Why women will win this for us..

**FFFF** · 4th-June-2008

Before I heard of the term "mens rights movement" I was already retired from active duty from it, a situation brought on by watching the demise of the f4j etc groups as an effective on the ground force for fathers..

I have, however, been on the lookout for hope on the horizon and that has included many wild and wierd ideas that may or may not be cul-de-sacs and probably wont even get discussed seriously..

So far, I see the MGTOW movement as showing that it needs some thinking out..

I see the libertarian movement as the best hope..

But, when I look at things from different angles, one thing recently struck me as apparent..

MEN brought in feminism.

Thats right. Men ushered in those reforms..

They HAD THE POWER to do so..

Thats how they did it..

Now, women have the power..

So, women will bring in the reforms for the men movement, they are positioned to be able to do that.

Thats my guess..

And looking at the scene, i see women getting more and more dominant in the movement.

Strange eh?

Perhaps they are looking after their sons!!

**julie** · 4th-June-2008

Or perhaps they know their limits.

Perhaps they always knew.

**chevalier** · 4th-June-2008

I have noticed that what you are saying is at least in part true.

A lot of the articles presented here of late that back up what we have been saying all along have been written by women.

I am glad to see so many women turning away from the man hate that has been in fashion for so long.

People are coming to their senses about a great many things I think.

Over that last year or so I have been hearing more and more people griping about what these liberal ideals have brought us to.

I think the are seeing that freedom without self restraint is a very dangerous monster that was unleashed on people.

And women coming to the forefront and writing about the plight of men and fathers gives me hope that men and women will learn to work together.