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The typical MRA attitude: Marc Rudov nails it

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The typical MRA attitude: Marc Rudov nails it

I got Marc Rudov's e-mail newsletter today. Here's a quote that is oh-so-true:

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A prominent attorney for men told me this yesterday:

"The typical guy signs everything over to his wife, works without a lawyer, gets utterly f*cked, and only realizes, after it's pretty much too late, to fix things up. At that point, when he wants to hire a lawyer, he is too broke because all his money is going to the ex-wife each month."

If you want to improve your life, you will act and you will pay -- today. Snoozers are losers.

If you want to stagnate, procrastinate, and remain in status quo, you will stew in silence, complain on MRA blogs under an alias, and blame all your woes on feminism. You will hope that others fix the world.



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Re: The typical MRA attitude: Marc Rudov nails it

Yep, he's right. If men want to do something, they should boycott women and work.





 
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Re: The typical MRA attitude: Marc Rudov nails it

I have railed against the peonage contract but they rush to sign in the futile hope off getting eternal access to her smelly ({})


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Re: The typical MRA attitude: Marc Rudov nails it

Marc Rudov seems to think that we all agree on what the goals are and on what needs to be done about it.


 
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Re: The typical MRA attitude: Marc Rudov nails it

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I got Marc Rudov's e-mail newsletter today. Here's a quote that is oh-so-true:
The problem is, that cunt is a lawyer!!

Hes selling the lawyers services!


 
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Re: The typical MRA attitude: Marc Rudov nails it

I agree with all he says except :

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"and blame all your woes on feminism."
I went to a committee touring my home country on all these issues (now over 15 years ago). There were feminists there on mass, they were on parliamentarians' staff whispering in their ears, and in other people's ears as they spoke, as if they had full reign of the proceedings.

They had women with sob stories lined up the whazoo, and no MRAs around at all (during the afternoon session at least), except me. MRAs were probably not properly informed of the time and place, or indirectly led a stay. The other side was as surprised as hell that I was even there.

To try and not blame feminism is a total sin on Marc's part, and he would get an earfull from me if he ever tried that BS is front off me.

Second, if he is a lawyer, as FFF says, then we should take his advise on the US legal system with a big grain of salt. There are many MRA sites that have lawyers selling their wears and talking about how they can do what others can't. The rich men can afford better lawyers, but it is not the rich men who are suffering and it all depends also on the judge.

I got a lawyer at first, but it did nothing in getting me any access. They will not impose any sanctions for non-compliance. The other lawyer knew that and probably urged my ex to give no access as they all knew the court's ways. The court respected my efforts so much that at the late date my wife started to complain about my parents (as the court knew noting of them, and thus would take her claims as they couldn't defend themselves, as they weren't even part of the case). Any more money spent would have got me nowhere! What I do and spend now is money better spent.

The lawyer lobby is huge in the US and they fund candidates in the billions! Anyone who dismisses this powerful group is totally suspect in my books.

Paraphasing Shakespeare he said:
Quote:
" In the next revolution we need to deal with the lawyers & judges first."


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Re: The typical MRA attitude: Marc Rudov nails it

The Americans are very good at showing off statistics regarding who does what. I don't know anthing about Oz's or the Uk's numbers but around Capitol Hill there are 80,000 lawyers and 150,000 PR / lobbyists. The fetid breath going inward and farts blowing out are gale force.

Timo is right. A force to be reckoned with and they are not our friends.

A strategy to make them our friends would be handy - like having an army of Pit Bulls - but only Government and corrupt business money can buy them. A better strategic weapon would be a thermobaric one.



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Re: The typical MRA attitude: Marc Rudov nails it

How does he feel he can absolve feminism?
note I use the word f e e l...
Because logical scrutiny from any sane moderately intelligent person cannot fail to see that feminism is the evil plague of our time.
It will and must be regarded with the same view as nazism is now/
The followers of nazism still exist they look and are both evil and foolish that must and will be the destiny for feminism too.

Law is polluted we have feminist lecturers in law on cushy numbers in universities and the feminist influence on the law and the state is MASSIVE.
As Timocrat has encountered first hand.

In the next revolution we need to deal with the lawyers & judges first."

vermin..... and most judges talk bs 100% of the time



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Re: The typical MRA attitude: Marc Rudov nails it

I am not Rudov's lawyer, I have no brief to defend him, but.....

He has a self-brief to get men to take responsibility for their actions and know women. And know the risks. He has a book to sell. I am (fairly) sure that he can recognise that feminism has a lot to answer for and is a strong contributory factor.

Marc is an active and successful MRA.


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Re: The typical MRA attitude: Marc Rudov nails it

Of course he is Percy I changed into the hulk when I saw

"and blame all your woes on feminism"

Well I do, mostly!



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Re: The typical MRA attitude: Marc Rudov nails it

ah....but he forgets to mention that it is those lawyers (and law enforcement, and relatives, and friends) who tell him, while he is at the most vulnerable point in his life (weak, broken), that he must do those things (sign away his rights, don't make waves)...that if he does what they say, things will "be better for him" in the long run. And he has not the strength, nor the will, nor the knowledge to fight against what he is told by so many. He wants to do the "right thing." And it is only later on that he realizes that what others have told him about "the right thing" is exactly the "wrong thing" and he is not better off, he is now officially screwed, with very little recourse to fix the situation.

While I agree that more needs to be done than just "writing blogs" and posting to men's rights sites, let's not forget that the information that is learned through these tools is an eye-opener for many. It may be the ONLY source of meaningful information that is out there right now regarding men's issues and concerns.

Just my opinion.


 
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let's not forget that the information that is learned through these tools is an eye-opener for many. It may be the ONLY source of meaningful information that is out there right now regarding men's issues and concerns.
Definitely.


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