Quote from Timocrat

Haiti is wear we are going. Just look at wear we are now and wear we were in the past and anyone can see we are headed for a 3rd world country. The reason that they have more children in Haiti is because the have nothing to loose and nothing to look forward to. If everyone has something in the bank and knows that prices will go down as more competition always brings lower prices, then everyone thinks and acts long term and more mature.

Before the Fed this is what happened, and few borrowed from the banks as they made money with the money they saved. The moment you need food is the moment you act like an animal, for those that do not stoop when things are 3rd world are the ones that die. Anyone who thinks he is above this is not staying alive hand to mouth and can not understand others. Just go to Haiti with no money and live there and prove me wrong by not stooping and still staying alive.

To win this fight we need to not look down on other men from the position of security on their position of insecurity. This is why religious men won over so many for they were often hand-to-mouth and still kept their code.

Indeed and what do people want? For governments to forbid poor people from having children?

Quote from Garak

Ever heard of false rape claims where the man is presumed guilty because he is stronger? Yes, it can harm us.

How about when men are sent to the front lines because men are stronger? Does that harm us?

This isn't philosphy, this is the real world and everything that is male is condemned so it that it can potentially harm us.

I understand your point; however, we, as you know, are not dealing with rational or honest opponents. Just as when dealing with race issues and immigration, no matter what White people say or do, we are accused of racism, when dealing with gender issues, no matter what we men say or do, we are going to be accused of misogyny, treated as equals when it benefits women, treated as inferiors when it benefits women, and treated as superiors when it benefits women.

Women are not going to hear Men's Rights Activists denying men's physical superiority and decide to stop the False Rape Claim Inquisition and stop sending men to die in wars. As someone recently said in a post, women fight by manipulating, but we men cannot do that. Acknowledging male superiority but feigning equality or inferiority is not going to end misandry in society. To believe so is naive.

What is the missing ingredient? What have men failed to do in the face of feminism for the last 50 years? Acknowledge our superiority and act accordingly. Men have been whimpering, trying to appear harmless, and hoping that women will respect us and that the government will leave us alone. It hasn't worked, folks. Try something else. Try thinking and acting according to our natural instincts.

Quote from Garak

Only women can give birth so men must compete to spread their genes. This is natural equality.

For being able to give birth, men give women alot. Women give men an heir.

Modern laws have destroyed that balance.

aye, women have the power of the pussy,, which may not seem like much compared to the many "superior" powers of men..

Until men want to breed of course..

or just, generally, want access to axewound..

suddenly, there is an "entry fee"..

Quote from Dylan MacVillain

I understand your point; however, we, as you know, are not dealing with rational or honest opponents. Just like with race issues and immigration, no matter what White people say or do, we are accused of racism, with gender issues, no matter what we men say or do, we are going to be accused of misogyny, treated as equals when it benefits women, treated as inferiors when it benefits women, and treated as superiors when it benefits women.

Women are not going to hear Men's Rights Activists denying men's physical superiority and decide to stop the False Rape Claim Inquisition and stop sending men to die in wars. As someone recently said in a post, women fight by manipulating, but we men cannot do that. Acknowledging male superiority but feigning equality or inferiority is not going to end the misandry in society. To believe so is naive.

What is the missing ingredient? What have men failed to do in the face of feminism for the last 50 years? Acknowledge our superiority and act accordingly. Men have been wimpering, trying to appear harmless, and hoping that women will respect us and that the government will leave us alone. It hasn't worked, folks. Try something else. Try thinking and acting according to our natural instincts.

Agreed, we shoudl begin kicking ass and taking names (for the grave marker).

Quote from Garak

Only women can give birth so men must compete to spread their genes. This is natural equality.

For being able to give birth, men give women alot. Women give men an heir.

Modern laws have destroyed that balance.

I fail to see how this demonstrates equality. I need chickens, potatoes, and fire to live, feed a woman, and take care of my heirs. Does that make me equal to a chicken, a potato and an oven? Only chickens can give birth to the eggs that I eat every morning. Does that make me naturally equal to chickens?

One man can take care of multiple women: provide for them, protect them, and have children with them. Does anyone honestly think that one woman can take care of multiple men?

Quote from Dylan MacVillain

I fail to see how this demonstrates equality. I need chickens, potatoes, and fire to live, feed a woman, and take care of my heirs. Does that make me equal to a chicken, a potato and an oven? Only chickens can give birth to the eggs that I eat every morning. Does that make me naturally equal to chickens?

One man can take care of multiple women: provide for them, protect them, and have children with them. Does anyone honestly think that one woman can take care of multiple men?

Interesting perspective. However, the egg is not the only form of food. You can go to the cow for beef or the pig for pork or the land for tomatoes, for example.

With children, you must go to a woman. This is an advantage women have taken advantage of. However, they are foolish.

You see, by letting the family courts make fatherhood a crime, they have lost the only advantage they had. It used to be that becoming a father was a good thing for men but today, men celebrate when they are NOT THE FATHER (Maury Povich).

Quote from Dylan MacVillain

What does "natural equality" mean? It sounds nice, but what do you mean?

Alright, so men cannot breastfeed babies. What does that prove? That is what women are for.

If, by creation or evolution, men are endowed with the mental, emotional, and physical capabilities to provide for themselves, women and children, and women are not, then how can one deny that men are superior and claim that men and women are equal?

I challenge anyone to randomly select an equal number of men and women of any races or professional backgrounds and pit the men and the women against each other in a serious of competions: cooking, building something, a road trip, puzzles, washing dishes, cleaning the house, earning money, babysitting, wrestling, basketball, inventing something, marksmanship, chess, hunting, shopping, camping, backpacking, surviving in the woods with minimal equipment for a week, essay writing, etc. and see at the end of the series of competitions whether the men or the women prevail. I would love to see it done.

I believe that because of the nature of men and women, it makes sense to regard men as being naturally better suited to heading the family.. Indeed, I dont really see much of a dignified role for men in the family OTHER than that really..

How can men and women be described as equal when they appear to be so different?

It only really applies when it comes to family and raising kids etc I guess..

Women do well at that, (when supervised by a good gent..)..

There is not much point talking about it really, an excercise in headwanking..

I mean, is a champion weightlifter "superior" to a champion marathon runner?

Quote from haahoo

Men are not "superior" to women, there will always be the natural equality in men and women, but men are of course generally speaking better suited to taking on some roles than women.. and vice versa..

I have yet to see a man breastfeed a baby as well as most women..

I have yet to see a woman build a three story house with her bare hands!

Quote from Dylan MacVillain

I fail to see how this demonstrates equality. I need chickens, potatoes, and fire to live, feed a woman, and take care of my heirs. Does that make me equal to a chicken, a potato and an oven? Only chickens can give birth to the eggs that I eat every morning. Does that make me naturally equal to chickens?

One man can take care of multiple women: provide for them, protect them, and have children with them. Does anyone honestly think that one woman can take care of multiple men?

I have seen some interesting videos of women "taking care of" great numbers of men..

Quote from Dylan MacVillain

One man can take care of multiple women: provide for them, protect them, and have children with them. Does anyone honestly think that one woman can take care of multiple men?

Maybe a cheap prostitute can pull it off!

Quote from Dylan MacVillain

I understand your point; however, we, as you know, are not dealing with rational or honest opponents. Just like with race issues and immigration, no matter what White people say or do, we are accused of racism, with gender issues, no matter what we men say or do, we are going to be accused of misogyny, treated as equals when it benefits women, treated as inferiors when it benefits women, and treated as superiors when it benefits women.

Yeah, often times feminist minded women (both white and black) have a common theme. They try to get me to side with them and against white men by using the race card and the pussy pass together; I tell white women that I identify more with white men's issues than theirs, since the system works against men of all races.

When black women try to turn me against white men I ask why they insist that I view white MRAs as my enemy instead of paying attention to the misandry within the black community?

Women of all races attempt to divide men of all races...

P.S. I obviously don't respond the exact same way every time but those are some of them... come to think of it, the week before last, I had a misandry related discussion... I always have them in real life settings.

Women can get a pay rise simply by sucking the bosses dick..

Men usually fail miserably when given that task..

A woman can get a man to build her a 3 storey house and all the rest, simply by saying "you are going to be a father"..

Men dont seem to be able to get women to do anything for them by saying to them "you are pregnant"..

Dont ever doubt that women are every bit mens equals..

And dont ever forget just how badly the status quo has become now that the state has seriously upset the natural balance with its silly laws..

Quote from haahoo

I mean, is a champion weightlifter "superior" to a champion marathon runner?

It depends on the context; is the champion weightlifter the same person as the champion marathon runner?

Is the weightlifter better at marathon running than the marathon runner is at weightlifting or vice versa?

For all intents and purposes, the champion weightlifter is superior to the champion marathon runner at weightlifting, unless the marathon runner is better at weight lifting but chose not to compete.

Men are more compassionate towards women than women are compassionate towards men.

Quote from haahoo

Women can get a pay rise simply by sucking the bosses dick..

Men usually fail miserably when given that task..

A woman can get a man to build her a 3 storey house and all the rest, simply by saying "you are going to be a father"..

Men dont seem to be able to get women to do anything for them by saying to them "you are pregnant"..

Dont ever doubt that women are every bit mens equals..

And dont ever forget just how badly the status quo has become now that the state has seriously upset the natural balance with its silly laws..