread as a starting point to reframe your ideas, given the input of Dr. Evil, Ikanneg, Gonzo, and others. Ikanneg plays a key role as skeptic of all ideas expressed by men. Use her input to strengthen and clarify your views.


Cheers,

rantmeister

Hello Virtue

Well, I cannot really disagree with anything that you have said. Your 'overview' of the sex games and the sex deals that take place between men and women seems to be rather accurate.

There is only one point that I would make, and this is that men and women are probably not quite as different from each other as you imply.

For example, I do not think that most men - particularly the older ones - are especially lusting for sex more than women. Indeed, as one gets older it is the women who seem to become more keen to have sex.

And it also seems to be the case that the sexuality of women is far more focused on one particular individual, whereas men are more likely to want sex with different women.

But if one must make generalisations, then I think that your piece is fairly accurate, and that it highlights some of the really unfair imbalances that exist in the ways in which society views men and women.

Harry

Thank you all for the input.....I have re-read both of them multiple times and I am contemplating how your comments will effect my statement.


Again thanks guys !!

Here is my rant. It goes for much longer than I had intended, but it could have gone on and on and on.

Qualification; When I speak of feminism in this article I am speaking specifically about gender or radical feminism. I am totally in support of equity feminists like Christina Hoff Sommers, Wendy Mcelroy etc. It’s people like NOW members, many lesbians or female politicians who believe that their job is to legislate exclusively for women that I have a problem with.

Like Thomas Ellis, I too have had a gutfull of political correctness, white-male bashing and, especially, feminism. Every time I turn on the TV, read a newspaper or even just go down to the Pub I am confronted with the damage this stupidity is causing society.

Television is now so dominated by women, male feminists and political correctness I can’t stand to watch it. Just about every news broadcast or current affairs show has at least one item on women’s health, how hard mothers have it or just women’s oppression in general. And the networks always forget to invite male opponents to give their views when discussing anything female. Just about every drama series – CSI, The Bill, Law and Order, Cold Case, Ghost Whisperer ... the list could go on and on - depicts strong, sexy, smart, savvy, independent female characters and mostly one-dimensional, shallow, dense or incompetent male characters. Lately, in more and more of these shows, women have now become the people in charge. Usually, the only deviation from this formula is in crime shows that almost universally depict women as victims and men as evil monsters. Sitcoms are almost all based on useless men and their long suffering, all wise, but tender and forgiving wives/partners/daughters.

Even watching the football or cricket is no longer an escape, this is one of the main times when the Violence Against Women – Australia Says No propaganda campaign runs its ads. Football, no matter what code, is now marketed toward the female audience. Rugby League, for example, used to be about toughness, loyalty and spirit. Now it is about athleticism, hot-looking players and role models. One-club players are a thing of the past, now it’s just about money and shallowness, consumerism and the one off spectacle. This, I believe, is a direct result of the femininization of society; these characteristics are female ones.

I am a University student and the hypocrisy, double standards and outright discrimination I see there is beyond belief. Women’s Collectives, Gay and Lesbian Collectives, International students Collectives, a whole school dedicated to Indigenous studies. Stop violence against women posters, anti-racism posters, V-Day posters, Women’s Day, Queer Day ... it goes on and on and on. I’m sick to death of it. All these groups are catered to by special administrative programs, special education programs, some financial help, government aid, help with housing and gender/race/ethnic specific scholarships. These scholarships are on top of the ones meant to be open to all members of society, but are given to these minorities by blind do-gooders to, supposedly, right the imbalance of society. In other words, white males get less and less help from scholarships, they can’t have male only or Australian only clubs or groups but all those minorities can. Men are now a minority at university – about 60% female, 40% male – but you wont hear them called that, especially white males.

I finished a Bachelor of Arts last year and I majored in English and history. Just about every week something came up about women’s oppression, past and present, in these courses. We continually had to “celebrate” women’s achievements in history and literature, no matter how little a mark they actually left. We talked very little about the fact that great men like Shakespeare, Vincent Van Gogh, Einstein, Emanuel Kant, St. Francis of Assisi, Aristotle etc., etc. were in fact, men, and without them Western society would be non-existent culturally and definitely less open to the term - equality for all. This year I’m doing a Diploma of Education and the amount of pandering to minorities that is involved with education would make your head spin. Even after all the evidence about boys falling behind, girls are still considered downtrodden.

Back in my fathers’ day men could go to the Pub and find refuge and respite from women and the world in all male bars. I do accept that excluding women from these places was wrong, but most Aussie Pubs now cater, almost exclusively, to women and families. And the thing that really bugs me is that these women in the Pubs, especially those forty and under, are loud, obnoxious and start most of the fights. They seem to want to be like men. The sad thing is they come off looking exactly like what they are; pretenders. They swear too often, too loudly, inappropriately and just about any chance they get. The thing is they don’t do it with the style or nuance that men do, they aren’t meant for it. But they think they’re cool and chic doing it.

The amount of my friends who have been ruined financially and emotionally by their ex wives/partners and the Family Law Court grows and grows. Everyone sees around them the women having affairs or wanting more from life and treating their husbands like dirt, not doing housework, going out all the time, and leaving it all up to the men. They see them leaving their husbands, taking their kids, the house, and the superannuation, child support and still they say nothing against women. I know that this is happening everywhere in Western society, but we still have the stereotype of the deserting, abusive, uncaring or thick father/husband and the innocent, all-caring, all-suffering mother/wife. What a load of garbage.

The gullibility of society to believe the stereotypes shoved down their throats about men and women today amazes me. The gullibility of women amazes me even more. Talk to your average under forty woman about physical strength and I bet more often than not she will stand and tell you, and actually believe, that there is no difference between men and women. Talk to them about why they wear make-up and are obsessed with their weight and body image. They’ll tell you it’s because they live in a patriarchal society and they are only valued for their looks. Then they’ll pick up their latest women’s magazine – produced, edited, published and written by females for females – full of fad diets, skin creams, blah, blah, blah.

About six weeks ago here in Australia, the Prime Minister came out and said that Australians need to relearn manners and respect. This was after a spate of rude behavior in public by, mostly, women and girls. In direct response that week, in newspapers and current affair programs, the question was asked where have all the chivalrous men gone? Why don’t men open doors for women any longer? Why don’t men behave like gentlemen anymore? Why are men this, why are men that? Nothing was publicly said about women and girls who lack respect for men in general. Nothing was said about women and girls that are, and are encouraged to be, self-centered, smart-mouthed and generally disrespectful to anyone they want.

I once had an argument with my girlfriend. A male friend was picking us up to go somewhere and as I was first out of the house - she was still doing her hair as usual - I sat in the front passenger seat. When she finally climbed in the back seat - after we had waited in the summer heat for ten minutes - she was quite upset that I hadn't been a gentleman and let her sit in the front. I said, "I'll start being a gentleman when you start acting like a lady." Her answer? In a much offended and angry tone, these were her precise words; "I am a FUCKING lady!" My friend and I just looked at each other and smiled.

Feminists continually push the domestic violence card. It doesn't matter how many studies, their own included, prove that domestic violence is equally perpetrated by men and women, feminists still keep ramming this down society's throat. They know their figures are contrived to make men perpetrators and women victims, but they don't care. They just keep pushing. This is done as a battle tactic to remove fathers from homes and fleece them of their money. They know the damage this is doing to kids, but they don’t care. It’s all part of their ideological campaign to take money and power from men and give it to women. And governments hand them money, hand over fist, so they can continue this society killing agenda.

To justify playing the domestic violence card feminists use the theory of patriarchy. In short this means that any male violence (including male violence against a female stranger) against women is part of a conspiracy by all men against all women to establish and maintain patriarchal dominance in society. So how do feminists explain women’s violence against men or children or other women? They say that because women are victims of patriarchy and have no power they internalize patriarchal violence and use it to establish power in situations. This effectively gives them an excuse to abuse children and men. But somehow, not when it comes to lesbian violence. Feminists view lesbian violence as two victims of patriarchy acting out what they believe is how relationships should be. The lesbian abuser is effectively excused for her behavior because she is actually a victim. On the other hand a man who abuses a woman, no matter how little power he has, is never a victim of patriarchal power, he is always asserting his dominance over women. Theoretically this means that if a woman became Prime Minister of Australia and was attacked by a homeless man, this would be an act of patriarchal power. Confused? Yeah me too. To see how feminists get this rubbish into social and legal policy visit these two papers sponsored by the Australian government and sure to become part of social and legal policy here. One is on lesbian violence and the other is on female child abuse. short link and
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But the thing that pisses me off most about feminism is that most people believe that it is a justified movement aimed at bringing equality to society. They believe that it’s designed to bring equity for all before the law, legislation and in social policies. They believe that it is about letting women and girls be all they want to be in life. The truth is, all that has been accomplished. What feminism is really about is forcing society to allow women to become the ruling gender. Feminists believe that they are superior to men – intellectually, emotionally, spiritually and morally. They believe that if women were in charge there would be no wars or ecological damage, no poverty or unfairness in society. They actually believe that the world would just be a big love-in, a utopia where no-one suffered. What a load of BULLSHIT!

Bulldogo.1

I find myself angry a lot these days.

Angry at the way I feel about myself. Angry about the way I feel about the state men find themselves in. Angry about the injustices all around, passed over with a brief mention on the way to the excuses and "poor dear-ing" for the suffering of women.

Angry that I will never have a family of my own. Anymore that is.

The other day, my girlfriend of 2 years and I broke up. Not a bad thing, we just talked about it and it was over. Hell, we've done it a couple times in the past already - so I was getting used to it. But I was really, really pissed off.

So in the quiet hours of that (first) evening alone, I thought about me. It was a strange feeling, this thinking of me stuff. I don't mean the "hope I get that promotion" or "why does this happen to me?" sort of thing. That's pretty banal, and wouldn't merit a paragraph, let alone part of a rant.

No, I mean a purely selfish, "What would make you happy? What do you WANT to do?" Never did that before, ever. Not in the "no regard for anyone else" sort of way this was. It struck me nearly like a physical blow. I realized that nearly everything I did was at least partially for the benefit of someone else. It has never occurred to me that I might be allowed to let someone down, simply because I felt like it.

Then I thought "This is how nearly every woman I know sees the world - it's OK to think of only yourself once in a while". And that REALLY pissed me off.

Not because it's wrong for women to think like that on occasion. No, I was pissed at myself for not doing it in the past. I used to grind through daily life in relationships I was unhappy in. I did as was expected of me. I used to "be a man", in the classic sense of the word. Devoted, hard-working, affectionate, caring, and selfless in many respects. Sure, I'm not perfect...but who is right?

Well, it turns out there MUST be perfect men out there somewhere - at least to judge by most women's expectations of men. There's a joke circulating the internet, perhaps you may have seen it. It describes two department stores 7 stories tall, selling husbands and wives. The husband store starts out with good looking, with incremental boosts of desirable factors at each level, until the 7th floor which is empty, except a sign proclaiming women to be unsatisfiable. The wife store across the street? Floor one - (sexy) Floor two - (likes men) Floor three - never visited.

The joke is funny because it's a pretty fair reflection of each sex'es aspirations for a mate. It's so prevalent I'd wager the behaviour is genetically "hard wired" in fact.

I got the email in a chain letter right around an hour after I got home from breaking it off with the ex. Made me realize some things that perhaps you do too. Things like:

I've been spending my life looking for acceptance and approval from women (who are notoriously incapable of being satisfied - see joke descr. above).

I've been basing my life decisions on how they will affect the women in my life (at least to some degree) - women who had universally shown no regard for the effect of thier decisions on me.

And the truly sickening part? I'm single, in my mid thirties, with no assets or cash - because I made those life decisions.

The terrifying aspect of this is that men the world over act in exactly the same fashion. We've all been taught from the time we could understand words, that men are bad/evil/dofuses/incompetent/responsible for all the worlds ills. We're taught that we have to make up for these past injustices. We're taught that women encapsulate all that is good, and are the primary object of desire for men - above ALL other considerations. We're then taught to be ashamed of those feelings, and are derided as "pigs", often by those same "teachers".

And for some reason, we collectively let the women and feminists of the world "define" us into an impossible bind...which we dutifully struggle at with the vain hope that someday, maybe even soon, women will declare us "proper" and THEN we'll have utopian family lives. A vain hope, when you look at reality:

We're told we're unattractive if we can be pushed around - then told if we don't "tow the line" there WILL be serious consequences.

We're told to be responsible, then taken advantage of for being so.

We're told that men should make more than a woman in relationships - but men and women should be paid equally (regardless of causation).

We're told we should be more involved in our children's lives - and told that all men are "potential rapists" and should be closely watched around children (and/or incapable of taking care of them).

We're told we should love women for the "person inside" - only to be subjected to several criteria such as: looks, fashion sense, income, "fun to be around" factor, ad nauseum.

And we all, EVERY LAST ONE OF US, pander to this mindset every single day, hoping to get laid.

We've basically let the pursuit of pussy become the very BASIS of law in our society. Please women at all costs, or they might "cut us off".

It was this very attitude...this complete Sysiphean task of "keeping my woman happy and interested" that has exhausted me completely. I found I just didn't give a shit anymore. I wanted out.

Which led me to discover that yes, I can think of only myself. It's OK.

Scary to think that simple self interest is a revelation. It's a subtle difference, one that allows one to move away from thier s/o for a job, or school. One that allows a person to say "I'm not happy, and I need to end this", rather than try to "find a way" to make it work.

A difference that allows you to honestly say to yourself "I deserve better than this" - a phrase not often applied to men. A phrase that allows you to live for yourself instead of for others. A phrase that merits the thought " what if men started to demand value from thier relationships, and qulaity in the women they associated with?

Maybe if enough of us apply this to our own personal relationships, if men start requiring women to "keep them happy and interested" for a change - maybe the law of the land would change too.

But until that time, double bag it and stay single.

Great rant, factory. May I use it on a site I'm working on?

I appreciate the courtesy of asking...but there's no copyright on it.

Please feel free.