Because "lil bitch" behavior is perceived as female, and men aren't supposed to act like females? (One might argue that "lil bitch" traits are not necessarily gender specific...but I think I'd best not go there.)

Or, maybe it's because females are perceived as weak. Men don't want to be perceived as female because it threatens their masculinity. (Masculinity= strength, not weakness.) I think weakness irritates men, particularly if it's seen in other men.

I don't know.

We tend to dislike any feminine behaviours (positive or negative) in men. Similarly, we tend to dislike any particularly masculine behaviours (positive or negative) in women.

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We tend to dislike any feminine behaviours (positive or negative) in men. Similarly, we tend to dislike any particularly masculine behaviours (positive or negative) in women.

Well, I was going to say it, but Marx beat me to it.

Yay, a first!!! I beat Kim to it!

I should add though, that feminism has made it that a variety of masculine characteristics are now perceived more favourably. For example, political correctness insists we 'assume' a he or she instance of. Take firemen in this situation. No, nope, no, no, no! It's now fireperson/firefighter. Its' no longer a policeman but officer, constable or 'coppa'. We can now assume that women are involved - even when in reality they choose not to - or only at numbers so small to be considered insignificant.

However, they make no such concerns about female dominant areas. We see a man crying, we assume he's gay or seriously messed up. We have little sympathy. We see a man hit by a woman, we mock him. The domestic violence industry ignores him (until the very, very recent past). Unmarried fathers have only recently been awarded equal rights to unmarried mothers... yet, feminism insists that 'the vote' is considerably more important than having equal rights to one's children.

When a man cries, I don't assume he's messed up or feminine. Just human...and knowing that men try their best not to cry, makes it all the more heart breaking to see when it does happen. Even if it's a perfect stranger and I don't know what's going on...seeing tears in a man's eyes makes me cry.

The reason is not because they are simply effete, but because when they take on female traits with relish they say they are still male. This is insulting to men. This idea says the better traits men have do not exist, and all you need to be a male is have a dick.

Male traits are in fact of the brain. I have no problem with a real effete who says, "I want to be girl and I haven't what it takes to be a man." Yet I have a huge problem with manignas and women who think they are the same as men (or often better) simply because fashion and their untried background means they are undefeated in life. Untried is no reason to claim you are undefeated.

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When a man cries, I don't assume he's messed up or feminine. Just human...and knowing that men try their best not to cry, makes it all the more heart breaking to see when it does happen. Even if it's a perfect stranger and I don't know what's going on...seeing tears in a man's eyes makes me cry.

I know some folks are gonna go crazy on me, but I agree. Since I was a child, I'd recognised that men cry far less - and in my understanding, that meant if a man was crying - there had to be a very good reason for it.
That doesn't mean women cry all the time, but I recognise they cry a lot more often... and sexist as it may be, I also recognise women can turn on the water works quicker than quick when needed.

If I see a man crying I think "take it somewhere else you homo". If I see a woman crying, well I don't like that. Even hard core misogynists like me can't stand to see women cry.


earlier on the thread somebody said that we don't like men who engage in feminine behavior, whether negative or positive. I just want to ask, what "feminine" behavior is positive? I can't think of any.

Here are masculine values/behaviors:
1. Peace
2. Cooperation
3. Friendship
4. Creativity
5. Strength
6. Honesty
7. Nurturing

Here are feminine values/behaviors:
1. War
2. Backstabbing
3. Jealousy
4. Stagnation
5. Weakness
6. Dishonesty
7. Cruelty


keep in mind guys like Alexander the Great, Caesar, Hitler, Napoleon and Genghis Khan were known for being in touch with their feminine side, which is why they started all those wars.

Were it physically possible, men would be better mothers than women as well. People always want to talk women up, but I'm yet to see any good "feminine" qualities.

*Rolleyes*

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I know some folks are gonna go crazy on me, but I agree. Since I was a child, I'd recognised that men cry far less - and in my understanding, that meant if a man was crying - there had to be a very good reason for it.
That doesn't mean women cry all the time, but I recognise they cry a lot more often... and sexist as it may be, I also recognise women can turn on the water works quicker than quick when needed.

Yes, definitely. The chivalrous (in a heterosexual guy kind of way; I generally hate chivalry), caring side of me is instinctively affected whenever I see a woman crying (well, except for in certain exceptions, of course), although I've come to conclude that women can cry over stupid things, or, as you say, entirely on cue.

As a heterosexual guy, I'd be less drawn to comforting a crying guy; yet, fact of the matter is, any guy who's crying well most likely be FAR more needing of consolation, than will a typical woman who's crying.

Tears can be the magic tools of women, however, but not for guys.

1)
Otis - wtf are you dribbling about now? What planet do come from, 'cos your perception doesn't resemble Earth.

2)
Disslecksick Bandana, yes - but do men necessarily want or need sympathy in the same way a woman does? Someones, they just want to be left alone to get it out of their system. I know when my mom was dying and I was stuck in America,I cried during the day while everyone was out... I wouldn't cry in front of my wife or step kids because I know they already had zero respect for me - that would've made their opinions stronger.
On her last mometns, I got in the ambulance with her. I was keeping myself together for a good part of the journey. Until I looked at her, and I saw a single tear in her eye. Fuck that hurt. I had a paramedic in the back with my mom and me. I hung my head and a tear fell from my face onto the floor of the ambulance. He saw it. I konw he did, not because he said anything - he just put his hand on my back. But that hand, felt like a massive hug for that moment.

[quote=Marx;109171]1)
Otis - wtf are you dribbling about now? What planet do come from, 'cos your perception doesn't resemble Earth.

2)
Disslecksick Bandana, yes - but do men necessarily want or need sympathy in the same way a woman does? Someones, they just want to be left alone to get it out of their system. I know when my mom was dying and I was stuck in America,I cried during the day while everyone was out... I wouldn't cry in front of my wife or step kids because I know they already had zero respect for me - that would've made their opinions stronger.
On her last mometns, I got in the ambulance with her. I was keeping myself together for a good part of the journey. Until I looked at her, and I saw a single tear in her eye. Fuck that hurt. I had a paramedic in the back with my mom and me. I hung my head and a tear fell from my face onto the floor of the ambulance. He saw it. I konw he did, not because he said anything - he just put his hand on my back. But that hand, felt like a massive hug for that moment.[/quote]

And thats all it takes .... words mean nothing in that kind of situation, The hand on the shoulder says plenty.

Frankly, I can't stand women who are uncontrollably emotional and cry all the time. Shit gets frustrating. Ever had a GF who broke into tears everytime you indicated you wanted some change in the relationship, like maybe she's not perfect?

For the above reason we dislike men with these traits even more. Cuz I'd only put up with a woman like that if I wanted to fuck her, and most of us don't want to fuck a dude. (Though if that's your thing, more power to you.)