Teachers To Have More Power Than The Police
This is a discussion on Teachers To Have More Power Than The Police within the Chit chat (MAIN) anti misandry forums, part of the Introduction to anti misandry category; Source In England, assuming it is passed, teachers will be allowed to confiscate phones from children, but not only that, ...
- 27th-March-2011 #1
Teachers To Have More Power Than The Police
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In England, assuming it is passed, teachers will be allowed to confiscate phones from children, but not only that, they will also be allowed to look through the phone's content, not only that, they will be allowed to remove anything from the phone they feel like.
None of the parties are against this, so it'll likely be law come autumn time.
I personally am disgusted at this, even though I'm not English, I'm still British, and this makes my blood boil.
My belief is that once again, the government are using fear to control people and remove their rights, by claiming it's to fight cyber-bullying. By targeting children, it ensures they grow up and just expect the government to control them, it's sick.
I can speak on experience that there are some right nasty teachers, who just have it in for some pupils, and it is these pupils I am worried about.
What if there is a family photo on the phone, it's at the beach, there are bikinis, it's the only copy, and the teacher deems it perverted? This is just one example of many.
Anyway, I am aware that this is not related to misandry, but it is about the removal of basic rights of privacy, so if it's not appropriate and gets deleted, I won't cry over it.
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- 27th-March-2011 #2
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Well it may not be misandry, but the vast majority of teachers are female. If some feminazi teacher wants to neuter boys, here is another tool in the arsenal to prop the female up on the pedestal they crave and have boys as minions at their feet backed by yet another law to do so with impunity.
- 27th-March-2011 #3
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Every single new rule introduced in education that has something to do with regulating privacy and behavioral rights is misandric in nature. This is not an exaggeration. The people making this rule up were, no doubt, gender feiminist slanting females that are threatened by developing male students in their midst. They invisioned a boy texting a love interest with his very first use of dirty language in use or maybe just texting a friend about an unsanctioned ball game after school and decided that this all should be under their cognizance in the name of "safety" or "political correctness" and decided that letting little kids, especially male kids, having privacy was just too much so they decided to make the classroom into a totalitarian state.
No doubt, the new rules will be repealed on account of the screeches of the mothers and female students who have their familial business laid bare only after untold numbers of male students will have their entire academic careers marred because they dared keep a picture of their girlfriends on their phones.Do not ever suppose that a small group of people can never change the world. INDEED it is the only thing that ever has.
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- 27th-March-2011 #4
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And that's what school is really about, training children to submit to authority, legitimate or not. I remember having teachers who would not allow students use the restroom during their periods, unless you were a girl. They said we could have gone in the 4 minute break between classes, despite the school being 5 stories tall and it taking the full 4 minutes to go to your locker and get to class on time. I walked out on a couple of occasions and came back at the end of the period to collect my things. There is no legitimate reason a person should not be permitted 2 minutes to urinate, should they need to. Denying someone a natural bodily function, in my eyes, is a huge abuse of authority, but one the administration agreed with and told me to respect the teachers rules. Suffice to say, I dropped out once I saw what school was really about. I completed the eighth grade but attended no high school. I'm about 130 credits into college with a 4.0 GPA, so obviously not much learning goes on in high school if I'm able to excel without it.Schools minister Nick Gibb said it would send a "strong message" that a teacher's authority must be respected.
- 4th-April-2011 #5
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Of course, kids in school could leave their phones at home, or at least in their locker for the duration of the school day.
Heaven forbid that they mis the "latest" funny kitten video, or not get the essential "OMG I am so h8n 2 go 2 the dantz...", but somehow, the latest app (@ A mere ie. 0.25 per), that somehow ends up to an ASTONISHING amount of cash/time of the day in the hands of children, cannot be deemed time/classroom effort better spent for folks that are NOT expecting "someone else" to ALWAYS take care of their self-perceived "needs".
Now, are the telly companies running full page ads in the papers, giving away "free" phones that require all kinds of "back end" expenses to perpetuate the addiction?
Are the little darlings of their newest demographic expected to be able to read, and actually comprehend, consequences of "the fine print" of their offers?
How? By what age?
Boo hoo, teachers can take away the toys kids bring to the classroom, and examine their contents at whim.
OF COURSE there will be some that abuse their position.
I dare say a similarly abusive Policeman can, and WILL, "take away" more than that from "grownups" that fail to
be correct.
Exchanging a rubber nipple pacifier for an electronic one (at ANY age) doesn't do much toward weaning off of "someone else's" tits. Toys need to be put away in the toy box. TOOLS are appropriate for the workplace, and a new (ie.) pencil is waaaay less absolute-end-of-the-world "emotionally and socially crushing" to replace when it can no longer serve it's intended purpose.
PLEASE: Don't waste everyone else's time with "But...but... in an emergency..." or "We NEED to remain in instant contact because...". Nor with delusions that un-emancipated children are [I]entitled[I] to the same "rights" as, say, folks WITHOUT perpetual coddling exemptions to consequence by "special considerations".
- 4th-April-2011 #6
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This is what I think most people, myself definitely, are upset about. Confinscating for the duration of the day is generally fine, but there is no justification for searching the phone and, what you forgot to mention, delete whatever content they deem innapropriate without review.
- 6th-April-2011 #7
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Anything that can be "shared", passed around, transmitted to others, in and outside of school, etc. is up for grabs.
Consider (ie.)the current zero tolerance trends in "e-bullying" and "sexting"-which is considered possession/trafficking of child pornography, even if the "subject" is a willing participant. (These issues may be different in Canada)
The deletion, without review, bit is indeed questionable, it MAY be a preferable option to "Immediate submission to the school resource officer", which is a full fledged police officer in the US. There are also legal obligations
for SOME states teachers (doctors/hairstylists/pharmacy clerks/baby sitters/psychologists/psychiatrists etc. etc.) to NOT use such judgment, and report any "suspicious behavior", under penalty of law, with fines, jail, loss of license/certification to practice.
Again, if the e-communication unit (any variation of phone/web access/etc.) isn't available for confiscation, then
problem, along with a higher level of confidentiality, solved.
Further, and this applies to ANYONE, if you don't want it "shared" at the will of any other party, don't record it.
Regardless of what many THINK "the law" (or administrators of public and private entities) may or may not do,
reality holds an ugly awakening for the "NO FAIR" defense, and the court of public opinion has ZERO protections against "I didn't MEAN to write/post that".
Anyone ever "forget" their laptop in a taxi, resume (or worse)in the company copier, PDA on the bar, or phone at the hotel?
BAM! Instant public domain. Too bad. So sad.
Did I mention that during school, and especially during class, are inappropriate places to even HAVE E-toys?
Of course, these social reality "rules" existed waaaaaay before the advent of E-toys, the delusional anonymity of telephones, and the sometimes fatal idea that three people can "share" a potentially profitable secret.
Simply consider "common" (or horse) sense kids. This is training, and a test, for alleged grownuppityhoodness. You'll REALLY hate the consequences for bad behavior then. Waaaay worse than having to reprogram your E-toy.
(which is, like, totally easy if you actually WERE, like, soooooo awesomely clever)
Unless, of course, you're a member of a "special exceptions" class of the citizenry, by accident of birth.
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