And marriage was "originally" an agreement between to nomadic families to encourage genetic drift. the parties involved usually had little to no say in the matter.

So if you're so caught up in what is "originally" was, maybe we should all go back to arranged marriage?

As usual, destroy anything that stand for longevity, honour and dignity is obviously not in their "man marrying man is normal" mantra..

Where is the puke bowl ?

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As usual, destroy anything that stand for longevity, honour and dignity is obviously not in their "man marrying man is normal" mantra..

Where is the puke bowl ?

I dare say I know a GREAT deal about honor. I have never questioned yours CJ, don't question mine. We have not lived each other's lives.

And slavery had longevity as well, but not honor. The two are not mutually inclusive.

Travis, you should read "Sex and Culture" by Unwin.

All of the most successful culture in history were based on monogamous marriage. Yes, polygamy has been more common in history than monogamy, and that is why cultural failure has been more common than cultural success.

As for your comments about Rome, the period in Roman history that you mention is very similar to our own, with marriage and morality is steep decay. And like in our time, there was a misguided attempt to blame homosexuality for moral decay. Homosexuality is not a moral problem. The decline of traditional monogamous marriage is the problem, and this has been the case in the decline of every successful culture in history.

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I said it before, in Germany if you want to have a long term relationship with children you are better of when you marry. You have to pay anyway if the relationship ends (the state can deem your relationship to be a marriage-like relationship).

I heard there is a similar rule in the UK or the USA?

So not marrying would be the solution but not having a serious relationship with women (at least for the folk where such a rule applies)

Why are feminists against marriage? Because of the tradition?

Aren't some of the biggest feminists we speak of on this forum married?

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Aren't some of the biggest feminists we speak of on this forum married?

It is rumoured that most married men are mangina's these days, so that would be no surprise!!

Given that conservatives in general and Christians in specific are the target of persecution from the OP, it is quite telling of the motivation the drips from the original post.

Feminism never ceases to amuse me, whether from a confused female or just a weak male.

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Given that conservatives in general and Christians in specific are the target of persecution from the OP, it is quite telling of the motivation the drips from the original post.

Feminism never ceases to amuse me, whether from a confused female or just a weak male.

Said the keyboard warrior to the professional martial artist.

And what is my motivation? Equality for all regardless of gender, orientation, or age? If that's what you were getting at, then you are correct.

I don't think anyone can point to any evidence of me being a feminist. I am an equalist.

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I don't think anyone can point to any evidence of me being a feminist. I am an equalist.

That is what the feminists use as their justification!

There is no equality in this world and never will be!

everything about the world is based on ensuring that equality is a fantasy that can never be realised!

A man is not equal to a woman.

A person with £1m is not equal to a person with £2..

Why do "equalists" make the claim that a homosexual relationship is the same as a hetrosexual one, yet on the other hand they usually claim that a man whose sexual orientation is towards young women slightly below the age arbitrarrily imposed by the feminazi state is a deviant?

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That is what the feminists use as their justification!

There is no equality in this world and never will be!

everything about the world is based on ensuring that equality is a fantasy that can never be realised!

A man is not equal to a woman.

A person with £1m is not equal to a person with £2..

Why do "equalists" make the claim that a homosexual relationship is the same as a hetrosexual one, yet on the other hand they usually claim that a man whose sexual orientation is towards young women slightly below the age arbitrarrily imposed by the feminazi state is a deviant?

I don't anymore. Physical maturity is all I really require to be ok with it. Frankly, when I was 14 I knew whether or not I wanted a penis in me, so a similarly aged girl should have no issues.

I realize true equality is impossible, people are different. But equality before the law is entirely within our grasp.

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I realize true equality is impossible, people are different. But equality before the law is entirely within our grasp.

You do realise of course that money is the great inequaliser, especially regards the law..

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I don't anymore. Physical maturity is all I really require to be ok with it. Frankly, when I was 14 I knew whether or not I wanted a penis in me, so a similarly aged girl should have no issues.

aye.. Id like to keep my kids away from penis's as much as possible! But with the state preventing parents from doing that, and totally failing to do the job themselves, criminalisation is not the answer, giving parents their natural roles back by letting them take charge is the answer..

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Why do "equalists" make the claim that a homosexual relationship is the same as a hetrosexual one

Oh oh oh....I have another one, why do people complain about marriage, call it a peonage contract men should stay away from, but once you mention "the gays" suddenly the peonage contract it is a holy contract with god. For once this has nothing to do with religion or bringing up children or long forgotten times. These days no matter what you believe in, you can get married. These days no matter if you have children or not, you can get marriage. What should the negative effects of a small part of a minority getting married be? That suddenly our whole youth turns gay? Won´t happen. That marriage looses its values? It already has no value these days, just look at the divorce numbers. It is a long time contract (I´d say 7 years) between two parties working together.

Last but not least who gives a damn? I mean seriously what does this have to do with men rights? Quite honestly every "those damn gays" just help us to be portrayed in a bad light and distracts us from more important topics.