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    This is a discussion on Who ARE you? within the Chit chat (MAIN) forums, part of the Men's Talk & Variety category; An interesting comment from Marc Rudov, over at MND. http://mensnewsdaily.com/2008/09/08/why-women-bash-sarah-palin-marc-h-rudov/ Marc H. Rudov said, <P Dabir Dalton, 1) A man ...


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    Who ARE you?

    An interesting comment from Marc Rudov, over at MND.

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    Marc H. Rudov said,
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    Dabir Dalton,
    1) A man who doesn’t reveal his full name is no MRA.

    I’m not bothered by the opinions of faceless, nameless people
    Angry Harry has already expressed his opinion on this. (Not happy). So has my friend Amfortas .( Ditto).

    What do you think?

    There are many in the MRM, all over the internet, who might be dismayed by Marc's hard stance.

    I am known for who I am by a few in the MRM. I exchange emails and talk to folk as me. (Oddly, many still email me as 'Percy'.) I know a few others for who they are too.

    But I respect people's confidentiality regarding their identity, and their decision to use a 'nom de net'.

    And your view is....... ?




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    Re: Who ARE you?

    The enemies of the men's rights movement (feminists, government employees, etc) monitor the goings-on in the online MRA community - hence we all have to be careful with regard to how much personal information we reveal about ourselves.



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    Re: Who ARE you?

    Reality:
    If we use our real names, we leave ourselves exposed. Future employees can easily misconstrue our words, and with feminist lies about our beliefs, that's a very realistic possibility.
    We recognise that feminist people work in various departments of the government, and our names may be blacklisted by groups or just individuals. For example, in England, a man on the Council waiting list already faces a battle (vs the seemingly endless queue of single mothers with children of all races & ages being dragged behind them). If his local council has a feminist in a position of power over his ability/right to be housed, there stands a realistic possibility that she could abuse their power by pushing his name back to the bottom of the queue. We KNOW feminists WILL and DO abuse power, just look at Harriet Harman for a demonstration.
    Feminism is supported and condoned by the governments throughout the Western World. MRA's are seen as politically incorrect, even when asking for fairness is just a given...

    Ideal:
    It would be awesome to be as free as feminists to use real identities, and if anon MRA's knew they could speak with freedom and without political repercussions, they would!



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    Re: Who ARE you?

    It's also well worth adding, it's all very well for Mr. Rudov to speak down at average Joe's using anonymity to protect themselves...

    He has already long ago established himself, just as Glenn Sacks has.

    Most folks are not in that position and they could potentially jeoporize their career, or other important elements of their life. I'm sure if we had Mr Ruduv's money and experience behind us, we could lift the anonymity sheild - but we don't.



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    Re: Who ARE you?

    Indeed! And I might add that he makes HIS LIVING (or at least a good part of it) on the gender wars... many of us DO NOT.

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    Re: Who ARE you?

    Although I have a great amount of respect for Mr. Rudov, this attack at MRA's is alike to a fully-trained aeroplane polite mocking the passengers for not knowing how to fly an aeroplane, and specifically targetting anyone showing a fear of being airborn...

    In fact, my respect for Mr. Rudov has just dropped considerably.



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    Re: Who ARE you?

    What of those seeking child access?

    Tsk tsk, Mr. Rudov.



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    Re: Who ARE you?

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    An interesting comment from Marc Rudov, over at MND.



    Angry Harry has already expressed his opinion on this. (Not happy). So has my friend Amfortas .( Ditto).

    What do you think?

    There are many in the MRM, all over the internet, who might be dismayed by Marc's hard stance.

    I am known for who I am by a few in the MRM. I exchange emails and talk to folk as me. (Oddly, many still email me as 'Percy'.) I know a few others for who they are too.

    But I respect people's confidentiality regarding their identity, and their decision to use a 'nom de net'.

    And your view is....... ?
    My view is that, as I have no problem standing behind what I believe, I shouldn't have a problem identifying myself with those beliefs.....which is why I decided to use my real name and a picture of myself on my blog and as my avatar.

    That said, I think it is wrong and unfair of Marc Rudov to make such an assertion. I happen to live in highly conservative area where my views are only slightly more radical than those of many around me. I don't worry about my job or what my friends or family would think so my main concern is the faceless, nameless hordes of the internet, who I'm not overly worried about. And, let's face it, as a woman, while I get met with some scorn and disgust, the level of response to my views is far varied than what it is against men who state the exact same things.



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    Re: Who ARE you?

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    In fact, my respect for Mr. Rudov has just dropped considerably.
    Don't forget that he recently mocked members of Anti Misandry in an edition of his e-mail newsletter:

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    The "boys" at http://antimisandry.com/ are angry that I have the audacity to blame men for their own lives. What's wrong with me? I'm supposed to bash women. I will not blame women if men choose them or kowtow to them. Sorry. Grow a pair.



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    My view is that, as I have no problem standing behind what I believe, I shouldn't have a problem identifying myself with those beliefs.....which is why I decided to use my real name and a picture of myself on my blog and as my avatar.

    That said, I think it is wrong and unfair of Marc Rudov to make such an assertion. I happen to live in highly conservative area where my views are only slightly more radical than those of many around me. I don't worry about my job or what my friends or family would think so my main concern is the faceless, nameless hordes of the internet, who I'm not overly worried about. And, let's face it, as a woman, while I get met with some scorn and disgust, the level of response to my views is far varied than what it is against men who state the exact same things.
    A massive advantage you also have, Kim, is being self-employed, you need not fear career orientated ramifications. And, I would imagine, with your religious values - many would correlate the two as being connected, rightfully or not. Again, you're in a considerably better position than most guys.

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    Don't forget that he recently mocked members of Anti Misandry in an edition of his e-mail newsletter:
    How could I? LOL.



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    A massive advantage you also have, Kim, is being self-employed, you need not fear career orientated ramifications. And, I would imagine, with your religious values - many would correlate the two as being connected, rightfully or not. Again, you're in a considerably better position than most guys.
    Yep, that's actually what I was referring to when I said that I don't have to worry about my job, friends, family......



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    WTF....Marc Rudov is referring to us? As in Marc Rudov reads stuff on this board? Sounds like a good think to me. Who cares if he does like us or not if we at least reach people with the stuff we are writing here....to me its good news....

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    I think a MRA is either an activist or an advocate or both.

    I don't know how you can be either as an anonymous.

    But if being an advocate is commenting on sites then sure anonymous is all good.



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    I am Robert D. Henson aka Chevalier. I am 37 the father of 4 I detest feminism and liberalism.

    If some feminists wishes to do my harm by knowing my name so be it. Feminism has already punished me so there is little left to take.



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    Chevalier, MANY folks on this site know my full and real name anyway.. many sites STILL link to this site with my name (real name) in front of it.

    The ONLY reason I changed my mind on using my real name, came when I divorced... I got sick to death of my ex's so-called mother continually following everyword I said on here and getting on my ex's case to nag, nag, nag, nag me to fuckin' death about it. So by using an alias, I'm saving ME a lot of ear-ache. If that isn't good enough for Mr. Rudov, well oh dear. I won't be losing sleep over it.



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