There's a lot of truth in it. Sadly, it's no longer generally accepted. Particularly not by those who legislate us.

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At a birthday party of five year olds, its not usually the girls who pull hair, throw punches or smear each other with food.

The play habits of young girls is almost exclusively in real life domestic situations, playing house, school etc. In contrast, young boy's play is usually in the fantasy world, blasting Martians with a laser gun to save the world.

These two hold no water in a house with 5 girls! In fact this is pure BS "play habits of young girls is almost exclusively in real life domestic situations, playing house, school etc."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I friggin wish!

They make little girls look like polly ana's... they're not.

#8 is horse shit. If this was the case, you have to wonder why there are so many women who want the right to murder the unborn.

There are probably some women who do get attached to the unborn baby, but the point still stands. Also, women murder kids more than men.

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#8 is horse shit. If this was the case, you have to wonder why there are so many women who want the right to murder the unborn.

There are probably some women who do get attached to the unborn baby, but the point still stands. Also, women murder kids more than men.

I suspect there are as many women opposed to abortion as men. The problem with these type of legislations is that they are passed without referendum.

I think all laws that are controversial on an ethical level and affect vital interests of society should be passed by referendum only. Abortion, same-sex marriage, euthanasia etc. Not by a judge, not by a government whose mandate is based on general elections.

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These two hold no water in a house with 5 girls! In fact this is pure BS "play habits of young girls is almost exclusively in real life domestic situations, playing house, school etc."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I friggin wish!

They make little girls look like polly ana's... they're not.

This is frightening.

• Right down to every last gene the sexes are unique: (XX,XY chromosome) Male and female as separate acts of creation!

Yep

• Studies have proven that differences are neurological and genetic in origin and are highly resistant to change by the influences of culture. Men and women are the same the world over!

Yep

• Socializing: Whether tennis or cards: women often use the event as an excuse for fellowship and pleasant conversation. For men, the name of the game is conquest.

No. Many times I've gone out purely for the social element.

• A man's world is focused outside the home in work and recreation. A women's world is strongly focused within the home and on family.

Ha LoL, as if.

• Self-esteem: Men develop the evidence of their worthiness primarily from their jobs, being respected in business, profession or craft. Women, and especially homemakers, depend primarily on the romantic relationship with their husbands for ego support. This explains why the emotional content of a marriage is usually more important to women and why the little tokens of affection are appreciated more by wives, who obtain esteem from these expressions of love and generosity.

I see the logic used, but don't agree. Org's like F4J wouldn't exist if men didn't get anything from family life.

• Women need continual reassurance from their husband that they are loved, needed and valued. Because men do not need this kind of reassurance from their wives, they often fail to see their wife's need for it and neglect to give it. The wife then develops a feeling of being "unloved and unvalued", which the husband will assure is unfounded.

Sounds about right.

• Women tend to remember anniversary dates and birthdays. Men tend to remember dates like when the mortgage payment is due and feel their wife gets "overly upset" if they forget the anniversary.

Yep

• Mothers become emotionally attached to their children prior to birth by the virtue of carrying the child in her body. Men do not become emotionally bonded to the child for several months after the birth when the infant begins to smile, respond and interact with him.

I disagree to a point (and agree to a point). Much of the problems I've encountered have been down to maternal gatekeeping.

• Sexual arousal: Men are visually oriented, caring less about the romantic component or personal identity. Men can easily separate love and sex. She is attracted not to a photograph of an unknown model or by a handsome stranger, but to a particular man with whom she has entered into an emotional relationship. Women usually combine love and sex.

Maybe generally speaking. I personally can't just go and screw someone I've only just met, I have to feel something for the person.

• Men do not have as strong a desire and need for stability, security and enduring relationships as women do.

Maybe in the old days, nowdays women seem to get a thrill from destroying their relationships.

• Women experience emotional influences that men do not because of the reproductive capacity: (cycles, pregnancy, lactation, menopause)

Sounds about right, though why biological issues have to be emotionally dealt with is beyond me.

• At a birthday party of five year olds, its not usually the girls who pull hair, throw punches or smear each other with food.

It's not usually the boys either, I don't recall seeing this. As for pulling hair??? That's definately a girl tactic.

• The play habits of young girls is almost exclusively in real life domestic situations, playing house, school etc. In contrast, young boy's play is usually in the fantasy world, blasting Martians with a laser gun to save the world.

I played with my sister's dolls when I was a kid. I disagree.

• In a time of crisis, women tend to react with reference to their feelings. Men tend not to react with reference to feelings but with deducted thought and reason. God may have placed man as the head of his wife because of this one God-ordained difference between the sexes.

I gotta agree, women too often get hysterical in my experience.

• In our material society, we place a higher value on the quality of being a "rational calculator" for it is this quality which is necessary for success in business and making money. Yet this quality is of little value for the happiness of the home. So while the man may be better equipped to lead and support the family, it is the woman who is better equipped to keep the family itself happy and emotionally healthy. The sexes are equal, but different.

I'd 'generally' agree with this. The man makes decisions that will help but in different ways, the woman will make decisions that help but also in different ways.

• Women are usually credited with possessing "mothers intuition" in regard to not just her children but all personal relationships. She may not be able to explain it, but she has a feeling about the situation that the man does not. She is usually right! Yet while she may be single-handedly responsible for sensing the situation, the man can usually chose the most appropriate course of action.

I've never heard of 'mothers intuition' before, this is a new one for me. I've heard of 'womens intuition' though, and from what I've seen/heard of it, it's no different to a man's 'gut instinct', which is also usually right.

• Husbands and wives have qualities the other does not. Each has qualities the other needs. The two are one flesh, a unit, incomplete without the other. Society places much greater value on the masculine qualities. This has driven many women to feel "unfulfilled" in the home environment. Many women, being influenced by society and the images of TV, do not feel valued unless they are working outside the home for money. They would feel ashamed to be "just a housewife". This is very sad indeed.

Today's world focuses exclusively on the female aspect, not the male aspect. This leaves many more men feeling unfulfilled, which may account for the four fold suicide rate in men over women.

• School: Boys tend to excel girls in math and science subjects. Girls tend to excel boys in English and arts subjects.

Yes, although it is only more recently that girls have picked up with gratitude to feminism campaigning for changes in how the school system operates. Now that boys are falling behind in ALL other areas (aside from math/science) feminism blames boy's laziness for the problems they encounter.

• Women possess a strong "maternal instinct" that men do not.

Indeed, but men possess a strong 'paternal instinct' that women do not. duh.

• Mothers become emotionally attached to their children prior to birth by the virtue of carrying the child in her body. Men do not become emotionally bonded to the child for several months after the birth when the infant begins to smile, respond and interact with him.

I disagree to a point (and agree to a point). Much of the problems I've encountered have been down to maternal gatekeeping.

I too disagree. And I also disagree with women becoming attached to their babies once they are born.

Plus, I would have thought that the same amount of men take time to attach. But then I think quite a number of men attach as soon as their baby comes out of you know where.

• Women are usually credited with possessing "mothers intuition" in regard to not just her children but all personal relationships. She may not be able to explain it, but she has a feeling about the situation that the man does not. She is usually right! Yet while she may be single-handedly responsible for sensing the situation, the man can usually chose the most appropriate course of action.

I've never heard of 'mothers intuition' before, this is a new one for me. I've heard of 'womens intuition' though, and from what I've seen/heard of it, it's no different to a man's 'gut instinct', which is also usually right.

I have heard of this. And I agree with it. However, I think women have become so busy they may be losing this.

• Women possess a strong "maternal instinct" that men do not.

Indeed, but men possess a strong 'paternal instinct' that women do not. duh.


No! This is a part of why 24 hour childcare is wanted by older women. They don't see it as women putting their children in care for 24 hours like us who are afraid of this happening. They think it is a great idea to give women and men somewhere to put their children for a break.

Also many mothers who got involved in feminism felt that their mothers and some of themselves didn't really like being mothers. That would also be a push behind abortion.


They also forgot females liking colors and not just black and white.

1. Right down to every last gene the sexes are unique: (XX,XY chromosome) Male and female as separate acts of creation!

There are 3,000,000,000 people with XX and another 3,000,000,000 with XY, give or take a few.

Hardly friggin 'Unique' then.

The first part is no proof of the second part. The second does not follow from the first. In fact there is no link at all.

After No 1, the writer lost me. And he/it has the friggin' cheek to talk about logic and feeling. Gordon Bennett.

Right down to every last gene the sexes are unique: (XX,XY chromosome) Male and female as separate acts of creation!

I don't believe that it is necessarily this cut and dry. For one I don't believe in creationism; that's neither here nor there however what I have been brought to understand about the differences between men and women is that there is a certain level of overlapping regarding masculine and feminine qualities. It is not that there is man, woman and each is created of a unique set of components, but rather that men and women draw in part each from masculine and feminine components in addition to gender neutral components and lastly each may also draw from qualities traditionally regarded as being the domain of the opposite sex.

Consider that X is masculine, Y is gender neutral and Z is feminine. Psychologically and physiologically the average man may be composed 50% of male qualities, 40% of gender neutral qualities and 10% of feminine qualities, the average female being the opposite of this. The male and female are each rooted in their respective gender qualities which form a basis or core of their being; this is represented by a static % reflecting the simple physiological differences between men and women, some of which effect the behavior, the mentality, emotions, etc of the individual in a manner that is similar, but not identical, from individual to individual. Some of these differences may however be purely physical and not effect the character of the individual however and nor are the emotional, psychological, characteristic or even, to some degree, the physical components of each sex mutually exclusive; as can be observed.

Thus each person is different and so there is a great deal of diversity regarding the makeup of each individual, despite their person being rooted in a fixed % of 'exclusively' male, or female components. So while one may be able to attribute certain traits to masculinity or femininity, these tend to display themselves in a more general than specific sense. It is possible for a man to be feminine in his attitudes and characteristics, it is possible for a woman to be masculine in her attitudes and characteristics, it is possible for some individuals to exhibit primarily gender-neutral attitudes and characteristics, but it is not, on the other hand, probable that groups of people, collectives of individuals, will display these aberrant qualities.

All this I feel should be self-evident. To attribute to humans less than this is to do them a great disrespect, and to be guilty of arbitrary thinking. We are after all each our own person first and foremost, a member of our race, our whole race, the collective of humanity second and, then, a representative of our respective sexual 'culture'.

XX means the accumulation of all the safe genes from the beginning of time. Men have half the safe genes X, and half the dangerous ones Y. When and where they choose to be dangerous proves their success or failure. "No dangers please I'm a Mangina" (that do not include talking or sexual dangers) means they bring, like women, more X genes in mating to the game. As society gets more and more competitive such safe types will lose.

Men are the newer thing on the scene, thus X and Y is likely filled with a whole crop of new stuff( or stuff that will make you learn new dangerous stuff). You can't blanket this issue, nor ignore how the generalizations hit home.

As we speak women are learning all the safe things that have lost all elements of danger to them, and become fashionable. They will take any trait, idea, and talking point the moment it becomes less dangerous.

So to try and cut this issue as "cut apples is a man's job" and a woman's job is "cutting oranges" is just silly. Get some woman to start a new X sport (that doesn't involve talking how bad ass she is, or how bad ass she was at doing some sexual act, or occasionally includes strange foods or drinking too much) and you will see what I mean.

If she is one of the few exceptions in the necessary thinking, and dares to give it a go, she may die, as nature has made her more likely to fail with none of the body tools. If she has the body that can get close to the boys, she is less likley to have the mentality and will say, "I'm not going to do this macho BS."

If she is a fluke of nature (which the first male ever was) and has the body and mind she is likely to get killed before she has a child, and thus ends this little experiment in trying to prove the egalitarians need to give each other a group hug. HUg Hug. As women who go for carrier over kids also make sure their are less in the future too.

Now do you know any girls going around trying to jump over a charging bull or mountains ram. It's the latest thing. A male will find something like this (in our safe little worlds we live in) for fun, with no one else around to talk to, as everyone thinks he is insane. Then a photo will show him doing it and it will catch on with the mountain climbing death wish males and then this guy( or one of the later arrivals will have a special harness to do the jumping and walaa you have a new product that makes millions for the guy that sells it with many totally cooools sales pitches.

Then they start giving prize money and girls start to take notice, and want into the attention getting and start to wear ram jumping clothes to attract ram jumpers. After their are rules to make it more safe we have presto "the girls are in", and tell how they can do it as good as any guy or bloke too.

Now in Crete this was a actual sport/cultural activity (Bull leaping).

The same thing will happen with inventions too, as it involves doing things by yourself for years (which no woman ever wants to be by herself for years). It involves ignoring fashion, which is another world for convention, which no woman likes to do outside of talk, sex, food and clothes.

So going off into a stupid direction to come up with something no one imagined, will be left to the being alone is nice and quiet male, and doing something that no one else was doing will be left to the dangerous social jettising male " who "doesn't give a shit what everyone else is doing or saying about him."

MRAs are like this right now, we are bucking convention. Yet the egalitarians want us back with the herd, as the many women who keep telling us, " Well, don't you want people to like you?"

The culture will come along eventually (it is slowly now), and before you know it we will have millions of manginas and women saying, "I was against feminism from the very begining." "Oh I love your MRA men are sexy T-shirt Becky, where can I get one?" "Does it come in pastels?"

XX means the accumulation of all the safe genes from the beginning of time. Men have half the safe genes X, and half the dangerous ones Y.

So, women = good: men = bad.

Or, that is a load of cobblers.

'Safe' genes?? These are ...... ?

'Dangerous' genes? Oooower, am I scared?

Tim, I usually find merit in your words, but most of that post was just tripe.

Or maybe its just the way you say it.

Sorry, mate.

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These two hold no water in a house with 5 girls! In fact this is pure BS "play habits of young girls is almost exclusively in real life domestic situations, playing house, school etc."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I friggin wish!

They make little girls look like polly ana's... they're not.

Yes, I though that, as a father of 9 daughters, I sorta have noticed they can be, well, very aggressive!! I am sure it is not just my genepool that is affected!

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• become emotionally attached to their children prior to birth by the virtue of carrying the child in her body. Men do not become emotionally bonded to the child for several months after the birth when the infant begins to smile, respond and interact with him.

I disagree to a point (and agree to a point). Much of the problems I've encountered have been down to maternal gatekeeping.

Indeed. And once they have established that in early life, its then very hard for a gent to do what he feels he needs to get his input to be effective. I am completely at the mercy of womens whims with my kids, to such an extent that it makes me wonder if its even worth the effort often as one can be sure that even when one is spending time with ones kids, it has to be all the womans way!!

I agree that its hard to bond with a baby as a father. Its bloody terrifying to me, the thought that I am responsible for something so incredibly dependant and incapable. I am very greatful for mothers amazing natural talents in this area!

Oddly, I am very capable of doing all the required things for babies, many years of experience, still, its too scarey for me!!

• • Sexual arousal: Men are visually oriented, caring less about the romantic component or personal identity. Men can easily separate love and sex. She is attracted not to a photograph of an unknown model or by a handsome stranger, but to a particular man with whom she has entered into an emotional relationship. Women usually combine love and sex.

  Maybe generally speaking. I personally can't just go and screw someone I've only just met, I have to feel something for the person.
  

I think I am probably more like a woman in this regard. I seem to be only able to have sex with something I love. Fortunately, I love everything!!

Oddly, hating them seems to work just as well!

Then again, I am a sicko!!

Men do not have as strong a desire and need for stability, security and enduring relationships as women do.
Maybe in the old days, nowdays women seem to get a thrill from destroying their relationships.

I do have a very strong desire for these things. I find that women dont seem to, when it comes to it.. In my own experience.

At a birthday party of five year olds, its not usually the girls who pull hair, throw punches or smear each other with food.
It's not usually the boys either, I don't recall seeing this. As for pulling hair??? That's definately a girl tactic.

In my experience, its usually the parents who do this..

The play habits of young girls is almost exclusively in real life domestic situations, playing house, school etc. In contrast, young boy's play is usually in the fantasy world, blasting Martians with a laser gun to save the world.
I played with my sister's dolls when I was a kid. I disagree.

Horses and rabbits for my kids. For both genders !

• • In our material society, we place a higher value on the quality of being a "rational calculator" for it is this quality which is necessary for success in business and making money. Yet this quality is of little value for the happiness of the home. So while the man may be better equipped to lead and support the family, it is the woman who is better equipped to keep the family itself happy and emotionally healthy. The sexes are equal, but different.

  I'd 'generally' agree with this. The man makes decisions that will help but in different ways, the woman will make decisions that help but also in different ways.
  

Men decide things, using womens great abilities to provide the required information in doing so! The two are essential. I would not be aware of problems if they are not presented to me. In effect, it is easy to see the power of the woman, even under "token" male headship. She is naturally the "fact finder" in certain areas, the man then can use his emotional detachment to determine just how to deal with the problems (of the mother in law??)

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  • Women are usually credited with possessing "mothers intuition" in regard to not just her children but all personal relationships. She may not be able to explain it, but she has a feeling about the situation that the man does not. She is usually right! Yet while she may be single-handedly responsible for sensing the situation, the man can usually chose the most appropriate course of action.

  I've never heard of 'mothers intuition' before, this is a new one for me. I've heard of 'womens intuition' though, and from what I've seen/heard of it, it's no different to a man's 'gut instinct', which is also usually right.
  

I definately have much more intuition than most women! Even though it is supposedly a feminine trait. I never have a clue as to what is the best option though! Swearing a lot seems to work..(it keeps people away and hence removes problems that way!!)

Today's world focuses exclusively on the female aspect, not the male aspect. This leaves many more men feeling unfulfilled, which may account for the four fold suicide rate in men over women.

The world is now femicentric. Practically Everything is judged on feminine standards, especially regards kids. Which is not good as it completely disregards or feminises fathers natural roles.

• • School: Boys tend to excel girls in math and science subjects. Girls tend to excel boys in English and arts subjects.

  Yes, although it is only more recently that girls have picked up with gratitude to feminism campaigning for changes in how the school system operates. Now that boys are falling behind in ALL other areas (aside from math/science) feminism blames boy's laziness for the problems they encounter.
  

School in my opinion is a trial of life. After the age of about 9 or so, its all about brainwashing kids into compliance as the basic skills for life and education have already been learned by then.. The "3R's"..

• Women possess a strong "maternal instinct" that men do not.

Indeed, but men possess a strong 'paternal instinct' that women do not. duh.

Yip!!

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MRAs are like this right now, we are bucking convention. Yet the egalitarians want us back with the herd, as the many women who keep telling us, " Well, don't you want people to like you?"

The culture will come along eventually (it is slowly now), and before you know it we will have millions of manginas and women saying, "I was against feminism from the very begining." "Oh I love your MRA men are sexy T-shirt Becky, where can I get one?" "Does it come in pastels?"

haha! yes. its sad to see so many people thinking that MRA's need to be popular to be successful!

In my opinion, popularity with the current set of statists and feminists and other milque toasts is a gaurantee of ZERO success in anything other than self-feminisation!!

We need to make manly attitudes popular with the masses, not adapt our attitudes to be popular with the masses as they current are too feminised!