Tales from the La La Land part 9876543 - A Feminist's pledge

Rebadow · #1 27th-February-2007

Found here.

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A Feminist's Pledge:

We will never, ever say you're whining simply because you are voicing concerns. We will not silence or censor you with humiliation, belittlement or aggression. We will listen to you respectfully and respond with compassion. Repressing feelings, retaliating or being defensive will not help us progress. Communication and respect will.

Roles should be based on interests, not chromosomes. There will be no gender-limitations placed on human potential.

We will call a truce and find methods to resolve our conflicts peacefully. Violent crimes do not belong in our homes, nor do they belong in our schools or communities.

If rapists or serial killers or school shootings targeted men, we promise to treat it as misandry. We will try to change the culture of misandry that would create such circumstances.

If the media gave too much attention to all the missing white men in the country, we promise to tackle the problem with compassion and not contempt. We promise to provide equal coverage to missing black men as to missing white men.

We will make porn that respects men and human sexuality. We would never subject you to degrading actions. We will refuse to incorporate violence, drug use or unprotected sex for commercial profit over humane concerns.

We will not subject you to "show us your d---" slogans for cheap beads or corporate profits. We will not allow you to get intoxicated before doing something you would later regret or before signing a legal consent form. We will respect your bodies and your rights. We don't send cameras to nude beaches, nor should we do so to Spring Break events.

We will not call you names that are not only demeaning to you as an individual but also degrading to sexuality and the human body. We will not refer to your body by their parts alone: (gratuitous) d & b.

We will not use a myriad of negative epitaphs in music or media to refer to you. In fact, I don't believe so many such epitaphs exist for men, so we would be limited already.

We will not call women boyish or manly to represent the harshest criticism we can muster. We won't say women throw a ball "boyishly" to insult them. We won't call politicians "boyish" to sling mud. Both feminine and masculine traits will be respected. If men have some feminine traits and women have some masculine traits, that's okay. Gender roles that divide traits into two divisions are far too limiting and unimaginative anyway.

We will not make laws that affect your medical care and rights to govern your own body. We will cover your prescriptions in health insurance and treat you with respect when you come to the pharmacy to fill your prescriptions. We will not turn you away or humiliate you.

We will include you in medical research to see if our biological differences result in different health outcomes, just like researchers found that males and females suffer differently in heart attacks.

We won't consider you freakish for being single or childless. Your choices will be respected. We can't all be married with 2.2 children, a house and a dog.

We will ask that you take more responsibility for reproductive choices. You will ask if our health insurance plans cover the pill, and be willing to get a vasectomy -- so much easier and cheaper than a tubal ligation. You will also be willing to accompany us on an abortion, if needed. Just going to a family planning clinic can be dangerous.

We will not blame you for causing divorce, gaining profits from divorce, marrying for money, being a bad single parent, or smoking around children or pregnant women. We must find the roots of problems and work on potential solutions together.

We will not have scientists, educators or philosophers find reasons for your supposed inferiority. We will not abuse our public role to insult you like Socrates, Freud, John Belushi, Bobby Riggs, Lawrence Summers, et al have done. We will seek answers, not justifications.

We won't spend a fortune on marketing that targets you and then turn around and call you materialistic. We won't blame you for being consumers because you take on the majority of shopping responsibilities. And we won't use insulting, derogatory ads that, in fact, target you as the buyer.

We will represent you and give you a voice in all forms of media -- newspapers, radio and TV. We will include you in history and represent you fairly in textbooks and other written material. We won't deny or belittle your contributions.

We will name our streets, parks, and town squares after both men and women. We will erect statues and monuments that represent both sexes fairly.

We will hire you in elected offices because we value your contribution and seek to represent all the diverse views of society, not because were ready.

In all aspects of society, men and women will be represented and treated fairly. We cannot promise a utopia, but it will be a better, more harmonious and balanced society.

We will hold each other responsible for our actions and our behaviors. If one gender becomes too powerful or exploitative, we will, like a system of checks and balances, hold each other accountable.

We will work together cooperatively for peaceful solutions and resolutions. We will formulate a shared idea of values and human dignity.

In this egalitarian partnership, we will work together in our homes, communities, and countries. This I pledge as a feminist working towards equality and justice for all.

Next time we'll tell you why Santa really exists. So stay tuned for more! Tales from the La La Land!

Fred X · #2 1st-March-2007

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Dr David Banner · #3 1st-March-2007

sounds very earnest, very subjective, very hysterical
Sounds like it was written after one reefer too many at a 60's sit in.
Feminist pledge?
They always do the opposite of what they say.Freds laughter says it all
they now parody themselves with every utterance......

bola · #4 1st-March-2007

We will, however, draw up a libelous list of one-sided and largely exaggerated complaints in a sanctimonious tone, for maximal manipulative effect.

taype · #5 1st-March-2007

Sounds like it was written after one reefer too many at a 60's sit in.

Lol that was the vibe I got.

Luckily, through my numerous prior conversations with stoners, I think Ive acquired the ability to decipher whats being said here:

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Roles should be based on interests, not chromosomes. There will be no gender-limitations placed on human potential.

Translation:

We will ban the word sex with regard to differentiating between men and women, as this implies that roles may be in part biologically, and not wholly socially determined. We will still enforce what WE determine to de acceptable roles for each gender. We will continue to belittle housewives, and all those women who chose motherhood over a career. We will continue to produce textbooks for schools that show the (optional) father figure attending to the ironing whilst the mother changes a light bulb, because this after all, is the way things should be.

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We will not use a myriad of negative epitaphs in music or media to refer to you. In fact, I don't believe so many such epitaphs exist for men, so we would be limited already.

Translation:

We will continue to promote and fund the feminist controlled media that advocates the ideal of the single, independent woman who utterly abhors the notion of family. We will ban any form of media that portrays women in a negative light, or shows women to be responsible for their own actions.

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We will not blame you for causing divorce, gaining profits from divorce, marrying for money, being a bad single parent, or smoking around children or pregnant women. We must find the roots of problems and work on potential solutions together.

Translation:

You (men) WILL continue to tolerate womens legally enshrined ability to gain financially from divorce. We will fail to adjust the laws over child custody or the division of property following divorce, so that women still benefit on the whole, and we will justify this by saying that you have exactly the same right to do so, when of course you dont. We will encourage divorce at all costs, because our exhaustive studies have shown that the most stable, productive societies are those in which families are financially encouraged to break up, and we will give them all the legal capacity to do so. We will continue to promote the myth that fathers and men in general pose a risk to children, and must therefore ensure contact between them is kept to a bare minimum. We will of course continue to hide the facts over the true nature of child abuse.

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We will hold each other responsible for our actions and our behaviors. If one gender becomes too powerful or exploitative, we will, like a system of checks and balances, hold each other accountable.

If, as a result of our female centred promotion policies, women begin to dominate economically or politically, we will claim that this is the manifestation of our inherent superiority. What, we said that we wouldnt use scientists to prove how flawed or genetically inferior men are? No, theres no record of us saying anything of that nature. Further, when questioned on this, we will claim that a lack of female participation in politics and other high powered jobs in the past now justifies our dominance, and men should in no way feel aggrieved by the fact that positive discrimination bars them from certain occupations because they dont have a vagina.

Finally, if society begins to collapse under the strain of the unsustainable demographic situation we have engineered, we will blame men through shaming their inability or unwillingness to commit. Remember: We have made the bed, YOU must now lie in it.

Timocrat · #6 1st-March-2007

Reads like a very bad French ( or mainland European) constitution. Maybe they can find a Mangina to go over it and give it a more scientific feel to it? Manginas know how to sound warm and fuzzy with a logical flare, and then become cynical at the drop of a hat? Speaking of which...

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We will, however, draw up a libelous list of one-sided and largely exaggerated complaints in a sanctimonious tone, for maximal manipulative effect.-BOLA

I think someone's bitter! Does big Bola need a hug? Let's put on our happy faces! You really must stop projecting you cynicism on to others, if you really want to keep your brand of "feminism is our friend" in play. Let's say it together, "I'm smart enough, I'm strong enough and dog gone it people like me." We need some good vibes people! Bola doesn't feel we are sending out positive energy. Let's hold hands (virtually), and eat some tofu ( just a bit), drink some soya milk (I need a beer) and sing, sing , sing coom-bye-ya ma lord, coom bye ya.....

Louder so Bolas everywhere can hear our happy feet and general good will to all feminists everywhere! Coom by ya ma lord, coom by yaaaaaaaaaaaaaah aaaaa aaa

Dr David Banner · #7 1st-March-2007

Timo - I think you may have misunderstood Bola!!!
I took Bola's statement to be a description of the feminist diatribe above not any aspersion on our statements.
The Bola I remember - and welcome back Bola- was about as anti feminist as you can get!
MISUNDERSTANDINGS - I have seen them in my own life reek havoc!
I have myself been misunderstood in my directness of speech on occassions as hostile.
Here is one between men.What then gents is like between MEN and WOMEN.....Shakespeare wrote plays about it....LOL!

Lets back lads to the subject -its relevant because feminism uses touchy feely prose like this to mask its malice.We are for everyone men included- yeah pigs 'll fly.

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In this egalitarian partnership, we will work together in our homes, communities, and countries. This I pledge as a feminist working towards equality and justice for all.

feminist pledger
Thats what stalin said, love

Yan Yan · #8 1st-March-2007

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We will, however, draw up a libelous list of one-sided and largely exaggerated complaints in a sanctimonious tone, for maximal manipulative effect.

Timo, That's Bola doing parody of feminist automaton.

Yeah Bola, welcome back! Been walkabout??? Mt Athos by any chance? - see thread :-)
I just got back after two months of enforced absence and wondered where you were.
The World Turns!

Marx · #9 1st-March-2007

Mind you, I had to read the misunderstood post twice, myself. Anyway, perhaps it's occasions such as this that could make use of the [sarc]tag ? Thanks for clearing it up though, Brad & Yan Yan.

Timocrat · #10 2nd-March-2007

Dear Brad,
If your right, then my attempt at a joke was misdirected. Still, it can go out to all those touchy-feely types out there who can feel all warm inside that we MRAs know all about being positive in a tidal wave off oppression. And in addition know how to turn the other cheek( I've turn all 4 cheeks to be nice, and my ass has been kicked enough by this social dysfunction). I'm all fight until they say uncle!