Thread: Testosterone or feminisation
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28th-May-2007 #1
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Testosterone or feminisation
What is the cause of antisocial behaviour in males. Is it testosterone or feminization?
Well, a study of black Americans in 1967 found the main cause to be feminization. I believe the antisocial behaviour in black American males manifested itself earlier (hence the early study) as this group suffered from single parent households at a greater rate and at an earlier period than the rest of society.
Urie Bronfenbremer, " The Psychological Costs of Quality and equality in Education," Child Development 38 1967 (914A)
A growing body of research evidence points to the debilitating effect of personality development in black American children, particularly males, resulting from high frequency of father absence in black American families........ in seeking an explanation of this relationship, several of the major investigators have concluded that the exaggerated toughness, aggressiveness and cruelty of delinquent gangs reflect the desperate effort of males in lower-class culture to rebel against their early overprotective, feminizing environment and to find masculine identity.
Also research carried out by Patricia Cayo Sexton,
' The feminised Male (New York Random House, 1969) P 4. "Sirhan & Oswald, (the assassins of the Kennedy brothers) both reared under maternal shadow, grew to be quiet, controlled men and dutiful sons. Estranged from their fellows, fathers and normal male associates, they joined a rapidly growing breed -' the feminised male' - whose normal impulses are suppressed or mishapped by overexposure to feminine norms. Such assassins often pick as their targets the most virile males, signs of their own manly deprivation.
Now, setting aside any views that Shiran and Oswald were not acting alone, what do you think?
Is the evidence of the above research (albeit that this is old research, but I'm not sure that such research is politically correct these days) all around us today, in most western cultures?
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Do you think that it is right that men and boys adapt feminine traits to combat feminism, the evils of testosterone and our macho Rambo image? Will
we be better of worse for it?
Lets have your views.
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Damn... what a read!
I'm still tired, from having awoken at 4am... so I'm not going to try & get intellectual just yet, when I've
more I'll get back to this.
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28th-May-2007 #3
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Apart from the Kennedy brothers what other virile males are being assassinated?
They should be falling by the truckloads by now, with so many feminized males around.
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28th-May-2007 #4
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I have seen similar articles on the link between aggression and absent fathers in the home environment. There is an exceptionally strong case to be made for saying that increased youth crime and gang envolvement, are some of the repercussions that we can expect to see with increasing numbers of single parent households. In fact, statistics show that today's youth are increasingly violent just as single parent families are on the rise. (And just as feminized government officials and sociol-cialists tell us how irrelevent dads are)
In the past little Johnny would have been given a hunting rifle at the age of 12 or 14. He would never once have thought to walk into his school and make lunch meat out of the lunchroom. Now gun ownership is extremely limited, and yet today's little Johnny still manages to find one, or steal one, (his parents or more likely 'parent' having no idea), and he unloads his frustrations on his bloodied school mates.
Feminism kills: make no mistake.
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28th-May-2007 #5
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I personally beleive feminism is the root of these problems with the youth of today and even my own generation of thirty somthings. There is no dad around to show a kid where the boundries are. The at home role model is a poor example of attitude and impulse control. When a young boy is told that all men are scum [ albeit inderectly in most cases] and that women are to be treated as queens at all costs. What does that tell a young man? Or a young lady for that matter? I think for young men the price of trying to live up to this set of confusing priorities can turn them into either manginas or gangsters. Well thats how I see it anyway not very articulate or coherant I know but give me a break I just spent the weekend with 9 of my inlaws crammed into my house.LOL
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"no greater love hath a man than to lay down his life for his brother."
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28th-May-2007 #6
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One thing I have heard a few times when talking about gangs is the "acceptance." The young men are attracted to gangs because there are other men there and those men accept and look out for them. If the boy grows up all his life with a mother that belittles men (therefore him) and is very controlling, then the gangs is an escape. He would now find himself among those that seem to care for him and accept him. He can also get away from the controlling mother figure which fulfills his need to rebel.
A father in his life would combat this by several means. First it would give him a proper male identity as he has the role-model in front of him. Next the male would be able to cut down on the anti-male bull that would usually spew forth from the mother. Next the father would be able to offer the acceptance that the boy craves. Also, in most cases the father would be the figure to rebel against. Though fathers have a better chance of directing aggression and rebellion towards more productive ends.
This is of course just how I see it.
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28th-May-2007 #8
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Just looking through my local paper, I found that the bike path leading from my neighbourhood to the lake, was the backdrop for a teen swarming. It turns out a lone teen on a bike was making his way down to the lake for a party, when he was beset by a number of teens hiding in wake. He was hit about the head with beer bottles, beaten, kicked and robbed - left for dead beside his bike. Luckily he was able to draw himself to his feet and get to the hospital where he was treated for head injuries.
Kids killing other kids has been a growing phenomenon under feminism, but so too has this new gasta mentality of swarming. I was reading elsewhere on this forum of a swarming which took place in Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) where a man was attacked by a young man and three young women, (two of them young offenders) and was beaten with a golf club and then slit at the throat with a razor blade. The offenders were caught walking nonchalantly down the street following the incident.
Still, sociologists and feminists would tell us that all is well as the back end of the titanic raises to 90 degrees - we're just experiencing some mild turbulence. Maybe it's the movies, the t.v.. Maybe it's the video games and lack of daycare spaces.
Or maybe, just maybe, it's the feminism.
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29th-May-2007 #9
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Isn't there a predictable population distribution to these things? Someone brought up IQ spreads here recently, isn't it true that males tend to extremes in behaviour also? For instance there are more homeless and mentally ill men proportionally - doesn't it follow that females tend to behave closer to social norms in general?
Feminism or fatherlessness may exacerbate these predispositionsFeminism = Fear + Flattery
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30th-May-2007 #10Disaffected Guest
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I've never been particularly fond of the term "father absence" as a way of labelling the ongoing feminist destruction of nuclear families.
It covers up way too many economic, political, and ideological factors --- and ends up sounding like dad just got up one morning and drove away, abandoning his family.
First among the obviously disguised social pathologies would be the rampant criminalization of young black men. I believe America is No. 1 in locking up the highest percentage per capita of African-American men.
Second, if daddy dropped out of high school, can't get a paying legal job, but starts making babies at age 15 ... well, a whole lotta baby-daddies are not just absent --- they're effectively exiled from a mainstream path to an ordinary working-class life. (And they probably see that as a ticket to being a chump, anyway.)
If the lower end of the socio-economic spectrum is largely devoid of marriage at all, way up at the middle- and elite-class households what do we find?
Divorce rates exceeding 50%! (70% of which are initiated by women.)
This is a different kind of father absence; one involving large child support and vaginamony payments by dads legally exiled from their homes and children.
The term "father absence" is going to take on new meanings as the men's Marriage Strike expands rapidly and young men, once-divorced men, and financially privileged men "just say NO!" to the foolish non-contract of marriage and the dream-killing implications of making women pregnant.
And, the rumored male birth control pill is 3 -5 years approaching on the market horizon.
What happens in the gender wars when a man's sperm can no longer be extorted for 18 years of child support, and when a man no longer needs to rely upon a woman's "integrity" to prevent "unwanted" pregnancies?
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30th-May-2007 #11
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It is interesting to note that it is fairly prevalent, in the USA, for black American women/girls to exclude the fathers almost from conception. When they do meet the right man many of these women are suffering from what is called the 'Angry Black American Syndrome.'
This is epitomised in the film 'Tired Black Man.' A description of which is:-
American black women who grew up in fatherless homes, hearing their aunts and grandmothers saying 'black men are no good' - and hearing that opinion reinforced in the media - are now angry adult women. They grow up, deal with the wrong men, finally meet the right guy and don't know how to turn it off. They are used to fighting, it's the only way they know to have a relationship. So when a man is a good man, they think he's a punk.
A clip of the film is hear[ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6287091123202994051"]Tired Black Man[/ame]
Here, in the UK, Camila Batmanghelidjh, who runs a project for vulnerable children in London, gave evidence before a committee of MP's, in 2006, relating to black people and the Criminal Justice System, said:-
I think the mothers are hugely responsible because they've created a culture where they can get rid of the adolescent boy, they can get rid of the male partner, they can survive on their own
Often people think it's the males who are the culprits. The underestimate the level of rejection and cruelty from the females to the males.
The minute the adolescent boys begin to look slightly like an adult male the mother wants that young male banished from the house.
http://www.blink.org.uk/pdescription...=131808+grp=11
Click on women on the left side bar.
Is it any wonder that these youths think that their gang is their only family?
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Re: Testosterone or feminisation
we've got a local basket ball court near our house, and i was walking past today looking at a couple of young guys playing ball, thinking, maybe im wrong, perhaps men are happier when they're out and doing things.
the local council has put up quite a few similar courts around here and it does seem to be a really positive thing, local boys who might otherwise have been causing trouble, getting into drugs, guns, are instead playing football with each other and interacting in a positive way.
i find it really difficult to understand how a mother can reproduce the misandric rubbish that goes around these days to their own sons,
if a young boy does not have his mothers love and support, and there is no evident father, it must make a really difficult upbringing, he has to learn from his friends, who are probably like him.
i suppose its not alot of wonder they end up gettin into drugs and gun crime, they have nobody to tell them its wrong, nobody to care for them.
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when people feel that they are not loved or cared for, they need to find some form of sign from the outside world that they even exist, and alot of them fall down into the evil side of the world, where the nastiest, horriblest man is the one they all want to become.
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Not bad Fruit_cake. Not bad at all.
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31st-May-2007 #15
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I think FC is correct when mom is spouting misandric nonesense to their sons it must leave a void in them that they wish their parents would fill but lacking that they turn any thing that will give them a feeling of belonging eg gangs. And the same for girls who have a dad that does not have any respect at all for female family members and the girls have babies too young.
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